Fixed Muslim, Pagan factions

[DivineShadow]

Mmm o I would be very carefull with such posts

If it was real then yes i would (LOL) but since it's a game and we are beta testing things i hardly see any reason to unless told otherwise.

Although if you look back it's others that *really wanted it*

 

[DivineShadow]

I considered making an AAR or something but laziness kicked in and i think i will go play a game instead.

 

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There seem to be a bug when playing as muslim/pagan. You cant make peace with King Tier only with Duchy or Count Tier! The Sue for Peace option is simply greyed out.

 

[DivineShadow]

There seem to be a bug when playing as muslim/pagan. You cant make peace with King Tier only with Duchy or Count Tier! The Sue for Peace option is simply greyed out.

That's because the guy your asking for peace has no piety.....(It does work suing for peace i've played countless MP with it and a friend)

Both need 25 piety to sue for peace

 

[Ayeshteni]

If it was real then yes i would (LOL) but since it's a game and we are beta testing things i hardly see any reason to unless told otherwise.

Although if you look back it's others that *really wanted it*

NO, No, NO. I already said this.

MARRIED before 16

NOT PREGNANT before 16.

Do NOT make it possible, even as a mod. you will find bad thing start to happen to you. trust me on this.

People want the marriages before, not the procreation. That is a VERY bad road to go down.

Have I made this clear

Ayeshteni

 

[DivineShadow]

NO, No, NO. I already said this.

MARRIED before 16

NOT PREGNANT before 16.

Do NOT make it possible, even as a mod. you will find bad thing start to happen to you. trust me on this.

People want the marriages before, not the procreation. That is a VERY bad road to go down.

Have I made this clear

Ayeshteni

I already said i check if it does and it appears it doesn't so everything is fine although i only tested for 3 years so i guess it's safe but if your willing to give it a beta test also we will know for sure

End Result :
Under 16s *do NOT* appear to be able to get pregnant. So as far as i'm concerned this is good and there shouldn't be a problem.

Remember i only made it possible *to* marry nothing else.

 

[Ayeshteni]

I already said i check if it does and it appears it doesn't so everything is fine although i only tested for 3 years so i guess it's safe but if your willing to give it a beta test also we will know for sure

End Result :
Under 16s *do NOT* appear to be able to get pregnant. So as far as i'm concerned this is good and there shouldn't a problem.

Will test further tommorrow then.

But on no circumstances should you make it possible.
Ayeshteni

EDIT: very well then.

 

[DivineShadow]

Will test further tommorrow then.

But on no circumstances should you make it possible.
Ayeshteni

No need to tell me *looks like an innocent modder*

 

[DivineShadow]

A new mod for you all :
Inherit Mod - This makes it so girls can inherit the throne as well as your sons.

 

[Grell74]

Very nice work Shadow - but female inheritence is only when there are no males right?

 

[Gratianus]

Great work really.

BTW, could I make some requests?
1) Is it possible to get back stewardship to decide demesne size (get rid of 1.04b.april1 change)?
2) Is it possible to give Holy Roman Empire a proper demesne bonus (+3 or so)?

 

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- add a new imperial tier (IE, granting to a tag the bonuses granted to the BYZA one)?
- introduce a (old good) military access system?

Divine, you are our only hope...

 

[Grell74]

Divine are you using a hex editor? Is it really tricky? I am not a progammer but I have moded a lot and have a pretty good grasp of the game's mechanics. Number 1 on my wishlist (and i dare say a few others) is making it so that you need claims on Muslims and Pagans before you can take their lands (just as you do with other Catholics) is this something that can be done?

Also I like your patch for women inheriting, but is it possible to stop the AI granting them titles, to me it makes much more sense for women to inherit, but as it is now far too many women are handed titles.

 

[DivineShadow]

Very nice work Shadow - but female inheritence is only when there are no males right?

No females can inherit any time even if you have males....oldest child takes the throne even if its a girl.

 

[DivineShadow]

Divine are you using a hex editor? Is it really tricky? I am not a progammer but I have moded a lot and have a pretty good grasp of the game's mechanics. Number 1 on my wishlist (and i dare say a few others) is making it so that you need claims on Muslims and Pagans before you can take their lands (just as you do with other Catholics) is this something that can be done?

Also I like your patch for women inheriting, but is it possible to stop the AI granting them titles, to me it makes much more sense for women to inherit, but as it is now far too many women are handed titles.

I can make it so you need claims on muslims and pagans. (But do note with this you wont be able to declare war on religious enemies you must get a claim it will change a lot)

Stopping AI granting women titles is possible.

Oh, and i use a debugger to find stuff (SoftICE)

 

[DivineShadow]

- add a new imperial tier (IE, granting to a tag the bonuses granted to the BYZA one)?
- introduce a (old good) military access system?

Divine, you are our only hope...

Old military access system? Wha?

You can add any kind of bonuses you want to a title....(In theory)

 

[DivineShadow]

Muslim Claims Mod - This makes it so you *must* have claims on other religions before you can attack them.

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As you can see catholic king of england can't declare war on a muslim nation without claims.

 

[Ayeshteni]

Hmm, about this 'need claims before war on religious enemy'

it will Fek up the Crusades something rotten. Pope calls a Crusade, either:

1) Only those with claims go on the Crusade (or those with the prestige to grab a claim)

2) Everyone that already does go on Crusade, goes on Crusade with the BB levels jumping throughout Europe and the Wars going on continuously. And Europe going to hell in a handbasket.

I would like to see feedback on how this works, by those who use this particular mod. it could be interesting.

P.S. @Divine Shadow: What do you do if you want to use more than one of these mods at the same time? Do you have to open all of them an enable them? Will there be conflicts?

Ayeshteni

 

[DivineShadow]

Hmm, about this 'need claims before war on religious enemy'

it will Fek up the Crusades something rotten. Pope calls a Crusade, either:

1) Only those with claims go on the Crusade (or those with the prestige to grab a claim)

2) Everyone that already does go on Crusade, goes on Crusade with the BB levels jumping throughout Europe and the Wars going on continuously. And Europe going to hell in a handbasket.

I would like to see feedback on how this works, by those who use this particular mod. it could be interesting.

P.S. @Divine Shadow: What do you do if you want to use more than one of these mods at the same time? Do you have to open all of them an enable them? Will there be conflicts?

Ayeshteni

I never said it was a practical thing to use....A guy wanted it and here it is nobody forces you to use it.

I haven't used it much so no feedback from me on it. Lets hope the guy who asked for it does a good test.

There are no conflicts you can use as many as mods you want at a time.

 

[Grell74]

Geez Divine that was quick!!

I have been testing your other mods, not a single crash or amything weird, I'll say it again GREAT WORK. Not too sure about the female inherting one, I dont think it was all that common in history, in my testing a younger male will inherit over and older sister, although you say:

No females can inherit any time even if you have males....oldest child takes the throne even if its a girl.

Maybe this depends upon which inheritence law you have. I will be testing the Religious Enemy mod and get back to you with feedback. I don think the Crusades will necessarily be a problem, I am quite proficient at making events and can whip up some TAG specific ones. E.g. Are Castile / Castilian Culture, Crusade target = Valencia. A) Take up the cross (get claim on Valencia and and Crusader trait). B) No I am an impious chicken (coward, - piety, etc). This could also be a good thing as these events can encourage the more historical crusader nations (and discourage Croatia from crusading in Iberia, etc).