- May 26, 2007
Note that "not excessively many" for Catalunya is probably "more than the Khanate could have built in two decades".
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Hmmm. A mighty nation defeated, its overseas territories divided up but its core remaining mostly in its hands - enough taken to ensure the wound rankles, but not enough to cripple the country? Large ethnic populations of the loser apportioned among weak, newly formed neighboring states? Treaty-mandated military limitations (on nukes) that are foreseen to be unenforceable? And you peaceniks have ended without even a single nuking, so while sober-minded scientists may understand the bomb's danger, there is no Hiroshima or Nagasaki to impress its terrible power upon politicians and the general populace, meaning that any future belligerent power faces a much lower barrier to kicking off a worldwide nuclear exchange?I'm glad you envision a more peaceful world. I would like to think that is the way it would go.
I might misremember, but I'm pretty sure there were hardly any Greeks left in Anatolia by the time AOD rolled around. Maybe a hundred thousand or two? I know more than half of it had already culture-flipped even by the end of eu3. The Ethiopian administration would likely have promoted them however and tried to coopt them, in a fashion similar to the Ottomans in the Balkans IRL - and there are a lot friendlier historical ties between Greeks and Ethiopians than between Persians and Ethiopians - as a tool to control the larger Persian/Arabic population, so you might find those that do remain very influential. I think a Greekish elite and an Arab/Persian underclass would be plausible.(In this timeline, Anatolia is still largely Greek in ethnicity, although converted to Islam.)
Hum. The fact that the Greeks were traditionally linked to Persia's arch-enemy Croatia (being an accepted culture of the latter all through eu3 and v2) and that Persia lost them as an accepted culture at some point relatively early in eu3 makes it seem unlikely to me that they enjoyed any particularly high influence in late Persian Anatolia. The situation you speak of is likely soon after the conquest; but half a millennium of societal change, industrial revolution, and constant warfare with the Greco-Croats later, in a world where successful peoples have multiplied and spread beyond the wildest dreams of the medieval imagination, is the situation in Anatolia really just the same as it was in 1399, with entrenched Greek aristocrats and foreign Persians?My feeling is that EU3 culture-flips are modelling the top layers of the population, and that the peasantry would still be largely Greek-speaking. Basically I think that neither the CK nor the EU3 models of culture are really fine-grained enough to properly model this sort of history, and so I basically ignore the gameplay here and go with what I feel would happen. At any rate the Persians of this history never practiced the sort of ethnic cleansing that the Turks did in ours. The Turks didn't really understand trading and urban economies, and smashed Greek Anatolia as much from ignorance as from intent. The Persians did understand cities, wanted to take over a functioning and wealthy area, and co-opted the existing rulership structure (apart from a few thousand insignificant refugee holdouts, that is) rather than destroy it. The "Komnenoi" of Anatolia may well be more numerous than those of New Byzantium!
Arabia would be a Catalan-influenced vassal. In exchange for policy adjustments (i.e. democratization) and strengthening of Catalan-Ethiopian economic ties, which sadly went the wrong way with the post-Irsh administration, I'm sure a mutually beneficial plebiscite can be arranged.Arabia though is right next door to Gonder, populous, industrious, and almost 100% ethnically Ethiopian. Parts of it were core heartland territory dating from Ethiopia's eu3 start. It is also under the rule of a minor power which will be required to repress that large majority of its population to survive. I think that would be the Sudetenland (or the Danzig) if anything, not Australia. Speaking as the (former) incarnation of Ethiopian national sentiment: I think it's very likely that once it gets its hands on mass nukes, perhaps after a truce of twenty years or so, it would - if those lands were unrecoverable by peaceful means a la Munich - initiate nuclear Armageddon in an attempt to regain them. Even if it had no real hope of ultimately winning the war (as OTL Germany probably didn't).
Heh. It might be cool if Arabia were nuclear-Munich and then Jerusalem nuclear-Danzig.
Unlikely or not, that's the canon of this AAR. Observe that as late as 1863, a Komnenos is an officer in the Persian army, and Lysandros observes that the surname is "common in Anatolia among the landowning class".Hum. The fact that the Greeks were traditionally linked to Persia's arch-enemy Croatia (being an accepted culture of the latter all through eu3 and v2) and that Persia lost them as an accepted culture at some point relatively early in eu3 makes it seem unlikely to me that they enjoyed any particularly high influence in late Persian Anatolia.
What? Diplomacy aimed at finding a reasonable, livable compromise? We can't have this sort of thing going on!Arabia would be a Catalan-influenced vassal. In exchange for policy adjustments (i.e. democratization) and strengthening of Catalan-Ethiopian economic ties, which sadly went the wrong way with the post-Irsh administration, I'm sure a mutually beneficial plebiscite can be arranged.