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Ah, yes, that sounds more interesting...lets see if I can't make something of it.
 

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Real life got in the way, but here we go, expanding on my earlier idea and offering up my take on @jaredstanko 's idea.

First, the overall key. By my thinking the icon for the system would show the aggregate fleet score for the system and, if no military ships present, would show if there are construction or science ships (whichever is more valuable by however that's figured) present.

Stellaris_Map_Fleet_Icons_Key.jpg


Next, my initial idea redone a bit to tidy up a loose bit that bothered me.

Stellaris_Map_Fleet_Icons_Display_Idea1.jpg


Lastly, Jared's idea. Here I changed the fleet at Zramas to a construction ship to just show the difference.

Stellaris_Map_Fleet_Icons_Display_Idea2.jpg


Of the two, I actually think I like the second more even if the first presents less clutter.

Anyways, feedback is appreciated.
 
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Real life got in the way, but here we go, expanding on my earlier idea and offering up my take on @jaredstanko 's idea.

First, the overall key. By my thinking the icon for the system would show the aggregate fleet score for the system and, if no military ships present, would show if there are construction or science ships (whichever is more valuable by however that's figured) present.

View attachment 172636

Next, my initial idea redone a bit to tidy up a loose bit that bothered me.

View attachment 172637

Lastly, Jared's idea. Here I changed the fleet at Zramas to a construction ship to just show the difference.

View attachment 172638

Of the two, I actually think I like the second more even if the first presents less clutter.

Anyways, feedback is appreciated.


I would reduce the size of the numbers a bit but other than that fantastic. Say maybe 80% the current size?
 
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I was going for best-guess font and font size, reducing wouldn't be a problem. That would bring them more in line with the resource numbers we see on the map.

Something to play with in the morning. :)
 

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Me likey!

Although not a massive issue for me, I do recall thinking that those icons could do with some love to make them easier to read at a glance.
 
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Anyways, feedback is appreciated.

Thanks so much for putting together these mockups. I think both look pretty slick, though I think having the box-border helps readability in certain situations.

I wonder how it will scale for fleets with 2-digit strength. I'm wondering if it would work to drop the 'k' and just display 0, <1, 1, 2, ....10, 11, ...99, 99+ as the ranges.
 

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Real life got in the way, but here we go, expanding on my earlier idea and offering up my take on @jaredstanko 's idea.

First, the overall key. By my thinking the icon for the system would show the aggregate fleet score for the system and, if no military ships present, would show if there are construction or science ships (whichever is more valuable by however that's figured) present.

View attachment 172636

Next, my initial idea redone a bit to tidy up a loose bit that bothered me.

View attachment 172637

Lastly, Jared's idea. Here I changed the fleet at Zramas to a construction ship to just show the difference.

View attachment 172638

Of the two, I actually think I like the second more even if the first presents less clutter.

Anyways, feedback is appreciated.

Great work. At first I thought I would like the first idea as it is neat, but seeing it on the map I prefer number 2. This is something that needs to be enabled. Thanks for your efforts.
 

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Back with more mockups. Took @wingren013's advice and reduced the font size a bit. I also changed the key frame to show how the different orders of magnitude might be portrayed.

Key frame:

Stellaris_Map_Fleet_Icons_Key2.jpg


Redo of previous scene with redone sizes, using new numbers.

Stellaris_Map_Fleet_Icons_Display_Idea2B.jpg


As always, any feedback is encouraged.
 
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Back with more mockups. Took @wingren013's advice and reduced the font size a bit. I also changed the key frame to show how the different orders of magnitude might be portrayed.

Key frame:

View attachment 172923

Redo of previous scene with redone sizes, using new numbers.

View attachment 172924

As always, any feedback is encouraged.
Great work! The slightly reduced font size is a noticeable improvement, and I'm glad you got rid of the lowercase k... we've had enough of that short-lived silliness in EU4!
 
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Back with more mockups. Took @wingren013's advice and reduced the font size a bit. I also changed the key frame to show how the different orders of magnitude might be portrayed.

Key frame:

View attachment 172923

Redo of previous scene with redone sizes, using new numbers.

View attachment 172924

As always, any feedback is encouraged.


Looks good. The only thing I can think of is adding a symbol to represent being in combat. Maybe an orange border around the number box? Ideally in game it would flash.
 

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Maybe an orange border around the number box?
Color's not ideal from an accessibility perspective. I'll try some things and see if I can find something I find workable.
 
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I doubt we will see fleets with combat rating above a million, but I guess anything is possible. I do wonder if the galactic map display needs to be terribly precise, rather than give a rough idea. I worry that displaying both 127 and 127K provides increased precision at the cost of needing slightly longer to interpret when looking at the map. If I see a bunch of fleets labelled, 54K, 235, 45, 67K, 17K, 987, 123K and 423 I feel it takes longer to sort the significant from the insignificant. If everything is on the same "K" number scale, then big numbers are always bigger.
 
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Aye, a strength indicator for fleets is really needed.

Very nice mockup for how it could look like.

I'm wondering if we'd also need an indicator of a ground army strength on the map. Additionally, the map really looked terribly cluttered with all the resource icons on it, can those be disabled?

Maybe a map mode for army strength would be nice.
 
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Could we not make the construction ship and science ship have different ship icons rather than needing to put an "S" or whatever? So the icon shows you if it's a military ship, construction ship, or science ship?
 
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