Final borders between humans in MP

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I'm preparing a different scenario for GC in MP games: I defined countries and provinces, anyway so much to do yet.
I would define later also influence areas for major countries picked by humans so to understand usual claims in MP games. I'm thinking to different behaviour (and relative compensations) if there is a war for cores or a colonial war or a vile aggression by human player in the game.
For example:
expansion of OE towards Russia can be acceptable till to Astrakhan CoT? Expansion of Russia in only russian provs towards Poland-Lithuania?
Expansion of Spain in Italy towards Austria (or Venice sometimes) till Po river?
Pls, expert players, edit a reply here with any possible observation ...

 

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If Poland is not unified: Poland-Russia border runs along cultural boundary lines. If Poland is unified, they will be able to defend much better and thus prevent Russia from gaining ground.

Denmark-Sweden border doesnt move much. England-France border doesnt move except Calais usually falls to France (primarily because England gives it away almost for free, I find. My England always fights to keep Calais. Austria-OE border depends on how the annexation of Hungary goes. Venice usually surrenders Ionia, but a player Venice can hold the other islands pretty well unless Austria conspires against them too. Spain and France both want to have Rousillon/Bearn to create a 2-prov chokepoint against the other. Where the border is depends on who wins the wars.

Austria-France usually face each other across the Rhine river. This may be more to do with the river-crossing-penalty than culture actually. I dunno exactly why that is. Brandenburg and Austria usually meet along the border of Protestantism and Catholicism (Northern Bohemia, Saxony, etc). Poland and Brandenburg fight over Danzig and Poznan (and of course Prussia). But that border is highly dependent upon which side has more allies usually.

OE-Russia border varies the most. OE wants Crimea, Russia wants Georgia. It is a strange border. OE usually leaves Astrakhan to Russia because they know if they hold it Russia will always be conspiring against them.

In general, people tend to make border decisions based on these criteria.

1. Will this province be profitable to me? Is it worth fighting over?

2. If I take this province, will I be able to defend it over the long term? Or will it make the other guy hate me so much I will have to pay for war after war after war to defend it? In the latter case, I dont want the expense except for extremely valuable provinces (COTs, high base tax-same culture, etc).

3. Is this province able to be supported by multiple other provinces? If it only connects to one other province I own, it will be hard for me to station reserve armies to protect it.

4. Will this make my border look clean? I know that sounds stupid, but some people dont want a strangely shaped province on their border simply because it breaks the "beauty" of their border line. Think Poland + Moldova

 

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Thx very much, I'll start writing those notes.
Could you write an edit for this observations:

BB wants Prussia for historical event and DoWs Poland wanting Danzig CoT too ...
OE wants Morocco and DoWs Spain or Portugal for Sahara and Songhai ...
Everybody wants in NL near 1500 a perm, but in the game everyone DoWs him: Austria or France for border provs, Portugal or Sweden for trade, ...
The St. Lawrence river as border of colonization in N America: up lands to France, down lands to England
Why not an usual perm in Persia or Mughals to balance OE in Middle East? Otherwise fun wars in the game with OE as AI ...
Battle of Lepanto: SPA-VEN-AUT vs OE never seen in MP games ...

Thx for lost time

 

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Humans' areas map

I'll edit a painted Europe with usual humans occupied areas:
Austria, Spain, OE, France, Portugal, Russia, suggest me other colours for other nations ...

 

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France should be #'s: 375-6, 379, 382-7, 405-26. Brandenburg should be #'s: 289-90, 301-2, 304-6, 310-14, 331-6. Also, I think OE should be light green, and, instead, England red.

EDIT: Oh, and I just noticed this, but Kleves and Mainz have the same #: 343.

 

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4. Will this make my border look clean? I know that sounds stupid, but some people dont want a strangely shaped province on their border simply because it breaks the "beauty" of their border line. Think Poland + Moldova

That´s the biggest thing for me Your borders have to be pretty too look at, I hate Austria, Poland, OE those countries that have weird borders flung all over the place...yuck.

 

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That's why I love france, the Rhine is such a pretty border.