flavouring the infrastructure tech lvls.

[Maximilian I]

until now there are only 5 manufactory types (refin.,naval.,arts.,wepons., trade.) and I think there´s one, that should be included. with 100 years of gametime added, it would be nice to add flavour to the infrastructure tech lvls.

the "porceallaine manufactory" was one of the most important investments of the states during the late period of the game time span. easily - as german - manufcatories like "Nymphenburg" or "Meissen" (founded 1710) come to mind. they were historically quite important, as they
- had a high roi.
- decreased the demand for "chinaware", the single most valuable tradegood in eu1.
so they had quite a large impact on history, as the owners of the large asian centers of trade saw their profit dwindle.

proposed cost/effect
manufactory 1200d, lvl 8 infrastructure
effects: +18d in rocky or forested provinces
- 5% (or -10%) demand for chinaware.

on the other hand, the demand for chinaware could also be lowered by adding this effect to the trade goods manufactories.

another proposal would be the addition of universities (e.g. giving 5d to all tech, costing 1200d and lowering province income by 3d) as in the beginning of eu2 the foundation of universities was still in full swing.

please rate this thread.

 

[Lethke]

This sounds good.

 

[Lord Prime]

Hope they make something like that.

 

[Maximilian I]

nobody interested (except Lethke)???

The invention of porcellaine marked the end of the age of mercantilism, while the productivity in the european countries got more and more important. Slowly the role of the colonies got one of a pure supllier of raw materials and Not exotic goods. Imho, Porcellaine manufactories could very easily simulate this.

 

[Maximilian I]

sorry, didn´t see you, Lord Prime

 

[Blade!]

An excellent idea... actually I think if Paradox wanted to sit down for a day and just design new manufactories..and little details like that, they could do alot of interesting stuff! Can't wait to see the final product!

 

[unmerged(3236)]

I like the univeristy idea

 

[Maximilian I]

the universities (the "renaissance" was primarily developed here) were the source for the ideas that made european countries dominate the world. I really liked to see eu2 to start out with the famous universities of paris, bologna or prag!

 

[nomoi]

Max that's a great idea...
and also blade is right.


We want more manufactories!!! (...well pls.)

 

[Spruce]

Originally posted by Maximilian I
the universities (the "renaissance" was primarily developed here) were the source for the ideas that made european countries dominate the world. I really liked to see eu2 to start out with the famous universities of paris, bologna or prag!

And don't forget the nice university of Leuven (founded ~1425)!

I also love your idea. But your sentence about dominating the world lacks a small nuance.

The war academies were famous for creating some ingenious minds (engineers~generals). They learned how to build bridges, small forts, weapons besides from the commanding, strategic, tactical skills.

In the war academies a large impuls was given to military, naval and infrastructure development.

The universities were a place were literature, poetry, law making and philosops were teached. They had less effect on the conquering aspect of the game. Universities should have a bonus on stability and trade and could be linked to a new branch on the Tech tree=laws (also with a bonus).

The tech tree for laws can incorporate some diplomatic actions and some reforms in the economy.

 

[unmerged(4076)]

I support those ideas 100%! Hope they are included in EU3 at least.

 

[Blade!]

Let's not forget Naval Acadamies... like Philip the Navigator established.

 

[Maximilian I]

And don't forget the nice university of Leuven (founded ~1425)!

the three universities I mentioned, were founded before 1419. You have to built ityourself .

the war and naval academies are included in the university (ok. only to some degree and a little bit generalised), as they would gain +5d reserach bonus on land and naval tech.

tech tree `laws´ +`arts?`: unfortunately this will have to wait ´til eu3

 

[maekh]

Shouldn't the Universities increase the revolt risk
at least in countries with a evil king or government

 

[Vulture]

Max? Aren't you a Beta Tester? Suggest it in Beta Forum

 

[unmerged(4076)]

You mean "angry students".

Maybe, sounds like something for the later period of the game. Before that practically everyone who went to uni came from the nobility and thus wasn't so inclined to revolt.

 

[Maximilian I]

yes vulture, I´m a beta tester.
yet I thought this thread would be better placed here.

 

[draco]

What about Oxford! It was established in the twelfth century.

 

[unmerged(4260)]

I think the university is a good idea...but since we're mostly in favor of having more manufactory types, I think you should be allowed to have more than one in your capital. Maybe have +1 place to build manufactory in a capitol and another +1 in a province with a CoT... I don't think it would be unreasonable

 

[Jools]

Implementing the Universities in the game would be a pain in the arse, wouldn't it? I mean, come on, there were at least a dozen well known universities, many countries had their own.

Anyway, maybe having universities would give you a X% chance for a technology event??? Like "Sire, the astronomer Copernicus has greatly helped our technological advance" RESULT: +1000 ducats to be allocated in our tech and each neighbouring country gets +500.

As for the factories, if there would be more, or there would be the ability to upgrade them, there should be more than one per province. And specific factories should add to the COT, not tech.