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Jeeeezus, wait at least until September.
At least.

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Though i guess he wouldn't mind anyone simply keeping it compatible.
 
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Jeeeezus, wait at least until September.
At least.
Jesus Herschel Christ! :p Seems gratuitous--end of August/beginning of September seems reasonable enough to me, at the most.

EDIT

Unless we're good to do the emergency compatibility update sooner rather than later, waiting until September, or later, is better if we want to eventually update it feature-wise with/without Hooni. If he returns before then, awesome. It will be now compatible with the new DLC and easier for him (or us, if he doesn't come back by then) to add/remove features to everyone's favorite mod.
 
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I am the same Shah. Good memory. Coincidentally, I've been meaning to shoot you a message on Steam but I've been distracted playing my latest game. I don't have Steam installed on this computer, but I'll hit you up when I get home.
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Jeeeezus, wait at least until September.
At least.

edit:
Though i guess he wouldn't mind anyone simply keeping it compatible.

Exactly. It's more upkeep in his prolonged, probably permanent absence. If at all possible no features would be added or removed outside the minimum modifications needed to make this popular mod compatible (and stable) with the HL DLC.

That really should be kosher--given the circumstances.
 
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Yup.
Sometimes real life keeps you busy.
So maybe he is...busy/occupied.

Blame the french.
Eh, what do i know. :D
 

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I think I teased enough of you guys for one day without actually doing anything :), I have the vast majority updated, one event file (wol hunting stuff) part of the objectives folder and the interface folder remaining. It seems to be working in my short tests tonight, the hunting events and the plots seemed to be the two things that need fixed post winmerged remaining atm.
 
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Well, in case someone tries updating it, in September or not and publishes it, I will opersonally contact Castellon/encourage that person to do it to see if it is allowed or not.
Blame the french.
So you will be able to blame me, yes. :p
 
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Well, in case someone tries updating it, in September or not and publishes it, I will contact Castellon to see if it is allowed or not.
Only keeping a mod compatible and running never was an issue and there is no reason why it should be....as far as i recall-
Taken it over though and updating with changes, yeah, that's something else.
Yeah, ask Castellon if in doubt.
No idea what or if Hooni commented on the possible scenario.

So you will be able to blame me, yes. :p

Who else should one blame, there's no one left.
Additionaly, french like to take the blame as they then have an excuse to argue and they love having arguments don't they ?
Err...i mean they love a proper discussion. It's a win-win scenario really.
So i heard. ;)
 

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Well, in case someone tries updating it, in September or not and publishes it, I will opersonally contact Castellon/encourage that person to do it to see if it is allowed or not.

So you will be able to blame me, yes. :p
Then you can remove all MZ stuff from WTWSMS
I already know what you said to Omega about if we start pushing the start date back so I'm reciprocating in kind.
 
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Loup, you are being somewhat provocative and this is going to get sticky if you keep pushing here, as Christ warned the righteous, "let yee who is without sin cast the first stone.". However, Starwarsfan for the meantime, if your going to do compatibility patches do them online in a private steam group. Hooni was a bit of a kitten with his arrogance, however we should respect his wishes, even if he was a kitten.
 

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Loup, you are being somewhat provocative and this is going to get sticky if you keep pushing here, as Christ warned the righteous, "let yee who is without sin cast the first stone.". However, Starwarsfan for the meantime, if your going to do compatibility patches do them online in a private steam group. Hooni was a bit of a kitten with his arrogance, however we should respect his wishes, even if he was a kitten.
In the past several years I have modding when a person goes inactive whether or not they agree to it other modders/ fans release patches for it, I have never seen such a pathetic display (I also thnk Loup has some alternative motives)

Personally I wont integrate this into my work as I think TOS will overall be better or at least more expansive, I simply want people to enjoy the game with the mod they were previously using, I am not posting on steamworkshop as that would be too far as would starting a new thread but if you seriously cant get over someone adapting a mod to a patch I am not sure what your issue is, at the end of the day its a game and a hobby. Pardon me for trying to make people have a more pleasant experience with a game, I am really sick of some modders attitude changes over the last several years.
 

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So yesterday I worked on updating this mod, not sure what isnt fully working besides a few things I noted, I used gamefront as the upload page, when I get into my mediafire account I'll upload it there as well.

I'd like to ask for now at least for people not to integrate this into their mods including my own.

http://www.gamefront.com/files/25152242/RaW+Mod+HL+Update.7z
 

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In the past several years I have modding when a person goes inactive whether or not they agree to it other modders/ fans release patches for it, I have never seen such a pathetic display (I also thnk Loup has some alternative motives)

Personally I wont integrate this into my work as I think TOS will overall be better or at least more expansive, I simply want people to enjoy the game with the mod they were previously using, I am not posting on steamworkshop as that would be too far as would starting a new thread but if you seriously cant get over someone adapting a mod to a patch I am not sure what your issue is, at the end of the day its a game and a hobby. Pardon me for trying to make people have a more pleasant experience with a game, I am really sick of some modders attitude changes over the last several years.


Call me an old cumudgeon, but I have been a programer and a modder for some 20 bloody years. Back when we were decompiling the age of empire genie engine with hex editors, or making new airplanes for Flight Simulator 95. OR when I was writing programs for Gentoo that could only be run in command line. In these days there was a simple rule to use of others content, it was the GNU license, give credit for influence, do not rerelease someone's material as your own, and most importantly, do not be afraid to tweak something, because at the end of the day, if you want it, it is likely someone else will. Why the hell you lot need to fight these damn epeen conflicts of bloody ownership, it seems to be that as IP law has developed so to has the sense of self entitlement for what are ultimately a finite number of numeric computations.
 
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Then you can remove all MZ stuff from WTWSMS
I already know what you said to Omega about if we start pushing the start date back so I'm reciprocating in kind.
I'm not the one who decides concerning that, it is Enlil. My stuff you can use freely, but the mod is an entirety. OK, I will make sure we remove everything if MZ does not want to give us permission to use it.
In the past several years I have modding when a person goes inactive whether or not they agree to it other modders/ fans release patches for it, I have never seen such a pathetic display (I also thnk Loup has some alternative motives)
My motive is to follow the rules of PDS and make sure they are followed. If I'm unsure whether that is the case or not, I discuss with the moderation. I would love to play this mod freely, but hooni did not want that for one reason or another.

Personally I don't care about who codes what, I just want to respect other people and follow the rules of this forum. ;) Hopefully nobody takes that as a personal attack, provocation or insult, because it really is not my point. At all.
 
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I'm not the one who decides concerning that, it is Enlil. My stuff you can use freely, but the mod is an entirety. OK, I will make sure we remove everything if MZ does not want to give us permission to use it.

My motive is to follow the rules of PDS and make sure they are followed. If I'm unsure whether that is the case or not, I discuss with the moderation. I would love to play this mod freely, but hooni did not want that for one reason or another.
I still think your being ridiculous btw, its a game whats wrong with trying to make some of the 8 thousand players of this mod a bit happier being able to possibly play their favorite mod, more so its good buisness for paradox as they may be more inclined to buy HL.

In regards to yours first part of your comment I have heard differently.
 

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In regards to yours first part of your comment I have heard differently.
Sending you a PM.
I still think your being ridiculous btw, its a game whats wrong with trying to make some of the 8 thousand players of this mod a bit happier being able to possibly play their favorite mod, more so its good buisness for paradox as they may be more inclined to buy HL.
I just want to assure that Castellon is Ok with it to be on the safe side.
 

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http://www.gamefront.com/files/25185583/raw.7z

Old link expired (I think), unsure if this works with the current patch let me know if it doesnt.

I'll try and upload it to github tonight as well.

It works fine, but I found one bug so far. It seems that there are two of each council position, and the council interface is also bugged, with the colors not following the names.
I can provide pictures if you want.

And thanks for updating this mod!
 
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