Fixing Grand Battleplan

[TheMeInTeam]

I've always wondered why battleplans were just a go mechanic. Arrows should be able to activate once another arrow/objective is considered complete. Tiles should be able to be marked as targets as well.

It is actually possible to put chains of orders into the game right now. The UI lies to you and the troops blatantly ignore/move opposite of the second arrow, so the commands don't work. But the game has the setup to do it, should it ever be a high enough patch priority to make sure the controls work. Here's an old picture showing what I mean:



Now, after naval landing, did the troops actually follow the ensuing spearhead orders consistently? No. But it's clearly possible to give orders sequentially. One day it might even be functional.

 

[bitmode]

I'm not sure how you're getting 35%. 4.725 is +20% of 3.9375, which is the amount of damage for those 25 hits you would expect.

The tactics damage modifier applies just like that damage reduction from having suffered damage in the combat. I wonder if it is multiplicative with that modifier, or if it is additive. Who knows. Probably @bitmode

They are additive

 

[Corpse Fool]

They are additive

That doesn't make sense to me. Which I suppose for PDX means it makes perfect sense.

 

[Com]

They are additive

So that division experiencing a 20% tactics bonus
25 * 3.5 * 0.90 * 0.05 = 3.9 damage per hour
becomes
25 * 3.5 * 1.10 * 0.05 = 4.8125 damage per hour
which is 22.2% boost?

Though 25 * 3.5 * 1.00 * 0.05 = 4.375 damage per hour, boosting 1.00 to 1.2 changes 4.375 to 5.25, the 20% that is expected.

So tactics help understrength divisions hit closer to their base stats a little, but not beyond that.

 

[ChalkyTable3335]

I usually use gbp whenever i play hoi4

 

[el nora]

ok...

how about we use real divisions, instead of whatever the person who made the wiki was using?
12/7/2, support eng and logi, SF r/l, 1941 techs, no upgrades for simplicity: 500 soft, 498 hard, 763 bkt. multiply that by the base 30% max planning you have 650/647.4/991.9. org is 30.6.

you always have 30% base planning. france (assuming we're still talking about france) gets +25%. and +23% or more from generals is standard. +80% max before doctrine is pretty common. sf tanks would have 500/498/763 -> 900/896.4/1373.4

same division, gbp left: 422/423/605. multiply that by 60% max planning and you have 675.2/676.8/968. org is 33.4.

+110% from the 30% gbp doctrine bonus gives us 422/423/605 -> 886.2/888.3/1270.5

 

[pro.gamer.69]

(assuming we're still talking about france)

i wasn't. i should have included the base from generals though.