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as the title states how can i make this work? i know you can go from tribal to merchant republic but i dont want to start off as tribal. i have tried the console command to change myself to one but it instantly end my games because "you cannot play as a republic" it says this for merchant republics and republics even though i have the DLC for it.
 

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I don't think it's possible without mods. There used to be complex schenanigans that could turn you into a republic but I doubt they still work.
I didn't checked - doesn't "set_government_type = merchant_republic_government" work this days?
 

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I don't think it's possible without mods. There used to be complex schenanigans that could turn you into a republic but I doubt they still work.
I think it's technically possible as you can go from feudal to tribal (by inheriting a tribal title higher than yours, or by giving your heir a tribal title at last as high as yours and having him inherit) and then from tribal to republic.

thats what i did. i did both republic and merchant republic neither works it forced quit me because "you cannot play as a republic"
Are you a count? You need to be duke or above to be a merchant republic.
 

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thats what i did. i did both republic and merchant republic neither works it forced quit me because "you cannot play as a republic"
Have you "The Republic" DLC?
 

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I doubt this was it but was your Capital along the coast?
i just tried it again to make sure that was the case cause mabye i didnt have it along the coast and i did it as the emir/duke of alexandria and it did not work, i gave myself a king title and that also did not work. it still says i have become a republic and cannot continue playing
 

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What if give your only heir a city and then a coastal duchy, when you die don't you become a republic?
 

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What if give your only heir a city and then a coastal duchy, when you die don't you become a republic?

More likely you become a regular republic and it's game over. The problem here is that it takes a moment for the new merchant republic to generate the families, palaces etc. and during that moment you're a regular republic for a second and it ends the game. It's easiest to just use those mods.
 

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I used this mod recently and it perfectly worked. I did not tried it with the last patch and The Reaper's Due tho. And I don't know if it is Ironman compatible.

Yeah, no way it's ironman compatible. Generally only localization and graphics mods are.
 

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More likely you become a regular republic and it's game over. The problem here is that it takes a moment for the new merchant republic to generate the families, palaces etc. and during that moment you're a regular republic for a second and it ends the game. It's easiest to just use those mods.

But isnt all that stuff already generated when you inherit?
 

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I know the mechanics for creating merchant republics but I don't know if you inherit them.

Step 1: Either revoke a city or build a city so you can give the city to someone
Step 2: Grant this city to a claimant of a coastal duchy outside your realm
Step 3: Push the claim on the coastal duchy

Now, a merchant republic will be created including patrician families. Maybe if your son has this claim on a coastal duchy outside your realm you can play as the merchant republic but I'm not sure. Something that may be more reliable:

Step 4: Grant independence to everyone until you're back to being a count
Step 5: Die and continue playing as your son who will add the county to his merchant republic

If you inherit a kingdom and a merchant republic you probably won't play as the merchant republic... right?
 

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But isnt all that stuff already generated when you inherit?

I don't a merchant prince can inherit feudal titles, at least if they're not the liege.
 

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Gave my son the City and county of Lübeck, then gave him the Duchy of Holstein to create a republic. Died, became a republic.
I had no idea that something this simple could work. If I had, I would have used that instead of the mod. Well, in the end it does not make much difference for me but I'll try it out someday.

There is also this gamey trick which is far more complex (if it still work in the new patch):
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...republic-in-ironman-from-feudal-start.917238/
 

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I had no idea that something this simple could work. If I had, I would have used that instead of the mod. Well, in the end it does not make much difference for me but I'll try it out someday.

There is also this gamey trick which is far more complex (if it still work in the new patch):
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...republic-in-ironman-from-feudal-start.917238/

Tried it again, except this time I had more than one son.

Republic disbanded and he became feudal.

Tried again, and he was passed over in favour of second son. :confused:

Seems it works sometimes, sometimes not. I think the best case scenario is where you have only one son with primogeniture which leads to him being forced to being your heir.