Finland joins Axis (surprisingly)

[him_15]

I am playing a typical Hungary game (patch 1.4.1 TVF+DoD, no mod) and follow WW2 historically (so no odd event happened), When Germany invades Soviet Union in 1941, Finland prompty join Axis and starts fighting the Soviet Union, which is something I have almost never seen in previous patch before, what is even more surprising is that Finland does pretty well for the Continuous war, dragging large Soviet forces and stabilise the Northern front, which helps Germany, me and Romania on the main front massively, I have to say overall I am pretty impressed. Has anyone seen this as well?

 

[Dalwin]

This has been a thing since v1.0. There have been a few threads complaining about it. The sad part is that even if you had been playing Germany you could not fix the situation by simply refusing their application to the Axis. If that happens, the Finns then ask the UK and the AI allows them into the Wallies with predictable consequences.

We fix this one in MP with a house rule saying that neither Germany or UK can accept the Finns into their faction during the Winter War. I do not know an easy way to fix it in SP.

 

[him_15]

This has been a thing since v1.0. There have been a few threads complaining about it. The sad part is that even if you had been playing Germany you could not fix the situation by simply refusing their application to the Axis. If that happens, the Finns then ask the UK and the AI allows them into the Wallies with predictable consequences.

We fix this one in MP with a house rule saying that neither Germany or UK can accept the Finns into their faction during the Winter War. I do not know an easy way to fix it in SP.

I know what you are mentioning here, but that's not the case in my game. Finland didn't join Axis during the Winter War. She joins Axis after the Winter War was concluded and right after Operation Barbarossa, which is a complete different story.

 

[Dalwin]

I know what you are mentioning here, but that's not the case in my game. Finland didn't join Axis during the Winter War. She joins Axis after the Winter War was concluded and right after Operation Barbarossa, which is a complete different story.

OK that is different, but what do you mean by after Barbarossa? Do you mean a couple of months after it has started, which is fairly similar to history?

Either way, at least it is not causing the Germans and Russians to be at war more than 2 years early.

I guess you were praising it as an improvement. Sorry if I took it as a misplaced complaint. I have not seen this one much since I mostly play MP. Whoever is playing the Soviets annexes Finland something like 98% of the time.

 

[him_15]

OK that is different, but what do you mean by after Barbarossa? Do you mean a couple of months after it has started, which is fairly similar to history?

Either way, at least it is not causing the Germans and Russians to be at war more than 2 years early.

I guess you were praising it as an improvement. Sorry if I took it as a misplaced complaint. I have not seen this one much since I mostly play MP. Whoever is playing the Soviets annexes Finland something like 98% of the time.

Sorry I didn't explain clearly enough, I meant Finland joined Axis after Barbarossa has taken action for several days, which is very similar to what happened historically.

 

[Biker1984]

I am playing a typical Hungary game (patch 1.4.1 TVF+DoD, no mod) and follow WW2 historically (so no odd event happened), When Germany invades Soviet Union in 1941, Finland prompty join Axis and starts fighting the Soviet Union, which is something I have almost never seen in previous patch before, what is even more surprising is that Finland does pretty well for the Continuous war, dragging large Soviet forces and stabilise the Northern front, which helps Germany, me and Romania on the main front massively, I have to say overall I am pretty impressed. Has anyone seen this as well?

Yes, I have seen it and this was something I complained about in the past. In all my games so far the Soviet Union will also make white peace which is also historically accurate. Regarding political events what I have seen now as the USA is that Sweden and has declared war to me in 1943 and the UK is justifying a war goal while I'm with the Allies.

 

[Corner79]

I have not seen Finland join Axis during OP Barbarosa. I play Germany frequently and try to get Finland to join Axis during fall 1941 and they always say no.

I am glad Finland is not dragging Germany and UK into war early during the winter war (which also tends to happen in late 1940 early 41 for some reason instead of late 1939) which was a major issue in V1.0 but still Finland should not be so hard to bring into Axis after Barbarosa.