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Black Watch

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July 28, 1943

Along the long Poland-Soviet Union border, all was quiet - for now. Polish border patrols reported that over the past few weeks, the Soviet forces opposite them had dwindled from something like ten divisions per province to only three. No doubt they were being transferred east to help prosecute the Soviet Union's war with Japan.

Poland-SUFrontier.jpg


In the Germany Occupation Zone, things were similarly stable. The German populace was not too restive, thanks to Poland's government being more free and democratic than Nazi Germany's had been. Still, a number of divisions remained there to control the small amount of partisan activity, and make sure the German people properly learned the consequences of their greed and aggression.

GermanyAdministrativeRegion.jpg


Although the war in Europe had been finished in a few months, another one was raging in the Pacific. The Japanese had been fighting in China since 1937, with the only reaction being an embargo from the US. Germany had not chose to invite Japan to the Anti-Comintern Pact, only Italy.

However, Japan, despite not having Germany and Italy as allies, still made the dangerous decision to expand the way by declaring war on the UK, the US, and the Netherlands. This brought the entire Allied Forces to bear against Japan, and the US, the Philippines, and Liberia joined as well.

To make matters even worse for Japan, their belligerence had apparently gone far enough that the Soviet Union declared war on them. It it possible that Allied diplomats secretly negotiated with them to enter the war, although it could also just be Soviet self-aggrandization, desire for revenge against the Japanese for past defeats, or both. Poland's government didn't mind, as the Soviet entry into the war caused them to decrease the slightly alarming number of troops on their side of the two nations' common border, and help against Japan on the mainland was welcome - for now.

PacificTheater.jpg


After their incredible defeat of Germany, which few had thought possible, the Polish people had not given much thought to what they would do afterwards. The first and overriding concern had been survival, and then the defeat of Nazi Germany. The military and the government debated what to do in light of the war raging in the distant Far East. After much discussion, a course of action was decided which was risky, but if successful, could elevate Poland's status in the world even higher than it already was after almost single-handedly stopping the Nazis and their imperialism.

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AUTHOR'S NOTE: Hello everyone. I am Black Watch, and after lurking on the AAR forums for a long while, I overcame my hesitancy and decided to finally try my hand at my own AAR.

Since this is my first AAR, please don't expect too much. It's mainly to give me practice at AAR-writing.

The unique thing about this AAR is that it is not a "from-the-beginning" AAR. You will have noticed that it starts in 1943. Basically, I played a 1936 GC as Poland, seeing if I could at least survive against Germany. I had read the Poland guide in the HoI wiki, and added a few touches of my own to the strategy contained therein.

As it turned out, things went rather better than simple survival, to the point that I decided to write this AAR. I hope you'll enjoy it.

Further updates to come.

Campaign: 1936 GC
Country: Poland
Difficulty: Normal
AI Aggressiveness: Normal
Version: 1.3b

EDIT: Added the game details seen above.

As this is an "in medias res" AAR, so to speak, I shall slowly reveal details of what came before during the course of the AAR. Sadly, I took no screenshots before those ones above. At first I was unsure whether it would even be considered proper to start an AAR in the middle. But then, I decided that it might add an additional twist to the AAR, as people try to figure out how things ended up the way they did. :D
 
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Wow, you invaded Germany in 1936 already? But a very interesting approach to this AAR. Will be following this. Can't wait for the inevitable war with the Soviet Union!

Tim
 
Wow, you invaded Germany in 1936 already? But a very interesting approach to this AAR. Will be following this. Can't wait for the inevitable war with the Soviet Union!

Tim

Timmie0307, thank you! It's quite encouraging to get a response so soon, especially as activity seems to have dropped on the HoI2 forums due to the release of HoI3. :( I didn't exactly invade in 1936. I build up forces until 1939, and then let them declare war on me, just as they did OTL. However, this time, Poland won.

I have almost never (in my own experience) played a game where Germany was defeated so early, so I have little idea as to what happens next. However, just as you said, it occurred to me that an early removal of Nazi Germany essentially advances the onset of the Cold War, as Germany was the main reason the Allies and the Comintern fought together in the first place. War with the Soviet Union may indeed become a possibility if and when Japan is defeated. Fortunately, I believe I have until then to prepare...

Since there's already been a response to this thread, I shall most definitely post another update tonight, after work. :D
 
Hi,

interesting Poland always is. Any mods used?

Rgds, Oldtimer

Yes, indeed. It's always an interesting few years at the start. ;)
No mods, unfortunately. I forgot to include the patch version, I shall edit the post to include that. This is just vanilla HoI2 1.3. It's a shame, because I see so many interesting mods on this forum. Not to mention Arma and DD. However, I'm hesitant to use a mod since I'm not sure how to use them. I might only succeed in screwing up the game files and/or the saves.

Update to follow...
 
July 28, 1943

Poland had successfully returned to democracy, in order to benefit fully from a free market.

Diplomacy7-28-43.jpg


Poland had disbanded its entire navy and air force in 1936, to conserve on supplies, as it was believed that it would be impossible to challenge Germany at sea or in the air anyway. With Germany annexed, Poland was now building up an modern air force and navy as well as an army.

Production7-28-43.jpg


The conquest of Germany had brought Poland from having a mere two tech team slots to the full five. Poland was now making full use of this. Research was optimized by first researching, as far as possible, techs for which Poland possessed blueprints, from the UK, France, or the US. The UK often gave Poland blueprints for free, but in case they took too long doing so, Poland would use its sizable stockpiles to purchase them.

Poland had obtained the blueprints for both the UK's Operational Stages and France's Attritional Containment Doctrines - thus giving Poland two doctrine paths to choose from. Although it was known that Attritional Containment, a holdover from the Great War, was an inferior doctrine in the mobile and mechanized warfare of today, it was decided to pursue it still because it made the production of infantry and supporting brigades easier.

Technology7-28-43.jpg


With Europe at peace for the moment, the only area where Polish troops were fighting was, bizarrely enough, Southeast Asia. The Japanese had earlier launched a formidable invasion of the Philippines, landing in Aparri with a force that eventually swelled to between thirty and fifty divisions.

The Allies matched the Japanese division for division, building up a huge force in Manila. The Poles wondered how exactly the Philippines was able to supply the whole stack, which contained many armored and mechanized units, to say nothing of the ships and planes the Allies had also stationed in the Philippines.

Japan, at one point, had held the entire island of Luzon north of Manila. However, the Allies, once the force in Manila reached almost 50 divisions, counter-attacked, eventually smashing them against the sea. The Allies lost more than ten divisions, however, in fruitless landings in Lingayen. The Japanese took Lingayen, but then left it unoccupied in order to proceed south to Clark Airbase and Bataan. Noticing this, countries such as France, Canada, New Zealand and Australia would land one to three divisions at a time in Lingayen, where, upon landing, they would immediately be attacked by the large Japanese stacks in Aparri and Clark and forced to surrender. The Allies would land more divisions before the advancing Japanese could recapture Lingayen, and then those newly-landed divisions would be defeated and captured again. This went on for a few months, with the Allied stack in Manila doing nothing at all to assist, even though in Polish estimations this stack could easily have defeated the Japanese invasion, composed mainly of infantry and cavalry. Finally, the Manila stack deigned to move, by which time at least a dozen Allied divisions had been lost at Lingayen.

44-divStackinManila.jpg


Despite these losses, it seemed unlikely that Japan would invade the Philippines again any time soon. In just a few months after the declaration of war, Japan's navy had been almost completely destroyed. Poland had played a significant part in this destruction. Moreover, Japan would have its hands full with the Soviet Union alone...

Update to follow...

AUTHOR'S NOTE: Aside from the reason stated above for picking Attritional Containment, the main reason was mainly - simply to try it out. :p I'm aware that it's one of the weaker land doctrines in the game.
 
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Great start, I think I'll follow this AAR.

More readers are always welcome. Thank you! :)

BTW, I just noticed that I forgot to put a screenshot of the situation in the Philippines in the last post. Feel free to check it out.
 
Sorry that I haven't updated yet. I had no Internet connection over the weekend. Will update after work.
 
I doubt Japan can last much longer at war with most of the major powers; sooner or later the British will destroy their navy and possibly invade.(That's what I see with the US AI most of the time.)
 
I doubt Japan can last much longer at war with most of the major powers; sooner or later the British will destroy their navy and possibly invade.(That's what I see with the US AI most of the time.)

Indeed, you are correct about their navy, as you'll see in my update. Japan cannot possibly survive against what is pretty much the rest of the world. However, what I've never seen the AI do is invade the Home Islands. Even with Japan's navy completely destroyed and most of its army lost on the mainland, the AI will not invade the Home Islands, even when each coastal province is only defended by one Garrison division each. It may have something to do with the older version of the game that I have.
 
July 28, 1943

Japan had undertaken its surprise attack on Pearl Harbor on November 3, 1942. Things had not gone Japan's way since then. In just eight months, Japan's once-proud navy had been almost completely destroyed.

JapansNavy.jpg


Engagements with the powerful British and American (and surprisingly, even the Soviet) fleets had decimated Japan's navy. However, Allied land-based naval bombers had also taken a significant toll. And here, Polish planes and pilots had played an important role, even with Poland on the other side of the planet from the conflict.

JapansSunkShips.jpg


A/N: This might be the last of the "catching up" updates. I have not yet unpaused the game since I began the AAR. After this, I may unpause it to finally continue the game.

As for my remarks on Poland's significant contribution to the sinking of the IJN, note that in the "Sunk Ships" window, any ship there that is listed as being sunk by "nothing" was sunk by aircraft. And in that case, I can reasonably estimate that about 90 percent of Japanese ships sunk by aircraft were sunk by Polish aircraft. For some reason, the "Aircrafts" listing disappears when one exits the game and loads it again.
 
Polska's air force succeeds! Lets just hope the commies don't do their own style of blitzkreig on you.
 
Why aren't you doing Infiltration Assault? Sure you don't have the blueprints but the other GBP doctrines are awful, while IA is easily the best Firepower Focus doctrine and possibly the best doctrine overall.
 
Timmie0307 - I have never played a Barbarossa-less game like this one, this far (I also have a France game where I also annexed Germany, but I put it on hold in 1942). So I don't personally know how the Soviet AI behaves without a Germany to invade them. From the little I've read from other players' AARs, it seems that the Cold War will start early, and possibly turn hot with the Soviets launching their own unprovoked invasion of Europe, as opposed to being invaded by Germany first and then pushing them back.

However, I don't know for sure if that will happen. If the Soviet AI doesn't do anything at all until 1947, don't get too bored. :D

As you can see, however, although I'm not even sure it'll happen, I'm preparing for the eventuality. Let's hope it'll be enough.

MUSSOLINIIIIII - Poland rules the waves - from the air. I probably sank at least as many Japanese ships as the US and the UK and the SU did put together.

If the Reds do attack, hopefully they don't do it before I'm ready. Poland will be the Free World's first line of defense, which scares me a little...

satilisu - Yeah, I read on the wiki that IA is the best of the GBP doctrines, and probably the best overall. The main reason I chose AC is simply to try it out. I'm not sure how many countries go AC or OS, so I want to try them out. Playing UK will give an opportunity to try out OS. There will always be other opportunities to play IA (such as in my Manchukuo game that I'm playing alongside this one).

AC is pretty much an outdated holdover from WW1, but it does give cheap infantry and engineers, so hopefully I can spam those to stop the Red avalanche.

Update to follow tonight...
 
My suggestion for using the AC doctrine is massing inf/art stacks.About the big red blob to your right if you can get all your forces from Asia to Poland you should be good for a Soviet offensive.(That is if they attack.)
 
My suggestion for using the AC doctrine is massing inf/art stacks.About the big red blob to your right if you can get all your forces from Asia to Poland you should be good for a Soviet offensive.(That is if they attack.)

That's indeed the whole idea of AC. As for that big red blob, the front line is really too long for me to defend as well as I'd like. I'd like to have at least 12 INF, plus some armor, HQs, etc. per province, but that could be difficult to achieve. However, I have another card to play besides troops, which a careful inspection of the screenshots might show.

Sorry for the late update. Update to follow now.
 
February 3, 1944

In truth, after the situation updates of July 1943, Poland hadn't done much in the way of combat. Poland had shipped its air force to the Far East to help in sinking the IJN. With that done, further sending of land troops was deemed a waste of time. Poland's lack of Transport ships and amphibious assault expertise, plus the distance involved, made transferring a significant portion of Poland's army hardly worth the effort. It was decided to keep the men on the border, even though the Soviets had left it undermanned to start transferring troops east.

This seemed to be a good decision, as, for some reason, the Soviets brought the troops they had sent east back west (even without managing to defeat Japan), bringing the Soviet border troops on the Polish border back to their formidable 10-divisions-to-a-province numbers. Poland would have to consider this even as it prosecuted the war against Japan.

Poland had earlier researched Rocket Artillery to the highest possible extent. Now, the Polish High Command, interested in interspersing regular artillery and rocket artillery, ordered the production of 20 brigades of Rocket Artillery.

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Next, one area of research Poland had completely neglected was amphibious troops. Research was begun on this as soon as possible, using blueprints bought from the UK, France and the US. For although Poland would not be shipping its entire army to the Far East, that did not mean that they had no plans for ground operations in the area.

A daring plan was being hatched by the High Command, even now, although it might take even a year for it to come to fruition. If all went as planned, only a small part of Poland's ground forces would be necessary...

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Poland had also begun a naval expansion program. This was not deemed as important as army expansion, and was done mainly as a symbol of Polish prestige and power. Using blueprints from the major Allies, Poland quickly researched four fields - Destroyers, Submarines, Heavy Cruisers, and Aircraft Carriers. It was decided not to build any ships until reaching 1941 level, as ships cannot be upgraded. With this level of technology reached, orders were place for the capital ships. The Transports, Destroyers and Submarines had already been finished.

PolishNavy.jpg


As mentioned earlier, although the Poles did not bring their whole army to Asia, they had brought a small force - nine divisions strong. After a failed attempt by three divisions to dislodge just one Japanese division from Palawan, back in June 1943, the Polish weakness in amphibious invasions had begun apparent. After that, these nine division spent their time relaxing in Darwin and Rangoon. They were not supposed to move until better Marine technologies had been researched in 1944. However, a mistaken report that the Americans were landing in Osaka caused the Polish High Command to speed up the timetable. Preliminary to further operations, General Anders's three divisions were earmarked to take the Carolines from the Japanese.

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Anders's men embarked on Transports prepared for them. The transports were unescorted, since Japan had virtually no navy and air force left. However, even though intelligence indicated that the Japanese had only one wing of Naval Bombers left, this wing somehow managed to intercept the transport fleet near French-occupied Palau. This was worrying, but the naval bombers were only able to damage the Polish transports. Following that, Poland's four Fighter wings were transferred from Manila to Palau to fly patrols over the Carolines.

The transport fleet reached the Carolines. Not all the islands were defended. The Japanese had garrisons on Ngulu, Ulithi, Pulusuk and Satawan. The Poles landed first on the undefended islands. First Yap was attacked, to cut Ngulu off from supplies.

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It took two days for the Poles to complete landing their equipment on Yap, unopposed.

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After recovering and reorganizing from the landings, General Anders was ordered to attack the Japanese garrison on Ngulu. The High Command wished to see if Polish amphibious assault capabilities had improved since the failed Palawan landings, where each of the three attacking divisions sustained almost 30% casualties and did not dislodge the single Japanese division.

The battle commenced under a tropical rainstorm. Anders was one of Poland's more skilled generals, hence, he had been tapped for this assault.

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The attack went better than expected, considering the debacle in Palawan only six months before. The Japanese garrison division, without supplies and still at a Great War standard of equipment, even attempted a banzai counterattack against the Poles. This only increased their casualties. Notably, the Japanese general and his men had gained a lot of experience before the attack from fruitless British and French air bombardments of the well-entrenched garrison.

NguluCounterattack.jpg


Nevertheless, the garrison was defeated despite heroic attempts at resistance. The surrounded garrison was given every opportunity to surrender, but because these were the Japanese, it was possible that many of them fought to the death.

NguluVictory.jpg


The Poles then moved in to occupy Ngulu. This was not done by taking small boats across from Yap, but by reembarking on the transports and then disembarking again on Ngulu, as this was faster.

NguluCaptured.jpg


The same pattern of landing first on the unoccupied islands was followed in the Central Carolines. The Japanese Garrisons on Pulusuk and Ulithi were dealt with in the same way.

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Finally, the time had come to assault the most valuable of the Carolines - the vast air and naval base at Truk. The Poles had not landed here earlier for fear of Allied planes and ships wasting Polish fuel and supplies. Truk, strangely, was undefended, although nearby Satawan was. This made no sense, as the supply depot was at Truk. The Poles captured the Japanese supplies for themselves, leaving the Satawan Garrison unsupplied. Then, the Poles assaulted and annihilated them.

The Carolines were now entirely in Polish hands. The offensive had started in December 1943. It had taken just over a month to complete the liberation of the Carolines with minimal forces. Further offensives are planned.

TrukCaptured.jpg
 
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