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Who's at war with whoom at the moment? And who's allied to whoom? Anybody still puppeted?
Any major happenings yesterday?
Any major happenings yesterday?
And it's the rest of the world complaining about that bed, not me
. That's the beauty of it; in order to get us to split, you'd have to offer one of us something better than what we have now - and we're in a pretty good position already.Russia is a puppet of Ethiopia.
No, no major happenings. The Eastern front has stabilized (it being winter tends to help), on the Central Asian front it takes two dog-damned months to walk from one 3 infra mountain province to the next.
Oh, California took Java and Sumatra. That was nice.
And it's the rest of the world complaining about that bed, not me
I agree with Oddman. The reason these perma-alliances don't break up is because it isn't really even possible to offer something better.
Look at the only such alliance that actually did break up permanently - the Asian one. KOM was offered very nearly the entirety of China to betray his ally. And I hear he considers it a mistake to have done so. (I do think it was a mistake of mine - I had hopes for KOM to do a lot better out of that deal than he did in the end).
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I blame two things:
1) That the annexing of player nations has decreased the number of nations to the point we have a stagnant diplomatic scene of where nations can't be wooed from other alliances. I can't be wooed from Africa because Germany is too strong to the point that if Africa looses I'm next.
2) That back in the day we DID have lots of player nations the willingness of the more versatile players to drop alliances pretty much signaled to the person getting dropped of "Hey, this guy isn't trustworthy anymore. Lets partition him with another guy." Which leads to 2(b) VonR and Elcyion who were the most egregious in that machiavellian powerplay that would rapidly deplete the roster. It was however slightly better back when they were BOTH here because they tended to balance each other.
1) That the annexing of player nations has decreased the number of nations to the point we have a stagnant diplomatic scene of where nations can't be wooed from other alliances. I can't be wooed from Africa because Germany is too strong to the point that if Africa looses I'm next.
2) That back in the day we DID have lots of player nations the willingness of the more versatile players to drop alliances pretty much signaled to the person getting dropped of "Hey, this guy isn't trustworthy anymore. Lets partition him with another guy." Which leads to 2(b) VonR and Elcyion who were the most egregious in that machiavellian powerplay that would rapidly deplete the roster. It was however slightly better back when they were BOTH here because they tended to balance each other.
In purely game-mechanical terms, yes, I would clearly have been in a stronger position if China was a reliable ally with cores on an industry that would have converted much stronger. However, man does not live by IC alone. There's such a thing as revenge on the cursed Communists that killed your sister and burned your ancestral mansion. Not to mention the pleasure of painting the map purple and uniting Eagle and Dragon under one banner.
One could also argue that your current allies are at least several shades less psychotic and more reasonable, if not (yet) as close.
Certainly less loud.
Says the man who has been best buddies with Communist Germany since then.
But yes, I hear you and that's why I love you! It was easily the most awesome AAR moment in the last two centuries of the game for me. But I also never expected Mongolia to emerge as weak as it did from the conquest of China, and I know the other major alliances took those events as a cautionary tale.
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Though ultimately the real reason you didn't benefit was because you were laissez faire in a game that is so outrageously buggy and operating from incorrect first principles that your punished for the choice in every situation. You should have had at least one party that was state capitalist and pro military.
If KoM was State Capitalist, then he would be a major and Punjab/Russia would be boned. If only...
My prediction for a winner(I feel it's late enough to predict,) is either Catalonia or whichever African can either get the most out of Germany or hit the other one in a surprise attack and annex all of Africa.
Japan is screwed because it just can't stand up to the Americans' navies.
KoM just doesn't have the industry to take the continent.
Punjab is doomed to either be annexed by Ethiopia or Americans/KoM.
Russia has already lost.
California just can't compete with Catalonia. Even in a surprise attack, the front would be much too limited to strike a death blow.
And finally Germany has sustained too many losses and taken to much damage to its homeland to compete with the perfectly heathy(and overseas) economy.
Catalonia is the America of this world, and Ethiopia and Congo are two SUs.
My prediction for a winner(I feel it's late enough to predict,) is either Catalonia or whichever African can either get the most out of Germany or hit the other one in a surprise attack and annex all of Africa.
Japan is screwed because it just can't stand up to the Americans' navies.
KoM just doesn't have the industry to take the continent.
Punjab is doomed to either be annexed by Ethiopia or Americans/KoM.
Russia has already lost.
California just can't compete with Catalonia. Even in a surprise attack, the front would be much too limited to strike a death blow.
And finally Germany has sustained too many losses and taken to much damage to its homeland to compete with the perfectly heathy(and overseas) economy.
Catalonia is the America of this world, and Ethiopia and Congo are two SUs.
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*Blink* far from it, I'm an equal partner and this alliance and will get a fair share off of Germany.
it will be a sad day when there is no Muslim nation to enforce there divine right upon Punjab's lands.
It looks pretty clear to me that Russia will, indeed, share equally in the fate of its alliance.
In the meantime, have a mupdate.
In the meantime, have a mupdate.
I think the alliances are pretty much set in the stone by now. Japan migth be the nation to make considerable differences, but otherwise its rather clear why each nations are allied to each others.
As for Africa, If nations have been allied since the day 1 from Eu3, its clear at by this point they've devolved so that they cannot live without each other anymore. At somepoint me and Jodokus thougth that why not merge the nations, but Its actually more cost effective to keep them seperated so Kongo can focus on the quantativy and Ethiopia to Quality. In perfect world Africa would be nice theather to figth against each others, but not when there are Catalunia and Germany with 700 IC both near by.
Russia naturally has no choise but to ally itself with Africa, since Germany could not defend it from us as long as we have Punjab on ourside. Punjab in otherhand has choosen the right club, and has behaved expectionally well as minor partner should and has been rewarded accordingly.
As for Germany+Catalunia... well, they have also remained allied or atleast Perma-NAPed since eu3 and when the trust issue between me and them is what it is (the Plan B schame was pure 1 to 1 payback from my last days as Persian player during eu3... You don't send my chattlogs to others without punishment )
I see no alternative than war to the end. And to the end we plan to take this, one way or another. Only 300 IC strong Germany I can accept next to me, nothing stronger. No Germany would be best naturally.
As for Asia.. KOM is more of a nuisance than mortal enemy, Only he is also one whith You really cannot make long lasting agreements, only geostrategicall arrangments, and unfortuanetly those are really odds with us.
California is naturally huge dissapointment, of all the broken promises and expectations from this game only! Naturally He wants Ethiopian Asia...but it speaks lot that he dares only take those lands which were undefended. All claims he has he can come present them in Gonder personally, otherwise he can occupy what he wants, and once we are done with Germany, We will drive him away and wont stop untill proper reparations have been settled.
As for Africa, If nations have been allied since the day 1 from Eu3, its clear at by this point they've devolved so that they cannot live without each other anymore. At somepoint me and Jodokus thougth that why not merge the nations, but Its actually more cost effective to keep them seperated so Kongo can focus on the quantativy and Ethiopia to Quality. In perfect world Africa would be nice theather to figth against each others, but not when there are Catalunia and Germany with 700 IC both near by.
Russia naturally has no choise but to ally itself with Africa, since Germany could not defend it from us as long as we have Punjab on ourside. Punjab in otherhand has choosen the right club, and has behaved expectionally well as minor partner should and has been rewarded accordingly.
As for Germany+Catalunia... well, they have also remained allied or atleast Perma-NAPed since eu3 and when the trust issue between me and them is what it is (the Plan B schame was pure 1 to 1 payback from my last days as Persian player during eu3... You don't send my chattlogs to others without punishment
) I see no alternative than war to the end. And to the end we plan to take this, one way or another. Only 300 IC strong Germany I can accept next to me, nothing stronger. No Germany would be best naturally.
As for Asia.. KOM is more of a nuisance than mortal enemy, Only he is also one whith You really cannot make long lasting agreements, only geostrategicall arrangments, and unfortuanetly those are really odds with us.
California is naturally huge dissapointment, of all the broken promises and expectations from this game only! Naturally He wants Ethiopian Asia...but it speaks lot that he dares only take those lands which were undefended. All claims he has he can come present them in Gonder personally, otherwise he can occupy what he wants, and once we are done with Germany, We will drive him away and wont stop untill proper reparations have been settled.
To answer the peanut question: The two African powers, allied with Punjab and their vassal Russia, are at war with Germany, the American powers, and the Khanate. Japan is behaving somewhat strangely: It is in the African alliance, but after some rough handling has stopped its attacks in Korea and unilaterally pulled back to the prewar border. (The similarities to Khalkin Gol in OTL are interesting.) However, there are Japanese "volunteers" in Thailand, "aiding the Punjabi experiment in independence". The Khanate is in a sense glad to see these troops: In 1936 I expected I'd be facing a lot of mechanised troops, so I built quite a few AT brigades, which haven't really had good targets fighting the infantry armies of Punjab. The Japanese tanks, if you call them that - my troops call them "one-shot fireboxes" - offer the AT guns a chance to shine. However, my gladness goes only so far.
The main front, as usual, is in Europe: Notice on the map that the African troops have chopped German Russia into several pieces. Since there are no actual troops there this helps them only so much, but it sure looks impressive. Further west there seems to be the usual meatgrinder. California is concentrating on the Pacific; note the occupation of Indonesia. Catalunya has won a major naval battle and is shipping troops to Europe, again. The Khanate, while obviously not relaxing its vigilance on the Korean front - we haven't even got a peace treaty with Japan this time! - has nonetheless got its main striking force back to the west and is pushing back the Punjabi incursions. Fighting in the Tibetan mountains is sloooow. The mountains and snow are bad enough, and the Punjabi demolitions teams have by now got a lot of practice; anywhere there's been fighting, the infra is in the single digits. We're talking three months to move infantry a single province. Blitzkrieg it's not. The I Komnenoi is doing its usual excellent job of advancing towards Frunze; perhaps they can take it before the Great Powers insist on another ceasefire, this time. Further north, on the steppe front, supply difficulties have given Punjab the advantage, but then again there is very little worth having in that area, anyway, and the troop deployments reflect the fact. You haven't seen skirmishing until you've seen a cavalry division drive off two militia divisions while both sides take more casualties from attrition than battle. Nonetheless Punjab is in fact pushing me back on this front, and at the current rate will reach the Pacific sometime in 1953.
The main front, as usual, is in Europe: Notice on the map that the African troops have chopped German Russia into several pieces. Since there are no actual troops there this helps them only so much, but it sure looks impressive. Further west there seems to be the usual meatgrinder. California is concentrating on the Pacific; note the occupation of Indonesia. Catalunya has won a major naval battle and is shipping troops to Europe, again. The Khanate, while obviously not relaxing its vigilance on the Korean front - we haven't even got a peace treaty with Japan this time! - has nonetheless got its main striking force back to the west and is pushing back the Punjabi incursions. Fighting in the Tibetan mountains is sloooow. The mountains and snow are bad enough, and the Punjabi demolitions teams have by now got a lot of practice; anywhere there's been fighting, the infra is in the single digits. We're talking three months to move infantry a single province. Blitzkrieg it's not. The I Komnenoi is doing its usual excellent job of advancing towards Frunze; perhaps they can take it before the Great Powers insist on another ceasefire, this time. Further north, on the steppe front, supply difficulties have given Punjab the advantage, but then again there is very little worth having in that area, anyway, and the troop deployments reflect the fact. You haven't seen skirmishing until you've seen a cavalry division drive off two militia divisions while both sides take more casualties from attrition than battle. Nonetheless Punjab is in fact pushing me back on this front, and at the current rate will reach the Pacific sometime in 1953.
Actually you had the militia. The cavalry were mine. Still, as you say, not just any cavalry, but nomad tribesmen! They have exchanged compound bows for carbine rifles, but they are still the deadliest mounted shots in the world. Soon they will sweep across the Urals under the Eagle-and-Horsetail banner, and Europe will once more pray to be delivered from their wrath.
Some screenies of the fighting with Punjab. The aforementioned steppe front:
As you can see, nobody considers this a high priority. Further south it's another matter. In the initial stages of the war, with most of my army in the east containing the Anshan landing and the attempted breakout from Korea, Punjab launched an attack with its elite troops which reached the important industrial city of Urumqi and devastated it. Then my army came back from its victory in Korea, and the character of the fighting changed, from hard-fought retreat to bloody stand:
Notice the militia in that attack on the southern front. That was, of course, well enough for driving back my border guard, which was there to keep order and ensure that southern China wasn't taken by two cavalry divisions and a biplane. Trying to shift the 5th Red Banner Army under general Mao was something else again.
Then the panzers and the mountain troops arrived, and I shifted from defense to counterattack:
Here Mark is desperately trying to hold the strategically important province of Gertse until reinforcements can arrive - even to the point of chewing up his best troops by demanding that not an inch of ground be given. Notice the fantastically lopsided casualty ratio in the left result popup. That's what happens when even well-equipped mountain troops try to hold a province against three times their number, with no air support and fanatic mullahs making sure nobody even suggests retreat. Likewise, in Kashgar the I Komnenoi just brushed aside Punjab's outgunned infantry.
As you can see, nobody considers this a high priority. Further south it's another matter. In the initial stages of the war, with most of my army in the east containing the Anshan landing and the attempted breakout from Korea, Punjab launched an attack with its elite troops which reached the important industrial city of Urumqi and devastated it. Then my army came back from its victory in Korea, and the character of the fighting changed, from hard-fought retreat to bloody stand:
Notice the militia in that attack on the southern front. That was, of course, well enough for driving back my border guard, which was there to keep order and ensure that southern China wasn't taken by two cavalry divisions and a biplane. Trying to shift the 5th Red Banner Army under general Mao was something else again.
Then the panzers and the mountain troops arrived, and I shifted from defense to counterattack:
Here Mark is desperately trying to hold the strategically important province of Gertse until reinforcements can arrive - even to the point of chewing up his best troops by demanding that not an inch of ground be given. Notice the fantastically lopsided casualty ratio in the left result popup. That's what happens when even well-equipped mountain troops try to hold a province against three times their number, with no air support and fanatic mullahs making sure nobody even suggests retreat. Likewise, in Kashgar the I Komnenoi just brushed aside Punjab's outgunned infantry.