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El Pip

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You can accuse the King of many things, lack of ambition isn't one of them though. Not just for reuniting the Empire, although that's big in itself, but overturning the entire democratic process of the UK. :eek:

An intriguing update Draco, I await with curiosity what will happen next.
 

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Very interesting. I have to say, though, that although I know pretty much nothing about the British constitution or laws regarding enactment of new laws it does seem impossible to do this politically. Does the King expect to browbeat his will through Parliament? Won't their be a public cry of outrage over an such an apparent attempt at strongly reducing democracy? Was it true that most Dominions really preferred to be more closely tied politically to the Empire?

Superbly written!
 

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LewsTherin said:
Very interesting. I have to say, though, that although I know pretty much nothing about the British constitution or laws regarding enactment of new laws it does seem impossible to do this politically. Does the King expect to browbeat his will through Parliament? Won't their be a public cry of outrage over an such an apparent attempt at strongly reducing democracy? Was it true that most Dominions really preferred to be more closely tied politically to the Empire?

Superbly written!
Maybe their PMs had visits of the same type De Valera had? :eek:
 

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I can only imagine what kinda response this is gonna get! :)
from Parliment, “Hell Yes!

from me, “Hell Yes!” :D

awesome!

even so, Maximilliano said it best! :cool:
 
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This is simply out of this world. Stalin, Hitler take a hike. The real Power monger sits in London!!!!

I do wonder why all these leaders are willing to surrender their authority to the King.
 

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Lucidor said:
Maybe their PMs had visits of the same type De Valera had? :eek:


That was my thought as well! I have a hard time imagining that they would just hand over independence out of their own free will, but who knows...
 

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My oh my, have I created a group of suspicious minded readAARS!! :D

Vann - Dissent, what dissent? The King is well loved by just about everyone within the Empire.... well, except for the Communists, the Socialists, the Pacifists...

Maximilliano - I have always agreed, now let's just hope that it works, eh?

El Pip - hey now, George isnt' over turning the democratic process at all. George as head of state and executive power introduced a bill to Parliament and simply asked that they vote on the bill to pass it into an offical Act. I don't see how putting a time constraint on the debate could be considered an over turning of the democratic process. Now for ambition... I don't see George as being ambitious, I see him as driven to return the British Empire to the glory it had at the beginning of the 19th Century with the Crown having the power it had at the beginning of the 18th Century - luckily for him, the subjects of the Empire like the ideas as much as he does! :)

LewsTherin - See above about the democratic process issue. As for the feeligs of the Dominions, the quote from the N.Z. PM ("where she goes we go") is a historic quote... as for how strong that feeling was in RL I dunno, but in this life, well, as you can see, the Dominion's PMs support the move (de Valera doesn't count, by the by! :D )

Lucidor & LewsTherin - nope, only de Valera had a visit from our S.O.E. lads. If you recall, this plan had been mentioned in passing by Edward back around chapter 3 or 4 or so with the Dominions supporting the idea.

lifeless & AOK. 11 - Welcome aboard, greetings and hope you enjoy the ride!

Ghostwriter - why thank you sir. More will be forthcoming soon.

prussiablue & LewsTherin - well remember, the PM's aren't really losing independence as they all technically reported to the King to begin with. Also, they still have their same jobs, just the name has been changed. Additionally, with the formation of the Imperial Parliament, direct representation for the Dominions will be made direct to the king, so again, no freedoms are being lost, eh? All in all its a win-win situation, don't you think?
 

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Impressive update Draco, very impressive. This is really a cool update, shall be interesting to see how Parliament will react to it. I sure hope they vote yes, that would be great :D

Looking forward to see what happens next.
 

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If it passes Britain will have a true Empire again, not to mention the ic and mp to make Germany shake in its jackboots ;) . Will you mod your cores to reflect the the new all-embracing nature of the Empire?
 

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Superbly done!

Though I recommend you mod the minister files a bit: George VI is a Benevolent Gentleman no longer!
 

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Lord E - thanks! You will soon see the reaction.

VILenin - well, that is the idea, isn't it?

Passivocalia - what makes you think that?
 

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VILenin said:
If it passes Britain will have a true Empire again, not to mention the ic and mp to make Germany shake in its jackboots ;) . Will you mod your cores to reflect the the new all-embracing nature of the Empire?
Draco Rexus said:
VILenin - well, that is the idea, isn't it?
LOL! ! ! that 'addcore' command is awesome! it gives full ic, resources (including manpower), and zero revolt risk! [did i miss anything?] :cool:

excellent! ! ! awesome! ! ! :D
 

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Draco Rexus said:
El Pip - hey now, George isnt' over turning the democratic process at all. George as head of state and executive power introduced a bill to Parliament and simply asked that they vote on the bill to pass it into an offical Act. I don't see how putting a time constraint on the debate could be considered an over turning of the democratic process. Now for ambition... I don't see George as being ambitious, I see him as driven to return the British Empire to the glory it had at the beginning of the 19th Century with the Crown having the power it had at the beginning of the 18th Century - luckily for him, the subjects of the Empire like the ideas as much as he does! :)

LewsTherin - See above about the democratic process issue. As for the feeligs of the Dominions, the quote from the N.Z. PM ("where she goes we go") is a historic quote... as for how strong that feeling was in RL I dunno, but in this life, well, as you can see, the Dominion's PMs support the move (de Valera doesn't count, by the by! :D )

prussiablue & LewsTherin - well remember, the PM's aren't really losing independence as they all technically reported to the King to begin with. Also, they still have their same jobs, just the name has been changed. Additionally, with the formation of the Imperial Parliament, direct representation for the Dominions will be made direct to the king, so again, no freedoms are being lost, eh? All in all its a win-win situation, don't you think?

It's just that the King is very rapidly assuming personal executive power. I am a bit surprised that his executives in the Privy Council don't try to counter him, expect of course for Mosley. I guess, the King is formulating policies with which they largely agree so they see no need to try to stop him. Overall, it just seems to me that the King's process of acquiring power has been to easy.
 

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Lews- I agree with you that the Crown has retaken a lot of its power seemingly far to easily, but you have to recall that with the Red scare and stacking the Government with strong Royalists, as well as having the Crown come up with policies that the majority of Government as well as subjects aree with, it made it easier for the Crown to reach that goal. Add with it the sympathy the Royals received after the Red Hammer affair, and you see how things just "naturally" progressed. Also remember, that the powers that the Crown is retaking are powers that have been relagated to Parliament by lack of will by previous monarchs and nowhere in the English constitution have these powers been "legally" taken away by the people.

Luckily for the Crown's subjects, Edward before him and now George are truly noble and enlightened kings who were/are striving for only what is best for their subjects rather than what is best for themselves (i.e. some certain French Kings of the 18th Century that we could name but won't and some certain "charismatic"/cult of personality leaders of Central and Eastern Europe with whom the British Crown has had isssues with :D ).

Ghostwriter - :D :D
 

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Draco Rexus said:
Luckily for the Crown's subjects, Edward before him and now George are truly noble and enlightened kings who were/are striving for only what is best for their subjects rather than what is best for themselves (i.e. some certain French Kings of the 18th Century that we could name but won't and some certain "charismatic"/cult of personality leaders of Central and Eastern Europe with whom the British Crown has had isssues with :D ).
Oh, of course! And I'm sure none of the afore-mentioned leaders disingenuously expressed similiar sentiments about serving the people. :rolleyes:
 

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:eek:o

Very true, but in this particular case, it is true of George VI and not so of the aforementioned individuals. :D
 

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'Tis true, 'tis true. However, as things pan out, we will see how George ain't really all that bad of a guy. (I think :p )

In any event, I should have the next post coming up here in the next couple of hours... unless my boss gives me another project to complete before the end of the business day. :mad: :eek: :( :mad: