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The Year is 1975, and the world is electric. In North America, the United states rallies its southern Allies against the forces of Neo-Colonialism, while keeping its northern puppet stable, fighting off Canadian Liberation Forces. In Asia, The Chinese Empire, just some 70 years old, finds its self against the wall of both the U.S and the Commonwealth, and such begins to prepare itself for the final war of Humanity. In Oceania, Australia holds on to its motherland tight as Republicanism and New Zealand Nationalism grows by the Minute. South America is the battle field for the three power blocks, as the many dictatorships either gather for the looming conflict, or begin to fall under civilian pressure. Finally Africa and Europe find themselves under the yoke of the Britannia Kingdom, as Oswald Mosley grows old, so does his methods, and cracks are starting to form in the empire where the sun never sets. The fear of second great war grips the world, some see it as inevitable, whether conventional and nuclear, it has become a new age of human history, this is a new cold war, this is a new world.

Welcome to:
Flashes and Eagles.
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This is a project I've made mention of to some, but mostly kept hidden, this mod is an alternative cold war mod where The U.S is pitted against both China and a Ultra nationalist U.K, it will have proxy wars, a second world war (it never took up more than a Europe in this TL, which is inspired by a game I actually played in the grand campaign mod)., I wish this to be a more community based mod, where I can actually have a team and people who help me, instead of lately where its just me, so any one interested in joining please PM me or say so below. Also I now I have more projects than just this so here is a quick update on them.
This: Will be more secondary until I finish the Alhpa for the Glass house, which I hope can be implemented into this at some point
Glass House: Stated Above.
MLP mod: since the OP seems to have vanished, I will continue this as well, but not as heavily, since Im A. not a brony, and B. not sure about source material which I wish to keep intact.
Nation States: I don't know, I've lost the steam for this, but I wish to continue it sometime, for now its on hold indefinably.

so there's that see you guys soon.
 
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Events, Nations, and Wars (Approved and Ideas)

South America:
Brazilian War: Brazil and Argentina fight it out to see who will be the true South American state.
Uruguayan war: Possible short war between Uruguay and Brazil, could possibly result in the above.
Chilean civil war: Chile falls between Socialist and Right Wing supporters, Chinese can play a part in active service via volunteers and supplies.

Nations:
Asia: Suan Dynasty: Hardcore Right wing state, supported by Britannia to curb China, but that could be challenged head on soon. (suggested by:Gukpa)
 
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Screenshots

Britannia, Ruler of Europe and Africa, Champion of the Far Right.
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South African Cabinet, note: still not a republic, and why will be revealed later.
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Second Chile Civil war breaks out, Proxy war anyone?
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Far Eastern Republic: the American Response to the Tsarist Puppet in moscow, it stands literally against the sea by two powerhouses, but it has a very large military to defend itself, and will fight to the death against both the Chinese and the Commonwealth.
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I always love good Alternate History mods. I will be following it's development.
 
Nice.
Just let me know what you need and I'll try to help in any way that I can.

So I wish for a simple starting ministers for the Ottomans
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So would counterparts from our own 1970s-80s work for this one?
Because I think I could find some folks who would gladly serve their sultan.
 
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@Everyone:
thanks for all the support, I'm glad that so many are interested, it means alot.

for those that want to join the team, simply say so and I'll write your name down on the list. Right now I have a task for those that are good at ministers and such.
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The sick man no more, the Turks enter a new renaissance, despite the rebellious states in the south.
So I wish for a simple starting ministers for the Ottomans (Controls Turkey, Iraq, Palestine, Syria, and Lebanon) PA, pics would also be useful, either in the format or just pics I can make myself.
Other ministers i could use right now: Saudi Arabian (nationalist or Arabian Socialists), Republican Canadian ministers, and Fascist Italy (King in power, so Umberto II is still in power)
 
Looks interesting though please don't make the mistake of essentially having a non-hitler far-right be a copy of the nazis they should be BUF. They weren't anti-semitic at heart, I mean if they won WWI they most certainly wouldn't be if Hitler doesn't come to power. Good Luck!
 
This sounds pretty awesome and I will offer my help. I can help with anything except complicated graphics, with which I have little experience.

Could you please upload the work you have already done so that we have a general idea of the map and nations? Or at least post some screenshots of the continents and such.

And I think you should also elaborate on how Mosley came to power in Britain and how they managed to subdue the entire continent. :)
 
thezerech said:
Looks interesting though please don't make the mistake of essentially having a non-hitler far-right be a copy of the nazis they should be BUF. They weren't anti-semitic at heart, I mean if they won WWI they most certainly wouldn't be if Hitler doesn't come to power. Good Luck!
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Do need to worry, Since Hitler didn't rise to power, the BUF are more a Mussolini (he did rise to power, so its kinda a Germany Italy relationship) type, however two main policies exist in the party A. the eventual interrogation of Europe into the UK via Mosley historical Europe a Nation plan(Which the player can chose to follow or disembark from once Mosley himself bites the dust. and B. the keeping of colonies in both Africa and Asia. note how I have these ideas almost contrast, that's because they do, and the player must chose between which one to have more funding and support, both having ups and downs along the way.

UNSC Trooper said:
This sounds pretty awesome and I will offer my help. I can help with anything except complicated graphics, with which I have little experience.

Could you please upload the work you have already done so that we have a general idea of the map and nations? Or at least post some screenshots of the continents and such.

And I think you should also elaborate on how Mosley came to power in Britain and how they managed to subdue the entire continent. :)
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I barley have the map done, as this is my first modding experience with the E3 mod, I will try to get the easiest continent (North America) and show you, other ones are Africa (only three states exist there, Italy, Britannia, and South Africa, although I'm thinking of having some state that the BUF deemed, unusable, and have a couple Local states.) and maybe my finished product of the ottomans. when I get it I will upload it for sure. Also I have a post about the TL coming up, it'll be in the spot, I'll (try) to explain the cannon as much as possible)

Xie said:
Will there be a few Code Geass References?
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Event pic for when you lose as Mosley
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in reality, Im not a total Realism guy, so maybe I'll have a few tongue and cheek stuff in there especially for you, why
 
Is the Chile war between Pinochet vs. Allende Supporters?

Is the US more left leaning than OTL, since both of the empires are hard right.

What about Arab Nationalism and Islamism. And Pan-Africanism?

Will you make up some ministers? Butterfly effect after all.

Also what task do you want to do with ministers.

Is Ultranationalism the farthest right ideology? Or is it Fascism?
 
tyman323 said:
I barley have the map done, as this is my first modding experience with the E3 mod, I will try to get the easiest continent (North America) and show you, other ones are Africa (only three states exist there, Italy, Britannia, and South Africa, although I'm thinking of having some state that the BUF deemed, unusable, and have a couple Local states.) and maybe my finished product of the ottomans. when I get it I will upload it for sure. Also I have a post about the TL coming up, it'll be in the spot, I'll (try) to explain the cannon as much as possible)
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Sounds good.

Also, how long do you plan the timeline of the scenario to be?

I can start providing some ministers for you if you want. For Italy at least, I think I could I offer the ones I did for the 1964 mod since it's approximately the same timeline. Keep us posted on how the map of Europe comes along. I'm pretty interested to see how it looks in this setting. ;)
 
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