Florence in 1444

[ShadowCammy]

(This is a repost of an old thread I made, and I figured I should make a new one in hopes of it getting noticed.)

I have always been confused as to why Tuscany is a nation in 1444, as Florence is not. Historically, Florence owned the region which is Tuscany in 1444.
Not much would have to change for this. All that it would need is a name and flag change, government and rulers could be the same, ideas also.

Perhaps, for the Tuscan fanboys, there could be a decision to form Florence or Italy (Perhaps Florence being able to be formed at tech 6, and Italy at the normal time of when you can.)

If anyone has ideas for this, I'd like to hear.

"Furthermore, Tuscany must be destroyed."

 

[War_lord]

Either way, Florence did, in fact, exist until the early-mid 1500's, so really it would make sense to have it. Not having it, yet having Burgundy, really doesn't make much sense. Both were important to Europe in their times.

We have Burgundy and we have Tuscany.

Not having Burgundy and not having Florence is apples and oranges. Burgundy is a major state, Florence is another name for a state that's already in the game.

 

[Itchel]

I thought burgundy existed for a long time

 

[Wizzington]

Either way, Florence did, in fact, exist until the early-mid 1500's, so really it would make sense to have it. Not having it, yet having Burgundy, really doesn't make much sense. Both were important to Europe in their times.

We have it, it's the purplish thing between Siena and Modena.

 

[Galaahd]

It's a bit disappointing that it won't be possible to form Tuscany and Florence won't be a separate tag.

Eh...

At any rate, Wiz, would you consider adding some events to Tuscany? It's really lacking at the moment, although historically it went through really important events (the Medici, Pazzi conspiracy, Savonarola, the return of the Republic and the return of the Medici etc.).

 

[ShadowCammy]

It's a bit disappointing that it won't be possible to form Tuscany and Florence won't be a separate tag.

Eh...

At any rate, Wiz, would you consider adding some events to Tuscany? It's really lacking at the moment, although historically it went through really important events (the Medici, Pazzi conspiracy, Savonarola, the return of the Republic and the return of the Medici etc.).

If we don't get a Florentine nation, this would make sense. Doesn't Tuscany have like, two historical events?

 

[neondt]

At any rate, Wiz, would you consider adding some events to Tuscany? It's really lacking at the moment, although historically it went through really important events (the Medici, Pazzi conspiracy, Savonarola, the return of the Republic and the return of the Medici etc.).

If we don't get a Florentine nation, this would make sense. Doesn't Tuscany have like, two historical events?

Tuscany currently has ONE historical event (Michelangelo). Which as you say isn't very much considering all the interesting and important things that happened there.

Here's my Bonfire of the Vanities event, as an example of what could be added:

# bonfire of the vanities
country_event = {
   id = flavor_tus.5
   title = "flavor_tus.EVTNAME5"
   desc = "flavor_tus.EVTDESC5"
   picture = ANGRY_MOB_eventPicture

   fire_only_once = yes

   trigger = {
     religion = catholic
     tag = TUS
     owns = 116
     116 = {
       religion = catholic
     }
     is_year = 1495
     NOT = { is_year = 1500 }
   }
   mean_time_to_happen = {
     months = 36
   }
   option = {
     name = "flavor_tus.EVTOPTA5"
     add_country_modifier = {
       name = narrowminded_modifier
       duration = 3650
     }
     reverse_add_opinion = { who = PAP modifier = opinion_disappointed_pope }
   }
   option = {
     name = "flavor_tus.EVTOPTB5"
     116 = {
       spawn_rebels = {
         type = heretic_rebels
         size = 2
         leader = "Girolamo Savonarola"
       }
     }
     add_stability = -1
   }
   option = {
     name = "flavor_tus.EVTOPTC5"
     change_government = theocratic_government
     add_stability = -2
     define_ruler = {
       name = "Girolamo Savonarola"
       adm = 5
       dip = 5
       mil = 3
     }
   }
}

flavor_tus.EVTNAME5: "Bonfire of the Vanities"
flavor_tus.EVTDESC5: "Friar Girolamo Savonarola was a Dominican priest who was assigned to work in Florence in 1490, largely thanks to the request of Lorenzo de' Medici- an irony, considering that within a few years Savonarola would become one of the foremost enemies of the Medici house and helped to bring about their downfall in 1494. Savonarola campaigned against what he considered to be the artistic and social excesses of Renaissance Italy, preaching with great vigor against any sort of luxury. His power and influence grew so that with time he became the effective ruler of Florence, and even had soldiers for his protection following him around everywhere. Starting in the February of 1495, during the time that would normally have hosted the festival known as Carnival, Savonarola began to host his regular “Bonfire of the Vanities.” He collected various objects that he considered to be objectionable; irreplaceable manuscripts, ancient sculptures, antique and modern paintings, priceless tapestries, and many other valuable works of art, as well as mirrors, musical instruments, books of divination, astrology, and magic. He destroyed the works of Ovid, Propertius, Dante, as well as Boccaccio. So great was his influence that he even managed to obtain the cooperation of major contemporary artists such as Sandro Botticelli and Lorenzo di Credi, who reluctantly consigned some of their own works to his bonfires. Anyone who tried to object found their hands being forced by teams of ardent Savonarola supporters. These supporters called themselves Piagnoni (Weepers) after a public nickname that was originally intended as an insult."
flavor_tus.EVTOPTA5: "Leave them to it."
flavor_tus.EVTOPTB5: "Not my tapestries! Stop them at once!"
flavor_tus.EVTOPTC5: "He walks with God. Let him rule Florence."

 

[forrseti]

(This is a repost of an old thread I made, and I figured I should make a new one in hopes of it getting noticed.)

I have always been confused as to why Tuscany is a nation in 1444, as Florence is not. Historically, Florence owned the region which is Tuscany in 1444.
Not much would have to change for this. All that it would need is a name and flag change, government and rulers could be the same, ideas also.

Perhaps, for the Tuscan fanboys, there could be a decision to form Florence or Italy (Perhaps Florence being able to be formed at tech 6, and Italy at the normal time of when you can.)

If anyone has ideas for this, I'd like to hear.

"Furthermore, Tuscany must be destroyed."

- Good relations with the Pope?
- Own and control Siena, Pisa, Florence?
- Prestige level at least 50?

 

[ShadowCammy]

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Thank you, Wiz <3

 

[chrnno]

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Thank you, Wiz <3

I am curious why wait weeks to thank him?

 

[ShadowCammy]

I am curious why wait weeks to thank him?

Becuase I haven't bothered to check the forums in a while and just now saw it.

 

[chrnno]

Becuase I haven't bothered to check the forums in a while and just now saw it.

Oh I see that is a good reason.

 

[forrseti]

 

[Me_]

OK, so now that we do have Florence it's time to give it some flavour. One event and a bugged election choice isn't enough for the beating heart of the Renaissance.