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By the way guys, do we have comfirmation this game is not "Sim Town" like the last SimCity game? That was the main reason I didn't like that one, the rest was all fine. If its SimTown here all over again, no matter the quality am not buying.

Can you guys point me where its confirmed its not SimTown (aka I can make huge city size cities) and therefore make me pre-order this babe?

The maps are 9 times the size of simcity, with the possibility to go 36 times the size if your hardware can handle it.

I think you start of with a simcity size map then unlock around it as your city grows.
 

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The pre-order website doesn't let me see that. Can you maybe point me somewhere? That sounds good

How big will the maps be?

The map consists of tiles. The maximum city size is 9 map tiles, one map tile is 2km x 2km. Players start with the first one and then unlock more land for their city. Players get to choose the tiles from 25 tiles on the map. The area is all seamless so pretty huge cities can be developed.

The cities can be 36 square km, and not necessarily in a square. However there is an option to uncouple the limitation and go bigger, dependant on the player’s hardware.

http://www.skylinescity.com/cities-skylines-faq/
 

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I refused to pre-order but then someone gifted me a preorder for my birthday (which was today) completely out of the blue so do I get to rant?

Also, you're being foolish. It's not that "computers can't run simcity" that was a bunch of lies that maxis told to justify their always-on DRM. Different companies use different engines that work differently. I also don't know that there were any real problems with performance for simcity were there? They just made small cities. CO have repeatedly stated that cities have been limited to 1 million so that they work on the recommended spec PCs. If it won't run on even the most badass PCs, why would they say that? Why not say "you can have over 9000million people"?
 

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By the way guys, do we have comfirmation this game is not "Sim Town" like the last SimCity game? That was the main reason I didn't like that one, the rest was all fine. If its SimTown here all over again, no matter the quality am not buying.

Can you guys point me where its confirmed its not SimTown (aka I can make huge city size cities) and therefore make me pre-order this babe?

so workers/employees not traveling to other cities didnt bother you? shoppers sometimes traveling? useless wonders?? or how about the taxi mob bug?? technically elementary/highschools weren't needed if you had higher education...other services that stopped working, such as a recycling truck leaving town, never to return because its stuck in wtf land so the recycling center stopped working? what about useless transportation options? etc etc etc etc, there are too many to list.

if your only problem was the map size, idk what to say.
 

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so workers/employees not traveling to other cities didnt bother you? shoppers sometimes traveling? useless wonders?? or how about the taxi mob bug?? technically elementary/highschools weren't needed if you had higher education...other services that stopped working, such as a recycling truck leaving town, never to return because its stuck in wtf land so the recycling center stopped working? what about useless transportation options? etc etc etc etc, there are too many to list.

if your only problem was the map size, idk what to say.
yeah all that too
 

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I refused to pre-order but then someone gifted me a preorder for my birthday (which was today) completely out of the blue so do I get to rant?

Also, you're being foolish. It's not that "computers can't run simcity" that was a bunch of lies that maxis told to justify their always-on DRM. Different companies use different engines that work differently. I also don't know that there were any real problems with performance for simcity were there? They just made small cities. CO have repeatedly stated that cities have been limited to 1 million so that they work on the recommended spec PCs. If it won't run on even the most badass PCs, why would they say that? Why not say "you can have over 9000million people"?

technically steam is an always on drm, its just not always online since you can go into offline mode.
 

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technically steam is an always on drm, its just not always online since you can go into offline mode.
Well, it's actually different in that regard. "always on DRM" is DRM that authenticates your game every single time you play, thus always needing an internet connection. Steam doesn't do that, it's just regular DRM that generally requires you to be online as a consequence of it's business model but games are tied to accounts and you can be offline as much as you want. Hell, you can even launch pirated games through steam afaik (using the "add game" button), it just won't be "on steam" and receiving updates and such. It'll be a regular non-steam game launched through steam. Anyway its not the same thing by a long shot. It's DRM, but it's not always-on DRM built into the game code itself, causing a giant pain in the ass for no reason whatsoever. And, more importantly, they don't say "your computers can't run steam, our servers need to process it so that's why we made sure you have to be always online". Plus they're actually good at it (now).
 

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I find steam a bit more of a pain in the ass as a server admin with many many game servers. Just because if I running windows base game and not using steam cmd it wants me to log off and crap on the other PC from whatever game I'm running at times to do updates and such. Thankfully there is ways around this at times but it's annoying since if I own 10 pc's and want to play 10 diff games from my own account I should be able to. That is pretty much my only hate for steam.
 

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Steam has it's problems but i like steam. I don't know about other people but i always had alot of broken\lost cds, from moving ect, over the years. Now wherever I'm at i can simply download a game i bought 5 years ago on steam.
 

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I find steam a bit more of a pain in the ass as a server admin with many many game servers. Just because if I running windows base game and not using steam cmd it wants me to log off and crap on the other PC from whatever game I'm running at times to do updates and such. Thankfully there is ways around this at times but it's annoying since if I own 10 pc's and want to play 10 diff games from my own account I should be able to. That is pretty much my only hate for steam.

I can see it being a pain, but in any case, it's not for no reason. I mean, there's a REASON for it being a pain. :p I'm not saying the thing can't be made better and less intrusive, just that it's fairly non-intrusive for the average user and there's actually a reason for it wanting you to be online. Unlike simcity in which there was absolutely no reason whatsoever that you had to be online 99% of the time but it made you be anyway.
 

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I can see it being a pain, but in any case, it's not for no reason. I mean, there's a REASON for it being a pain. :p I'm not saying the thing can't be made better and less intrusive, just that it's fairly non-intrusive for the average user and there's actually a reason for it wanting you to be online. Unlike simcity in which there was absolutely no reason whatsoever that you had to be online 99% of the time but it made you be anyway.

Oh yeah I would not trade steam for anything else these days. When I had 1-2 games sure I was like fuck you steam. But now it's a must but some tweaks I like to see done overtime. But the issue is account sharing their worried about. But tbh they could easily do things like ip etc. But then people use proxies and ugh.
 

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Oh yeah I would not trade steam for anything else these days. When I had 1-2 games sure I was like fuck you steam. But now it's a must but some tweaks I like to see done overtime. But the issue is account sharing their worried about. But tbh they could easily do things like ip etc. But then people use proxies and ugh.

i had steam stop working on my machine after a steam update and steam support couldnt help me. they said it wasnt on their end. I tried uninstalling and doing fresh installs etc. About a month later, they had another update and what do you know steam worked again. Talk about being pissed off for a month, not being able to access my library.

I also noticed i cant stay offline for ever. At some point it will say the session has expired and to log on. So i have to log on to get back into offline mode. Anyone else experience this?
 
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i had steam stop working on my machine after a steam update and steam support couldnt help me. they said it wasnt on their end. I tried uninstalling and doing fresh installs etc. About a month later, they had another update and what do you know steam worked again. Talk about being pissed off for a month, not being able to access my library.

I also noticed i cant stay offline for ever. At some point it will say the session has expired and to log on. So i have to log on to get back into offline mode. Anyone else experience this?


yeah i know it does that, and you have to log in to log off
yeah i spilled coffee on my modem once, this became a large problem.
 

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i had steam stop working on my machine after a steam update and steam support couldnt help me. they said it wasnt on their end. I tried uninstalling and doing fresh installs etc. About a month later, they had another update and what do you know steam worked again. Talk about being pissed off for a month, not being able to access my library.

I also noticed i cant stay offline for ever. At some point it will say the session has expired and to log on. So i have to log on to get back into offline mode. Anyone else experience this?

I haven't, but I don't use steam in offline mode that often.

I know steam used to be a pig of a program and offline mode generally wouldn't work if you had tried to connect and failed already which was a pain. I think they've fixed that and steam has improved a bunch since it began. It's not perfect yet, but it's sure as hell a lot better from my standpoint than having physical copies which I inevitably lose or break.