For the love of god give denmark german culture

[unmerged(9191)]

Seriously now. I now its been talked about before but in my current GC its really bugging me.

And if Sweden gets Ugric culture....
And Austria gets czech

It really isn't fair for Denmark to be handicapped. Its one way to stop the great blue blob on the map They get *1* shielded province (they dont start with or inherit)...thats german. One of the few places for it to expand is into germany. It will stop Sweden from growing.... (thus helping russia)

They did not mis-treat germans in any way shape or form (unlike Austria with the (czechs).


Im sure it wont get done...but it'd be nice.

 

[Mad King James]

Denmark shouldn't have German, rather Sweden should LOSE Ugric and Austria should never have Czech.

 

[JohnMK]

Sadly even though I'd love to see something done, the Eu2 engine is just a tad bit too extreme to model this gracefully. Giving them German culture would well . . . go a bit too far. Maybe a new rule that CB provinces give you -1 manpower instead of -2 if wrong culture. That might be interesting. Hmmm but then that would also give Spain/Austria/France/England/whoever a tad bit much manpower from the Netherlands when the Dutch in fact would tolerate no foreign rule. I don't think there's a graceful way to help the Danes.

But Johan's smart maybe he can figure something out?

 

[Medicine Man]

And while we're on the topic, perhaps Sweden should *not* gain baltic culture either.

 

[JohnMK]

On the scale of importance though, that's pretty low. German manpower is like 20x baltic.

 

[unmerged(9563)]

Yeah, that blue blob needs to be neutered, but since we all know nothing is going to be done to hurt Sweeden, we must make Denmark and Russia stronger!

The only problem with that is that Denmark and Russia would expand into places not Sweeden.

 

[unmerged(15381)]

The problem is, Indiscriminate giving of the German culture could allow them to eat all of N. Germany, which was Ahistoric.

They should have to *choose* it, and get a penalty for it, for example "Option A: the Danish Kingdom is Scandinavian Only". revoltrisk in holstein, bremen, vorpommern, mecklenburg, oldenburg +3 for 24 months and they get a refinery.

Option B: the Danish Kingdom should include Germans as Equals. revoltrisk in all of norway goes up 6 for 30 months, -2 stability, but Danes get German culture.

i know there will be no new events but people could do it customized, or it could (yeah right) get put in eu3

 

[unmerged(4868)]

Originally posted by Mad King James
Denmark shouldn't have German, rather Sweden should LOSE Ugric and Austria should never have Czech.

I agree completely with MJK!!

 

[Arilou]

Actually Sweden should definately NOT lose ugric culture. It would be terribly ahistorical.

The event to gain baltic culture is stupid though, and should be removed, but Ugric? PLEASE. Either Sweden keeps ugric or all of modern-day Finland converts to Scandinavian...

The baltic culture thingie should be removed though.

 

[Gerle]

Dammit Tigre it's not Sweeden! Sweden, get it, Sweden?

Originally posted by KwangTiger
Yeah, that blue blob needs to be neutered, but since we all know nothing is going to be done to hurt Sweeden, we must make Denmark and Russia stronger!

The only problem with that is that Denmark and Russia would expand into places not Sweeden.

 

[swilhelm73]

Well, someone here must be knowledgable about Danish history...

What parts of Germany did they rule, and what were their relations to those holdings?

 

[Arilou]

They ruled Holstein and parts of Oldenburg (as counts of the respective lands) the danish dynasty was Oldenburg in origin.

 

[N Katsyev]

Not to mention a couple North German ports (and baltic) as well as for a time Bremen and Vorpommern (in Eu2 terms). Not to mention of course Holstein. However I know very little detailed facts about it... hence my not starting a "Denmark a bit too underpowered" thread.

 

[unmerged(3420)]

For much of Danish history in this period the language of command in the Danish Army was German. That's because so much of the rank and file (and officers, too) were recruited either in the German-speaking lands of the Danish Crown, or were mercenaries recruited from other Lutheran German territories.

And the Navy was heavily Norwegian. I think the tax-collectors were mostly Danish, though .

 

[Chengar Qordath]

I don't think just taking away Sweden's Ugric culture would be enough. As Novogorod I took all of Finland away from Sweden in the 1450's, and it is still eating Denamark up...

 

[kurtbrian]

Originally posted by Chengar Qordath
I don't think just taking away Sweden's Ugric culture would be enough. As Novogorod I took all of Finland away from Sweden in the 1450's, and it is still eating Denamark up...

Problem is, anybody can eat up Denmark as its simply to weak...

The navy not being equally important to its survival as it was in real life

 

[unmerged(8351)]

i am all for this change but somehow i get the sneaking suspicsion that it just is not going to happen...

 

[swilhelm73]

Originally posted by Becephalus
i am all for this change but somehow i get the sneaking suspicsion that it just is not going to happen...

Well, it is easy to give Denmark german culture if you want...

 

[DPS]

Don't see how giving Denmark German culture will slow down Sweden; if anything, I'd expect it to speed up their expansion, because they'd gain some extra German provinces when the attack Denmark.

 

[unmerged(8351)]

well obviously i can change whatever i want swilhelm but like most people I am expressing an opinion about how the game could be changed officially since i think this would be an improvement. They could sell the game with just an engine every nation having no events or cultures or anything and we could all modify to our hearts desire but for obvious reasons that is not what people want the forums are generally, and this thread is specifically, about making changes which some think would improve the game and i was simply expressing my opinion as such.

Sorry to jump on you but I am so sick of seing people say so change the files yourself to people, this is obviously warranted when someone is talking about being able to do outrageous things or a specialty scenario and such, but surely a large function of a forum like this is to collectively discuss things that could be changed to make a game better

have a good day