Finland Monarch Table

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Actually I'd give him dip 1 as a total failure, and adm maximum 3, ignoring that he used to be an ok administrator and looking more at the fact that he had made himself so hated by being seen as a traitor that the Czar had to remove him before even a year had passed.

Actually, since he is so 'short' I'd put him as 1-1-4 in values.
I'd suggest 4-4-8 for Tolly, being minister of war and a Russian gives high mil but lower adm imho.
I agree on Stenheil

Well, he might have been able administrator, the finns that just hated him so that he didn't have long time to show his ability... 1 is a bit too rough, maybe some reasonable compromise... 4? Diplomatic 1 is ok. I just didn't want to be too rash on my scaling. So, how about 1-4-4?

Well, I don't know what Russian Ministers of War need, but it sounded that some administrative ability is good for it... But maybe 4-4-8 is more appropriate.

 

[Nikolai II]

Well, he might have been able administrator, the finns that just hated him so that he didn't have long time to show his ability... 1 is a bit too rough, maybe some reasonable compromise... 4? Diplomatic 1 is ok. I just didn't want to be too rash on my scaling. So, how about 1-4-4?

But if the finns hated him they wouldn't let him show any abilities apart from how to quell riots - and making him 1-1-4 would put him on par with other monarch that are supposed to be thoroughly disgusting and hated (Golden Horde endmonarch comes to mind)

I could strech myself to a 1-2-2, or 1-2-3 if you really must have an overpowered monarch

 

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But if the finns hated him they wouldn't let him show any abilities apart from how to quell riots - and making him 1-1-4 would put him on par with other monarch that are supposed to be thoroughly disgusting and hated (Golden Horde endmonarch comes to mind)

I could strech myself to a 1-2-2, or 1-2-3 if you really must have an overpowered monarch

Well, I usually think that monarchs should get statistics in the lines of their capablity, not their success / likedness in particular task. But if the usual way to give statistics is along their success, I say 1-2-2 is fine. He wasn't renowned as a soldier, remember.

 

[Nikolai II]

But if the usual way to give statistics is along their success, I say 1-2-2 is fine.

Success is the only method we can use to ascertain their ability, after all.

Gustav IV had an ability good enough for 4 or 5 in DIP rating, but he gets 2 since he really really hated Napoleon and refused to let realpolitik affect him in that matter..

Great, then we have a list.

Could we get some official free monarch IDs down here for our new monarch list please?

 

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or 1-2-3 if you really must have an overpowered monarch

When did 1-2-3 become overpowered? :wacko:

This is overpowered:

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 06307 }
startdate = {
year = 1611
month = october
day = 31
}
deathdate = {
year = 1632
month = november
day = 6
}
name = "Gustav II Adolf"
DIP = 9
ADM = 9
MIL = 9
dormant = no
remark = "Died in battle."
}

 

[Nikolai II]

When did 1-2-3 become overpowered? :wacko:

Overpowered can be measured as compared to what a sensible rating should be

 

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1-2-3 is still not overpowered, if I get a "1-2-3" monarch I just sit and wait for the decline, you can't really call that being overpowered