[FIXED] HoI 4 - Academy spirit Engineering Schools gives xp gain boost to assigned general traits Scavenger and Fortress Buster [1.12.11]

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Spirit of the Academy Engineering Schools giving experience gain boost to non-earnable assigned general traits Scavenger and Fortress Buster [Avalanche 1.12.11]

What platform do you play on?
SteamOperating system
Windows 10

Game Version & Checksum
Avalanche (92f5)

Enabled DLC
Together for Victory, Death or Dishonor, Waking the Tiger, Man The Guns, La Resistance, Battle for the Bosporus, No Step Back, By Blood Alone

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This bug report emerged from the discussion here https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/engineering-schools-sprit.1574141/ ; the issue was discovered by @Iwo Jima

The description of the spirit of the academy Engineering Schools states that it confers each a 10% experience gain boost towards the Fortress Buster and Scavenger general traits. However, those traits can't be eraned at all - they are General traits, which are "payed for" with command power and which have the prequesite if having a certain earned trait (here: the Engineer trait)

In conclusion it appears that both of the formentioned traits have no practical gameplay effect. At minimum I think those references should be removed to avoid confusion.

A further possible consideration is balance - on the first glance, after the removal of the invalid boni the spirit would in line with others in regard to the number of boni (chance for a personality trait + 20% experience boost for an earned trait), but if the invalid extra boni where granted on purpose to make up for a perceived lesser value of Engineer and Engineer Officer, then probably something else should be added as compensation.

Steps to Reproduce
Investigate the spirit in question ingame and/or on code level; if you start a game, I would recommend USA or Yugoslawia, as they start with the needed Superior Firepower doctrine to enable the spirit.

Are you playing on the save from the previous/older version of the game

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