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If a "new Cold War" drives military technology, I can visualize insane situations with Vought being bought by Hawker, A-7 Corsair 2 and F-8 Crusaders on full-sized British carriers!!! :eek:
 

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trekaddict - ;)

Porkman - Mayhap the Corsair MK III will have the Bristol engine. I'm glad I'm not the only writAAR who likes to, how shal we say, cross-pollenate tech around the globe. :D

Vann the Red - You think? I mean, c'mon, the P-51 went from drawing board to flight in what, 116 days? I can see Vought doing something similar with a large cash infusion and group of very eager Royal Navy officers prowling around the company headquarters. As for the P-47... I know the Jug was a good aircraft but I've never been able to fall in love with that monster.

Ciryandor - Mayhap not A-7s but I can see F-8 Crusaders... oh, wait... :eek:o you didn't read that, eh?
 

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trekaddict - ;)

Porkman - Mayhap the Corsair MK III will have the Bristol engine. I'm glad I'm not the only writAAR who likes to, how shal we say, cross-pollenate tech around the globe. :D

I see I have to deal with those soon. Meh. Wanted to do that anyway.
 

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Ciryandor - Mayhap not A-7s but I can see F-8 Crusaders... oh, wait... :eek:o you didn't read that, eh?

No Sir, the Official Secrets Act has blinded me to that statement. ;) :cool:

I wonder if they'll have VTOL aircraft too.:eek:
 
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Very elegant solution to a game mechanic issue Draco!

That said, when defense contractors are purchased, is there not some sort of vetting process that would have to be completed by the US government anyways? And WRT the designs, if those were developed with funding from the US government is there any proprietary concerns even if no contracts were given to finish the work?

I am not sure of what protectionist measures were in place at the time with respect to foreign ownership in the US at that time...
 

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I'll second this. Americans built better fighters but the British built better engines. Put them together and it's a match made in heaven.

Is it as simple as swapping out engines?
 

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Is it as simple as swapping out engines?
Sometime yes, sometimes no. Depends how 'tightly' the aircraft is designed around it's engine and how many differences there are between the old engine and the new one. Putting a Merlin into a P-51 was fairly straightforward, a few tweaks to the mounting were enough (though I think they did a minor re-design for the production Merlin engined ones).

As the Centaurus and R-2800 are fairly similar size and fairly similar weight I shouldn't think it's too tricky. The extra weight of the Bristol should be more than made up for by the extra power, it's the sensible engine choice.
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Sometime yes, sometimes no. Depends how 'tightly' the aircraft is designed around it's engine and how many differences there are between the old engine and the new one. Putting a Merlin into a P-51 was fairly straightforward, a few tweaks to the mounting were enough (though I think they did a minor re-design for the production Merlin engined ones).

As the Centaurus and R-2800 are fairly similar size and fairly similar weight I shouldn't think it's too tricky. The extra weight of the Bristol should be more than made up for by the extra power, it's the sensible engine choice.
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So what about my idea for Bristol Hercules Engined Sunderlands and Dakotas?
 

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So what about my idea for Bristol Hercules Engined Sunderlands and Dakotas?
On the Dakota you may have problems, the Hercules is shorter, wider and about 50% heavier. The mountings would have to be completely re-done, plus the airframe may need strengthening to take the extra power.

Ditto for the Sunderland, the Twin Wasp could be fairly easily swapped in as it was similar to the existing Pegasus. The Hercules was too big without a major re-design (OTL the Hercules engined Sunderland turned into a completely different aircraft that only emerged post-war)

The British solution is make the Taurus work, it would have been the 'in-between' engine to bridge the gap and provide the extra power. Failing that just bite the bullet and re-design for the larger Hercules.
 

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On the Dakota you may have problems, the Hercules is shorter, wider and about 50% heavier. The mountings would have to be completely re-done, plus the airframe may need strengthening to take the extra power.

Ditto for the Sunderland, the Twin Wasp could be fairly easily swapped in as it was similar to the existing Pegasus. The Hercules was too big without a major re-design (OTL the Hercules engined Sunderland turned into a completely different aircraft that only emerged post-war)

The British solution is make the Taurus work, it would have been the 'in-between' engine to bridge the gap and provide the extra power. Failing that just bite the bullet and re-design for the larger Hercules.

Righto. Some edits are needed, but that makes sense. Thanks.
 

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New techs are always welcome news, and with those new planes I think the RN will become even stronger and then the IJN will soon learn the hard way not to be aggressive against the Empire!

Nice to see an update Draco, hope we shall soon see more. Maybe it is time for the next adventure of one of the Drake brothers soon? It has been a while since we had any news about our heroes now…
 

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No, it was more the idea of Vought being sold to a British corporation and building aircraft for them in the US during an isolationist period. Anything that gets those lovely wings into the war photos is a good thing.

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New techs are always welcome news, and with those new planes I think the RN will become even stronger and then the IJN will soon learn the hard way not to be aggressive against the Empire!

Nice to see an update Draco, hope we shall soon see more. Maybe it is time for the next adventure of one of the Drake brothers soon? It has been a while since we had any news about our heroes now…


Maybe. depends how many corsairs will fit on a British Armoured carrier. It's not exactly a small aircraft, even with folding wings.

Of course you could use escort carrioers as exclusive fighter bases and leave Torp and Dive bombers to the Indomitable's.

later, caff
 

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Nice update.

I two however would like to see the drake brothers again? Perhaps a mission to Japan to steal information. Although maybe it can go better than that unfortunate incident in Geremany with the SS (I can't even remember who is the milatry Drake and who is the spy, but I think Malcom is the name of the spy, and George might be the para).

But yeah, a Drake brother in the far east would be nice.
 

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Couldn't help it guys, the Corsair is one of my four favorite aircraft of WW2 (the others being Hawker's Typhoon/Tempest, Supermarine's Spitfire and North American's P-51 Mustang). It just had to show up and since in OTL the FAA flew Corsairs, it actually works out, eh? ;)

A fair enough statement. As long as I get to see a Mosquito raid and a couple of bouncing bombs, I won't be complaining. Oh, and I'm coming to take a strange fancy to the Typhoons, too...

Hint hint :D
 

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Baa Baa Black Sheep. :) One of the best shows ever!

Love those Corsairs!
 

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