Because he is evil, and still won't tell me what his badboy rating is.VILenin said:
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Pff it's france. He already hinted it. He said something along the lines about france already wanting to invade blah blah blah. Meh. I don't really think france constitutes as a ''great power'' more of a ''great punching bag'' and that's at best.
FJ44, the Badboy under Kaiser Wilhelm II, you ask?
Umm... 104.
Renss
Umm... 104.
All right... Here you are!VILenin said:
Renss
From The Eagle Rising: The Story of Prussia's Arrival On the World Stage, pub. 1989 by Professor Reinicke Herz
Around the turn of the century, under the leadership of Kaiser Wilhelm II, the Prussian military underwent a massive upgrade. Certainly, it is true, he utilized his army and navy more during his reign than his predecessors had. But this also reflected two other things.
One, Germany could no longer go on as if it were a provincial European power. It had developed a worldwide empire which it needed to protect, and it also had drawn the ire of several world powers with significant military strength. The inadequacies of Germany’s defenses had been highlighted more than once in the past, though also had its strengths. Two, as a far-flung imperial power, Germany needed to have a navy to rival, if not to eclipse, the other major naval powers of the world. Of most particular concern, of course, was the British Royal Navy, though the American and Russian navies were formidable as well.
The Imperial Navy grew dramatically, in both numbers and capabilities. Between 1895 and 1905, Prussia launched 38 new vessels – 8 transport steamers, 15 light cruisers, 9 armored cruisers, and 2 submarines. The Kriegsmarine also christened four new, impressive battleships – the SMS Kaiser Wilhelm II and SMS Prussia, launched in March of 1898, and SMS Friedrich der Grosse (aka Konig Friedrich II) and SMS Wilhelm der Grosse (aka Kaiser Wilhelm I), launched in November, 1900.
In addition, over those same years (1895 to 1905), Prussia increased the size of the Wehrmacht by 11 cavalry divisions, 26 regular infantry divisions, and another 7 divisions of native infantry composed of volunteers from Africa and China.
Also, in response to repeated concerns about troop buildups on the other side of the border, a string of fortresses was begun along the French frontier.
During these years, Germany was generally considered to be the 3rd ranked military power of the world, behind only the United States and Great Britain.
At the turn of the century, Prussia was considered by most to be the pre-eminent world power regardless of its lack of military superiority. Germany had become one of two cultural leaders, competing with the United States in this respect, and maintaining cultural leadership throughout western and central Europe, exclusive of the British Isles.
Germany was also the 3rd ranked economic power of the world, behind only the United States and Russia. She was the prime exporter of many commodities, including:
Military Supplies: Explosives, Ammunition
Finished Products: Steel, Machine Parts, Wine, Paper, Lumber, Fertilizer
Raw Materials: Sulphur, Iron, Coal
Foodstuffs: Fruit, Cattle
New Technologies: Aeroplanes, Automobiles, Telephones
It should be noted that, for most of these items, Germany was producing 1/3 or more of world’s supply of that commodity.
The German economy was dampened, somewhat, by her substantial debt levels, which bounced back and forth between being paid off by the expanding economy, and being elevated by purchases of new military equipment, the raising of troops, or public aid to the private sector meant to further bolster German industry. At the end of 1897, Germany owed 820 million Reichsmarks in public debt. It lessened to 720 million in 1898, but rose again to 920 million in 1899 after massive investments in industry and the military.
Finally, major debt payments throughout the year 1901 brought German public debt down to 470 million Reichsmarks. This was further helped by government measures implemented early in 1902 which brought interest rates down to 10 percent. By the end of 1902, the debt had been further paid down to about 200 million Reichsmarks, and dramatic new policy changes included tax breaks for the poorest of Germans, bringing their rates down to 45 percent. For the first time, Germany had a progressive tax policy which put most of the burden on the upper classes, and not on the general population.
And as the German federal budget improved, funds were freed up from debt service to be used for other priorities. A major effort was made to reduce corruption throughout the major cities of the Empire.
Despite the fear, distrust and hatred Kaiser Wilhelm’s policies had engendered among many major powers, Germany during these years was experiencing unprecedented growth in status, no matter how one measured it. Germany was on top of the world.
Unfortunately, Germany’s status was coveted by many. And it was bound to happen that, eventually, jealousy would overcome fear.
Around the turn of the century, under the leadership of Kaiser Wilhelm II, the Prussian military underwent a massive upgrade. Certainly, it is true, he utilized his army and navy more during his reign than his predecessors had. But this also reflected two other things.
One, Germany could no longer go on as if it were a provincial European power. It had developed a worldwide empire which it needed to protect, and it also had drawn the ire of several world powers with significant military strength. The inadequacies of Germany’s defenses had been highlighted more than once in the past, though also had its strengths. Two, as a far-flung imperial power, Germany needed to have a navy to rival, if not to eclipse, the other major naval powers of the world. Of most particular concern, of course, was the British Royal Navy, though the American and Russian navies were formidable as well.
The Imperial Navy grew dramatically, in both numbers and capabilities. Between 1895 and 1905, Prussia launched 38 new vessels – 8 transport steamers, 15 light cruisers, 9 armored cruisers, and 2 submarines. The Kriegsmarine also christened four new, impressive battleships – the SMS Kaiser Wilhelm II and SMS Prussia, launched in March of 1898, and SMS Friedrich der Grosse (aka Konig Friedrich II) and SMS Wilhelm der Grosse (aka Kaiser Wilhelm I), launched in November, 1900.
In addition, over those same years (1895 to 1905), Prussia increased the size of the Wehrmacht by 11 cavalry divisions, 26 regular infantry divisions, and another 7 divisions of native infantry composed of volunteers from Africa and China.
Also, in response to repeated concerns about troop buildups on the other side of the border, a string of fortresses was begun along the French frontier.
During these years, Germany was generally considered to be the 3rd ranked military power of the world, behind only the United States and Great Britain.
At the turn of the century, Prussia was considered by most to be the pre-eminent world power regardless of its lack of military superiority. Germany had become one of two cultural leaders, competing with the United States in this respect, and maintaining cultural leadership throughout western and central Europe, exclusive of the British Isles.
Germany was also the 3rd ranked economic power of the world, behind only the United States and Russia. She was the prime exporter of many commodities, including:
Military Supplies: Explosives, Ammunition
Finished Products: Steel, Machine Parts, Wine, Paper, Lumber, Fertilizer
Raw Materials: Sulphur, Iron, Coal
Foodstuffs: Fruit, Cattle
New Technologies: Aeroplanes, Automobiles, Telephones
It should be noted that, for most of these items, Germany was producing 1/3 or more of world’s supply of that commodity.
The German economy was dampened, somewhat, by her substantial debt levels, which bounced back and forth between being paid off by the expanding economy, and being elevated by purchases of new military equipment, the raising of troops, or public aid to the private sector meant to further bolster German industry. At the end of 1897, Germany owed 820 million Reichsmarks in public debt. It lessened to 720 million in 1898, but rose again to 920 million in 1899 after massive investments in industry and the military.
Finally, major debt payments throughout the year 1901 brought German public debt down to 470 million Reichsmarks. This was further helped by government measures implemented early in 1902 which brought interest rates down to 10 percent. By the end of 1902, the debt had been further paid down to about 200 million Reichsmarks, and dramatic new policy changes included tax breaks for the poorest of Germans, bringing their rates down to 45 percent. For the first time, Germany had a progressive tax policy which put most of the burden on the upper classes, and not on the general population.
And as the German federal budget improved, funds were freed up from debt service to be used for other priorities. A major effort was made to reduce corruption throughout the major cities of the Empire.
Despite the fear, distrust and hatred Kaiser Wilhelm’s policies had engendered among many major powers, Germany during these years was experiencing unprecedented growth in status, no matter how one measured it. Germany was on top of the world.
Unfortunately, Germany’s status was coveted by many. And it was bound to happen that, eventually, jealousy would overcome fear.
You are making an impressive economy, Rensslaer. Excellent, for of course without a decent economy you can't have decent forces. I like this economic system. Maybe it is adjustable to EU III.
You are keeping one line of provinces free in the east. Is this to prevent some sort of troop buildup by the Russians or is it to minimize losses in case of war?
Furthermore, you're creating as nice Westwall (in Verdun ) but aren't you affraid France will attack through the Ardennes (as a reversal of may 1940)?
Lastly, will you eventually be able to build an airforce?
Thanks for the update. I hope the German people will rally quickly and enthusiastically in case of war (otherwise Wilhelm might well be doomed against the strong anti-German sentiment of your enemies).
You are keeping one line of provinces free in the east. Is this to prevent some sort of troop buildup by the Russians or is it to minimize losses in case of war?
Furthermore, you're creating as nice Westwall (in Verdun
) but aren't you affraid France will attack through the Ardennes (as a reversal of may 1940)?Lastly, will you eventually be able to build an airforce?
Thanks for the update. I hope the German people will rally quickly and enthusiastically in case of war (otherwise Wilhelm might well be doomed against the strong anti-German sentiment of your enemies).
I take it all that red means that a fair number of subjects remain stubbornly none too happy with their state? Ungrateful wretches.
The one thing about playing King of the Hill on a worldwide geopolitical stage is that sooner or later, one of the other kids on the block (or several together) are gonna make the attempt to take you off the top of the hill. And that can cause all sorts of misfortune.... BUT... it all makes for good reading material, eh?
Seems like the debt got cut fairly well there, how long ago was it that you last had so little debts? Just after the bankruptcy?
Avernite said:Seems like the debt got cut fairly well there, how long ago was it that you last had so little debts? Just after the bankruptcy?
I am quite sure you are correct!Renss
104!?! Is that really your badboy? I almost fainted just looking at that. I would've thought that every nation in the world would have been piling it on with a bb score like that. That combined with a fairly high level of debt would have cowed a player like myself. It's very impressive that Prussia is not only afloat but floating at the top. Bravo!
But enough of all this alluding, we all know a showdown is in the offing so bring on the WAR!
I almost fainted just looking at that. I would've thought that every nation in the world would have been piling it on with a bb score like that. That combined with a fairly high level of debt would have cowed a player like myself. It's very impressive that Prussia is not only afloat but floating at the top. Bravo!But enough of all this alluding, we all know a showdown is in the offing so bring on the WAR!
France and the (dreaded) SGF? just the UK? hmmm. time for an update! ! ! !Rensslaer said:
Hmmm...104? Given the hints you were dropping earlier, I had figured 120-150. Despite having a slightly lower badboy score, you're lucky you don't have a multinational tea party in Berlin right now.
Another good update. At least you're expanding the military. I have the feeling you're going to need it, and soon.
Another good update. At least you're expanding the military. I have the feeling you're going to need it, and soon.
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Setting up a great war if I've ever seen it. But Wilhelm, even with his disasterous wars, has still kept Prussia a float and strongly so. If, in fact, there is a great war, I have much faith in Prussia (and even more in our brave storyteller. )
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VERY funny!GhostWriter said:why would another great power want to attack the British? ! ? ! ? !
Almost as bad as HAVING the debt! Gladly, I was able to HALVE the debt, too!Rocketman said:
:rofl: I love your reaction. I guess I never really thought about it. This IS still my first and only full game of Victoria, so I don't know much how to compare.VILenin said:104!?! Is that really your badboy?
Stnylan, yes they aren't very grateful... But the unrest map looks a LOT greener than it used to!
I had only so many forces to put in the east, and they're largely cavalry. I figured by keeping them a little back from the border I could avoid getting them engaged right away, and be able to exploit weaknesses if need be. It's also the best defensive line I could find, with such a large, long and rough border.FlorisDeVijfde said:
Victoria won't allow attacking through other countries without giving warning -- they'd have to ask for permission to cross, and I have my settings to warn me of this. But the system doesn't allow declaring war on 2 powers at once unless they're in alliance. As for the air force, Vicky has airplanes, but no military air units. I do intend to have a couple flyboys in the story later on, though.
COMPLETELY off topic... I thought I'd post a couple of photos taken out my office window from the new job. Somehow, I'm the lowest ranking guy in the office, but I got the best view out the window! And I just found out that the same will be true of my new office when we move to the new building in about 1 week.
This is out one side of my windows -- the State Capitol building (where, incidentally, I used to work).
And this is the crane that provides me with company and entertainment during my days! I keep waiting for the guy to drop something...
But, no disasters so far!
Now, back to the war!
Iron Skull.... no comment! You will see soon enough!
Draco, I'm as surprised as you no one crashed through my borders long ago! But they all seemed to be busy with other stuff. But, really, I did have a whole string of badboy wars for a bit there -- France twice, Britain, Russia, Austria, etc. Maybe once the war has been fought they no longer hold it against you?
FJ44, yes I'm looking forward to having a larger military. And, yes.... I WILL need it!
Thank you ever so much, Coz!coz1 said:Setting up a great war if I've ever seen it. But Wilhelm, even with his disasterous wars, has still kept Prussia a float and strongly so. If, in fact, there is a great war, I have much faith in Prussia (and even more in our brave storyteller.
Enough beating around the bush... You ASK for war.... and you shall HAVE IT!VILenin said:
Starting tonight, hopefully...
The war will take a number of updates, and I'm preparing them now. It's a lot of stuff! And screenshots! Good heaven. Should be good reading, though!
Unless something goes horribly wrong, I'm hoping to have time tonight to type in my next update (from written notes, again!). Might be within a couple of hours!
Rensslaer
To give a rough reference for badboy scores, I've heard that anything over 20 is bad and likely to give you lots of grief. I would say your 104 comfortably exceeds the traditional BB range for a non-WC game. Then again, you can't argue with success. Nice views, by the way.
Then again, you can't argue with success. Nice views, by the way.
After 40, things start getting real nasty.VILenin said:To give a rough reference for badboy scores, I've heard that anything over 20 is bad and likely to give you lots of grief. I would say your 104 comfortably exceeds the traditional BB range for a non-WC game.
Rensslaer: You have a nice view from your office. Colorado State Capitol Building, eh? I have it better. I live under the shadow of the Coca-Cola building.
