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Not much happened, I launched an offencive into East Germany from Poland and made no headway other than to reduce the province I attacked to the stone age, shot down sme German bombers and the citizens Danish militia is bravely defending copenhagen from Spanish Paras who were making headway before but they are not hold up within buildings and slowly being annihilated.

My radar techies didnt get to spot anything yet :(

Russian missiles were fired en mass across the border, didnt damage any of the airfields I was hoping to but they did manage to help flatten said province above down to 5%, not a good place to defend anymore with the presumably slow re-org rate.
 

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Well, the Khanate is obviously pleased at having no active fighting on the Korean border, although I assure everyone that this time we are not letting our guard down. Fool me once, and so on. I think there may have been some wailing and gnashing of teeth in Africa (actually, can you gnash teeth that have been filed to points?) but who cares about their opinion? And anyway what are they going to do about it, nuke Hiroshima? (Side note: The Japanese capital in this history is in the AoD province named Hiroshima. Which is just begging for it, if you ask me. I'd have requested an edit-move of the capital to Tokyo, if I were playing it.)

I think, in hindsight, that for the Africans to peace out to save Japan from destruction was a mistake, if an understandable one since it had a new player. They should probably have crushed Germany, or at least taken their best stab at it, when they had troops in the Alps. Now they have to fight their way through Eastern Europe. On the other hand, they did gain the mountainous Balkans without having to take them province by province, so perhaps they are ahead on the deal? At any rate they certainly have some defensive depth before the German armies are even in Anatolia, much less Africa.
 

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No, your right, we should have demanded France and if Germany refused, welp, annexation time. We were poised to encircle over 100 German divisions that he had no means of preventing due to AoD mechanics (essentially I attack the moldavian provinces with spoilers on VoV to keep them from moving, my tanks arrive behind and cut them off, stacking penalties mean they can't break out and you NEED a port to supply overseas and they lacked any on the Black sea).

So the entire balkans would've been open anyways with only a mad scramble left for oddman to pull back to Germany to hold the same line we're at now... but with half the field troops they have in Europe now, significantly out of org, and dearly in need of reinforcements of their strength.

No wonder Germany agreed to give up the crappier half of his country.
 

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Japan was sort of semi-fooled into our cause with a treaty, that Russia rather dodgily manouvred trough and that treaty costed Africa more than it could have at any point manage to salvage. Japan was in state of destrcution by time Migthy took over and basicly nothing was to be done there. In cruel realpolitiks it was certain that americans would have been able to force Japan into peace rather quickly and that would have opened americans and Komgolians freedom to turn all their asian troops against Punjab and India, and propably force Japanese troops along them as well. Punjab could have not counter such force with out us taking troops from the western front.
In the end, we migth have been able to gamble it for the destruction of Germany, but I myself doupted our changes. Fivoin migth be "noobish", but certainly he is good enough player not to be underestimated so to assume we could have been able to destroy his armies with the ease Blayne descriped (with similar optimism he tried to sell his point to us during the weeks before the session). We had the keys to strategical victory and had the war continued, with no doupt we could have pushed the front westwards, but again it was not a breaktrough that would have leaved Germany defensless. Also our incrusion to Italy was lot harder to sustain than perhaps we opted for (it was another gamble that allowed us intiative in the mainfront)... Apparently spain had reserves in the spanish-proper not yet appeared on our screens and with some wit, they migth have even been able to completely destroy us there. Lot of damage was done to that front when I foolishly led the former japanese player to try to do single unit dashes in order to gain some ground, when I should have focused rigth on for building defensive positions in the Alps. well live and learn.


As for the current war, I retain my positions for not to revial anything... I will try to tell what we did and what we planned after the war is over. but if people want perspective for the war, the African position is clear, We just cannot exist when there is 600 IC germany next to us, building nukes, harbouring our grand-strategical enemies on his soil and plotting our destruction. Naturally peace and co-existence would be nice, but it has not been given any chanche and as smaller alliance, we don't have luxury to set iddle and wait how Germany-spanish alliance build itself up into un-breakable state and effectively winning the game for them. Either we succeed to bring ballance or die trying it.
 

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well dont see him as angry and departed friend with slammed doors, rather consider him as our badly alcoholistic uncle who just needs to spend some time in the rehab center before he can come back and throw ball with you...
 

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Punjab misses there buddy japan :(

I'm sure you do, but observe that I'm fighting the Tibetan and Burmese fronts with the units I had committed there in peacetime, when I thought I might be facing a two-front war. The Korean and Chinese Strategic Reserves are sitting right where they were on the outbreak of war, ready for treachery.

If it makes you feel better, your interceptors won a signal victory over Frunze when I sent the Athena Squadron (comprising my most modern TAC wings) to bomb the airstrip there, on the assumption that you didn't have any fighter cover. Fifty percent casualties, ouch. Of course, that does rather remind me of the old joke, where two Soviet generals are talking in a cafe in Paris. "By the way," one of them says, "who won the air war?"
 

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I`m afraid I don`t quite get the joke, my understanding of the military-logistical planning for the Cold War went something along the lines that NATO absolutely relied on its air arm to have any hope to inconveniencing the GSFG advance through the Fulda gap. If NATO won the airwar and gained air supremacy in the first 1-3 days then the Soviets would not have been able to meet their operation goals of reaching the Weser before NATO initiated nuclear release.


Japan was sort of semi-fooled into our cause with a treaty, that Russia rather dodgily manouvred trough and that treaty costed Africa more than it could have at any point manage to salvage.

Not true, Falador told me he would likely attack Africa for Indonesia, I asked him "Well what if we offered it to you in exchange for you helping us win or lose? He said yes. I went and proposed this to you, if anyone was fooled it was you as I neglected to mention Japan was actually going to attack you for it, figuring you would refuse on principle and be like "Let him come and take it!".

Next it gained us quite a bit, firstly lots of blue prints, secondly it gave Dano an excuse to go into Asia instead of facing us in the Pacific, remember the course of events is that he landed a small number of troops unopposed onto Oz. Japan then intercepted those for us which made Dano focus full force, diverting a sizeable number of Spanish carriers and eventually the German BB fleet to the pacific to face Japan.

Was Japan losing? Sure! Falador made a lot of mistakes with his fleets, I would've fought the war entirely differently. Most importantly I would've have been building IC, which Falador insisted on doing even when I told him that he should stop. However this doesn't mean bringing Japan in was a bad idea, if it was you NEVER would have agreed, you were NEVER "tricked" I am not that persuasive and I would kindly ask you to stop blaming me for it. Japan's entry with proper planning and a intelligently thought through build queue and Japan could have easily had comparable number of carriers and plenty of submarines.

120 Submarines would have easily kept Dano from taking 90% of what he took and made Australia expensive to take all things considered, 12 modern carriers would've gave Dano a bloody nose and blunted Oddman's willingness to send out his carriers against superior Japanese battleships. In theory, nothing potentially stopped Japan from being significantly more challenging foe given the distances involved despite the IC imbalanced since afterall, Oddman significantly invested in land forces evenly.

Japan was in state of destrcution by time Migthy took over and basicly nothing was to be done there. In cruel realpolitiks it was certain that americans would have been able to force Japan into peace rather quickly and that would have opened americans and Komgolians freedom to turn all their asian troops against Punjab and India, and propably force Japanese troops along them as well. Punjab could have not counter such force with out us taking troops from the western front.

I call bull here, 5% of the forces on the Eastern front would've been sufficient to significantly slow down any Mongolian-Japanese advance into us, plus the terrain would've easily allowed us to trade space for time; at the stage of our operations in Europe at the time these forces could've been spared and redeployed given some reshuffling time once the front stablized again.

In the end, we migth have been able to gamble it for the destruction of Germany, but I myself doupted our changes.

War is a military science, very little of it is actually up to chance. Its time tables and logistics.

Fivoin migth be "noobish", but certainly he is good enough player not to be underestimated so to assume we could have been able to destroy his armies with the ease Blayne descriped (with similar optimism he tried to sell his point to us during the weeks before the session).

Neither fivoin or Oddman have any strategic brilliance or imagination, this is an overwhelming fact given their mutual underwhelming performance, at that point in the war their actions were easily surmissable and accounted for, war is part psychology and understanding your enemy's capability for action. I can state with 100% certainty I could encircle his forces because it is essentially a scientific fact, his infantry frankly would not have been able to move, that is a fact of AoD game design as it prevents you from retreated for a few hours, meaning I can get to his rear first, and then the rest of AoD mechanics take over one after another such as stacking penalties.

There was strong signals of such when Fivoin did the unthinkable as Germany and built 90% infantry when he went down the German warfare tree and no mountain divisions... Despite the fact that he knew he was going to be fighting in the Balkans.

Psychology comes in when we consider that its fairly obvious given the relatively 50-50% of the enemy forces into two homogenous armies means they will in the thick of the action lead to inevitable breakdowns in communications and indecision, to be overcome by a degree of panic and urgency. Fivoin seeing his forces about to be encircled would almost certainly attempt a breakthrough, likely trying to use larger forces against what he percieves to be smaller forces; since AoD has stacking penalties its means the tanks under my campaign hold their ground while I shift reinforcements into the threatened sector, as they would not have the faculties to launch simultanious attacks to break out at all points; even if he did I could flank attack from the Ukrainian forces and little down their overall organization that much faster.

Nothing in war is easy, it would have been a struggle and likely very close call, as Mighty G in his strategic ignorence intended instead to use our hard won breakthrough as a bluff and actually wanted to fight Oddman's 40 division stack up in Glebecky head on and "roll up the front from the north" which is delusional thinking and wouldn't have worked without tanks which were down in the south. Winter has its disadvantages but winter isnt so disadvantages that 70 infantry leg divisions can win against 40 in AoD.

As such the Order of battle wasn't one best suited for breakthrough warfare, he had my militia on the attack when they shouldve been shuffled with artillery infantry on quieter sectors (such as the north, where I had given up on and was busy performing maskirovka) and had not enough forces in forward positions.

Also not helped by the fact that you and jodokus continuously dissed my operational planning to exploit the breakthrough and refused to make any preparations that would've made it a certain victory.

Remember how I was equally certain we could hold against Oddman and Fivoin and not need to retreat to the Dniper river? Who was right in the end?

We had superior numbers in all categories, were fighting from superior supply lines (Germany and Oddman were overextended) despite scarily effective German bombing. The German armor was busy fighting you ineffectually in the Alps, we had every factor in favor of our success.

We had the keys to strategical victory and had the war continued, with no doupt we could have pushed the front westwards, but again it was not a breaktrough that would have leaved Germany defensless. Also our incrusion to Italy was lot harder to sustain than perhaps we opted for (it was another gamble that allowed us intiative in the mainfront)... Apparently spain had reserves in the spanish-proper not yet appeared on our screens and with some wit, they migth have even been able to completely destroy us there. Lot of damage was done to that front when I foolishly led the former japanese player to try to do single unit dashes in order to gain some ground, when I should have focused rigth on for building defensive positions in the Alps. well live and learn.

War is not supposed to be about "pushing" the enemy, doing so is only ever a sign of desperation.

Not enough to push you out of Italy once the slow infantry in southern italy legged it up north and wrongly positioned to do a damn in the east where the real war was being fought.

A loss of 100 German divisions (counting the 24 he had stuck on garrison duty at Instanbul) would have entirely ripped open the front, it doesn't matter if German is "open" or not, what matters is that it strategically dislocates the enemy and forces them to perform triag, shuffling troops around and unable to timely react to your movements in an effectual manner, keeping them off balance is more important than actually winning battles or taking territory. Once you force the enemy to react to you and respond to your initiative your several steps closer to winning; for example he would likely either forget about his Instanbul garrison during the chaos or through them carelessly north, letting you have a chance to breakout and join me with another 30 divisions.

As for the current war, I retain my positions for not to revial anything... I will try to tell what we did and what we planned after the war is over. but if people want perspective for the war, the African position is clear, We just cannot exist when there is 600 IC germany next to us, building nukes, harbouring our grand-strategical enemies on his soil and plotting our destruction. Naturally peace and co-existence would be nice, but it has not been given any chanche and as smaller alliance, we don't have luxury to set iddle and wait how Germany-spanish alliance build itself up into un-breakable state and effectively winning the game for them. Either we succeed to bring ballance or die trying it.

This is also the Russian position, its impossible to consider a post war order where German has more IC than the next twoneighbours combined.
 

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Clauswitz is horrendously out of date and rather incomplete, his insights are more political and philosophical than strategical though he makes the same point as well; having the most finely crafted sword does you little good when you run out of swords. However in the pre-nuclear age Deep Operations I consider the most complete and comprehensive.
 

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I would answer this but like I said before, i will tell what I plan to do, planned to do and actually will do...AFTER the war, not in beforehand in sake of winning forum argument:laugh:
 

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I`m afraid I don`t quite get the joke

Well, NATO had their plans, and the USSR had their plans. It's just as well we'll never know who was right. In the case of me and Punjab, however, we're fighting with aircraft that are obsolete even by 1943 standards, and not many of them at that. I think "Who won the air war?" may well be asked in Samarkand cafes a few months from now. The answer will be "Punjab did"; but the overall war will, I think, be settled on the ground.
 

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after we have burned your villages, molestated your maidens, destroyed your homes and urinated to your wells, its not samarkand where we take your rotten corpse to hear the terms but somewhere lot deeper into darkness ;)
 

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The sounds of artillery rumbled across the horizon and it was a beautiful thing.

After the artillery barrage ended the rocket barrage began in earnest, thousands of rockets fired from their launches streaked across the sky angling down towards their killzone a few kilometers ahead of us, across the river Oder.

“That should give the Germans the shits.” Spoke the fiery redhead, Marina Iskanderova on my right.

She was sitting down in a tank desant position on my T-43, she was the sergeant in charge of a reinforced squad of infantry assigned to ride my tank into battle.

The army could not afford specialized vehicles yet for transporting infantry into battle in reasonable safety, and trucks were too important to risk in front of enemy fire. So riding on top of tanks had to do, which was why my tank and all other new tanks had hand rails welded on to allow the poor idiots to hold on for dear life.

“Uhn.” I grunted in agreement, holding up my optics to try to make out the enemy forces on the other side of the river line.

I could only really make out the tank traps and some forward observation posts, they weren't stupid, they weren't going to put bunkers and other hard points in plain view to be accurately bombarded.

Thinking about that I looked up and noticed some aeroplanes in the sky, since they came from our direction they were most likely Kongoese bombers flying towards German targets.

The Germans themselves didn't fly out too often in our direction, as best as I could tell from the scuttlebut was that they were busy trying to bomb the Russian Protectorate of Copenhagen.

“Think we'll be charging in soon? Bratchischka Colonel Esayeva” She asked.

I thought it over, as a tank Colonel I had full operational control of my regiment to pursue objectives; when I was at division HQ we went over the battleplan, which was a fairly simple one.

“Nope.” Is all I said.

“Oh come on! Tell me tell me! Think of the men....” She left the last part hanging.

Her squad was composed of some ten soldiers including herself, one had anti tank kit, two riflemen, two marksmen, a squad machine gunner, a radioman and two submachine gunners; not counted in the squad was that Afghan artilleryist liaison that was shoved onto us by GRU who always stuck to that Japanese radio operator.

“Fine, we're not moving until a proper beach head and pontoon bridge capable of holding tanks is established, until then the normal leg infantry will attempt to seize the other side. Until then we're sitting put.” No breakthroughs expected today.

Which was entirely reasonable if you thought about it, we were for the most part attacking across a river into heavily fortified positions, likely with anti tank weaponry and minefields that would blunt the effectiveness of any tank rush. It was pointless STAVKA likely thought, to waste tanks of which they had only a limited number, when they could just through infantry and rockets at them, of which they had unlimited hordes of, until the Germans were forced to crack like a hard boiled egg.


The rocket barrage itself finally stopped and a deathly silence reigned over the battlefield, filled with a horrid anticipation.

I looked at my watch; 0845.... Any second now.

0846.

Urrrrrraaaa!
 

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"Gentlemen. Thank you for coming."

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"The weather report is in," the tribune continued, "and it's clear from here to Frunze, except for a patch of cloud near Almaty, which we'll route around. So, Dawning Harmony is a go."

Batu couldn't help but roll his eyes slightly; the tribune's aide was Chinese, and trust a classically-educated Confucian to come up with a name like 'Harmony' for a military operation intended to destroy an enemy formation. Yes, yes, obviously there would be 'harmony' in the air if it worked, in the sense of no opposition to what the Athena Squadron did, but sheesh. Tacitus's old jibe, about making a desert and calling it peace, stood; Chinese or Roman, empires were all one.

"So, if I can draw your attention to this route map, for the final details. To avoid the bad weather at Almaty we will go in a dogleg, first to this map reference point" - he reeled off a string of coordinates, which the navigators duly noted down; the point was out in the middle of the desert, and very likely a hundred miles from the nearest habitation. "Then we will head straight north for Frunze. Now, you were each assigned your individual targets at the briefing yesterday, but in case anyone is too hung-over to remember, here they are again." The tribune's aide went around the room delivering slips of paper to the pilots; Batu took his without looking at it, knowing perfectly well that it said "Hangar 3, Airstrip 6, Hangar 5, Warehouse 4, targets of opportunity" - that had been his priority target list for this raid for a week now, and he had gotten to the point of using it for a meaningless meditation phrase.

"A few final words. You all know why this raid is strategically important: Frunze is the main airbase of the Punjabi air force on this front. Knock it out and they have to move their bombers back halfway to Samarkand, giving them that much less time in the air over the front line. It's also an important day for the Athena Squadron: This will be the first time anyone puts more than 200 aircraft over a single target in Asia. We are going to obliterate Frunze. The ragheads have a few flak positions around it, maybe twenty guns in all. Gentlemen, ignore that completely; stay in your formations and bomb on the word of command. We'll have two hundred and forty bombers in the air. Just the bombs that miss their actual targets will likely be enough to knock out their guns. This, gentlemen, is shock and awe: We'll put enough bombs on the ground at the same time to completely paralyze the defenses. But, I say again, only if you stay in formation. There won't be room in the air above Frunze for any drastic maneuvers. Stay in formation, stay on target, stay focused." The tribune paused and looked at them challengingly, then smiled. "And good luck. Takeoff at 0600. Dismissed."

April 2nd
South of Frunze, altitude 5000 meters
Morning

"Bogeys, two o'clock high." The warning crackled through the static in his headphones, sending a spike of adrenaline through Batu's bloodstream. He snapped his eyes up and to the right, squinting against the Sun - yes, there they were. Black dots, shimmering against the harsh light, making it hard to count; but definitely aircraft, and since Athena Squadron was all around him and Nika Squadron was sticking to its own zone of operations in Tibet, that made them unfriendly. He opened the intercom, making sure he was only speaking to his own crew; the tribune was death on filling the air with chatter. "We've got company. Wake up back there, Arslan, looks like you won't be sleeping the mission away after all." The tail gunner had jokingly complained that he was the only man in the crew who didn't have a real job. "We're going to stick to our formation and make a wall of lead, just like practice." That was doctrine, and Batu agreed with it. Two-engine bombers carrying four tons of high explosive couldn't very well dogfight. They could, however, give each other mutually supporting fields of fire, making a porcupine of tracers to impale any enemy aircraft that came too near. So the ragheads had got their planes into the air - warned by some observer on a mountaintop somewhere, perhaps - well, the worse for them! Their bombers were even older than the Harpy aircraft of the Athena, which would themselves have been considered obsolete on the battlefields of Europe. And whatever Punjabi aircraft survived the storm of fire the Athenites would put out would have a hell of a time landing on smoking, cratered landing strips. Batu grinned fiercely to himself. Let them come!

The enemy aircraft did in fact approach rapidly; Batu frowned as he tried to estimate their airspeed. True, they were almost head-on with his own formation, but still, wasn't that rather fast? Or was he imagining things? Then they were close enough to make out details beyond the cruciform shape, and his eyes widened. The enemy aircraft were single-engined!

"Those aren't bombers," he said clearly, not shouting, just as in training. There was a lump of ice in his belly. Punjab wasn't supposed to have any fighters. Had the Tenth Bureau been asleep on the job again? Then the warning crackled in over his headphones: "Enemy aircraft are fighters, repeat, fighters", and he realised that in his concentration on not giving in to panic by shouting, he'd forgotten to switch back to the squadron channel. His warning had only reached his own crew. That was at least three precious seconds lost - but then again, what could have been done with them? There was nothing for it but to stay in formation and shoot it out. His knuckles whitened on the control stick, but it was all up to Arslan.

The vee of vees opened fire in a wave that went somewhat raggedly from right to left, as individual gunners thought they were in range. At night it might have been beautiful; in this clear air the tracers looked thin, a fragile lacework against the blue. Batu held the stick against the juddering as Arslan opened up; the weight of the multiple tons of explosives in the bomb bays gave the Harpy a stolidity it hadn't had in firing practice. We could have had three times as much firepower, no problem, Batu realised; but of course that would have come at the expense of throw weight... Then his neighbour in the formation was hit, making his own plane stagger in midair, and Batu suddenly realised concretely what the abstract phrase "four tons of explosives" meant. There are eighty loads each of a hundred pounds of tri-nitro-toluene in our bomb bays, and ice went through his veins and the hair on his arms tried to stand up to make him larger and scarier. The pilots in those imported fighters were quite unlikely to be impressed, though. They only had to get one hit somewhere amidships, while to down the fighters the tail gunners had to either bend enough metal to make their sturdy engines not work, or else hit the pilot.

"Drop the bombs," Batu ordered. Then he switched to the squadron channel. "Sir," he said, quite calmly. "We're just waiting to blow up, here. Suggest we jettison and abandon."

"What?" his bombardier said on the intercom. "We're nowhere near the target!"

"Drop them anyway, that's an order!" Batu hissed, then realised that he had forgotten to switch back to the intercom. The squadron channel was coming alive with similar internal chatter, radio discipline breaking down, and a few shattering booms as pilot microphones picked up the deaths of their aircraft. Frantically he flipped to the internal channel. "Jettison the damn load, we're under attack! Falling somewhere in Punjab will have to be good enough!" he shouted. There was no response, but the stick juddered again in his hands with the characteristic rough airflow of the bomb doors opening.

"Radio silence!" came in over the air, the tribune's voice, and the frantic combat chatter cut off; probably everyone was as relieved as Batu at hearing that this clusterfuck was still under command. "Drop the" - and no doubt he intended to say "bomb loads," that was the only thing that could possibly follow. Instead there was an explosion and then a dreadful drawn-out "shiiiit", proving that, by the bodhisattva, the new radio equipment really was much more robust against battle damage, and also that it was actually possible to survive, by some miracle of shrapnel, when your bomb bay went up. Perhaps even the fall that followed? They did have parachutes... Batu snapped out of his stunned slowness. Who was in command now? It should be Deng, who commanded First Wing, but no Chinese accent filled the channel, whose crackle now sounded like the voice of stunned indecision. Had he been killed, did he just not realise that he was in command, or was he trying to decide what to do? It didn't matter, Batu decided. Seconds were important.

"This is Batu," he rapped out, making sure this time to flip the switch to the squadron channel first. "I'm assuming command." They could court-martial him later, if there was a later. "Jettison the bomb loads, squadron turn to new heading oh-niner-oh degrees." Straight west would do; they could figure out the exact navigation later. "Keep the formation, we're dead meat if we break up." Maybe that wasn't true, maybe the fighters wouldn't be able to hunt them all down; but better a decision, any decision, right now than the perfectly correct one in two minutes. Anyway they could always break up, but getting back together again would be impossible. The formation turned with agonising slowness, one vee at a time - ragged, ragged, there were holes were wing leaders should have been, but it turned. Bombs exploded far below; Batu hoped cordially that there was a Punjabi Army formation somewhere down there. Perhaps this slaughter wasn't a complete waste, if they were lucky. The goddamn fighters were coming around for another firing pass, but there was nothing to be done about that except whisper a prayer to the bodhisattva - Batu became aware that the voice in the intercom wasn't his own, but Kunwoo the navigator's. "Now, and in the hour of our deaths, Amen." Then he started in again from the top, "Hail Mary, full of Grace" - Batu tuned it out. He had a job to do, namely to start turning the aircraft, now, following the vee in front of him. Kunwoo didn't, right now, although he'd be busy when the time came to figure their way back; so he might as well pray. They would need it.

April 3rd, 1943
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An hour before noon

"Sir." Chiang stood at attention, although not in the ramrod-rigid posture traditional in a man called to the carpet for a major screwup. Why bother? The matter would not be made any better by a particularly textbook salute. "If you want my resignation, you have it."

Konstantin looked at him coolly. "I'll consider it," he said calmly. "First, sit down and tell me how bad it is."

"It's pretty bad, sir," Konstantin admitted, relaxing slightly. "We lost about half of Athena Squadron. They won't be good for anything for months, at least, until we can replace the crews and, more important, their morale. I've pulled them back to New Byzantium and sent the Samothrace Squadron east to replace them at Urumqi."

"Samothrace Squadron has the old Sphinx bombers?"

"Yes. Well, they're about halfway through conversion to Harpies."

"So we lose considerable throw weight and range."

"Well, yes, but what's worse is that we daren't get too close to the Punjabi airbases. Those fighters of theirs don't seem to have a very long range, but they're certainly good enough for defending their own territory. In effect we can no longer contest air superiority on the Tibetan front."

Konstantin pressed his lips together grimly. "Well. There are limits to air power. We can take Frunze by more traditional means." They both knew that the Legions would suffer heavily for the lack of air power; but they would do their duty.

"Yes, sir. At least we still have air superiority on the Burmese front." Incredibly, the Punjabi government didn't seem to have built a single airfield in its new territories; true, the treacherous winds around the mountains limited the range and usefulness of Nika Squadron, but still, to have no air support at all had to be demoralising the ragheads there.

"Indeed." Konstantin looked at Chiang, considering, for a long time. At last he said, "Thank you, Megas Aquileon, but your offer of resignation is not accepted. There is no better man for the task. Mistakes happen."

"Thank you, sir." Chiang very carefully did not let his shoulders slump in relief. There were any number of Komnenoi, many of them good officers with excellent connections, waiting in - hah! - the wings, ready to take over his position at the drop of a bomb.

"Now. Stick around. Perhaps you'll find my next interview more pleasant." Konstantin pushed a button on his desk, giving an order to his secretary. "Send him in, please, Elena."

The door opened to admit the head of the Tenth Bureau. Arkadios's bald forehead glistened with sweat. He wasn't in uniform, being the head of a civilian agency, and so, properly, did not salute the commander-in-chief of the Legions; but he looked as though he rather wished he could. He'd been an officer once, like most high-ranked Komnenoi. The forms were a comfort, sometimes. He stood at something approximating attention before Konstantin's desk, the same spot that Chiang had occupied two minutes earlier. "Sir," he said. "You wanted to see me?"

"Yes, Arkadios," Konstantin said, deceptively gentle. Neither Arkadios nor Chiang was fooled. "I'd like you to explain how the Punjabi acquired two entire wings of reasonably modern fighter aircraft, without my knowing about it."

"Well, sir." Arkadios swallowed. "We've recently become aware - "

Konstantin interrupted him. "How recently> And who is 'we', in this context?"

"Ah. That is. Sir. There is a report from an agent in Samarkand, stating that a transfer from the Ethiopian Air Force was being discussed at high levels. It is dated January seventh. But. It gave no details, no numbers, no dates. Consequently it was assessed that it did not have sufficient priority to reach higher levels. So, 'we', the Tenth Bureau, have in some sense known since January. I, personally, became aware of it late yesterday."

"I see," Konstantin said. "You say, 'it was assessed'. The passive voice is the death of clear thinking. Who did this assessment?"

Arkadios straightened, some defiance coming into his eyes. "Sir. No names, no pack drill. It happened on my watch."

"So it did." Konstantin paused, thinking. "You're fired," he said at length. Arkadios very carefully - Chiang could see the effort it took him - did not slump. "Yes, sir," he said. "Was there anything else?"

"That will be all."

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Ouch.
 

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In this session:

1.Dano did not came to our side despite we agreed intially, so the war against germany was a death boring stalemate we could not win
2. So we needed some other plan
3. Called the "plan B"
4. Which of all my stubidest ideas was propably the most stubidiest
5. even winning the "photoshop-nukes to get yourself annexed" -stunt from TWBW
6. Anyways...
7. Africa agrees WP with germany, with secret agreement to partition russia
8. This is done, lots of drama since Russian player didnt knew it was a plan.
9. Russia gets desperately seek other helpers, including offers of puppetisations to germany and japan.
10. Germany disagrees since he wants to keep his share of the bargain and to get all of russia
11. Japan agrees on russian offer, puppets Russia...
12. Africa + Allies DoWs russia, Japan (several times since the puppetisation)
13. Russia gets partioned.
14. Japan turns the war hot in asia...
15. Once ethiopian tanks are back in positions.
16. Ethiopia Puppetises Russia (with little twisting to him that this was actually planned this way)
17. Ethiopia declares war on Germany.
18. Japan re-enters Comitern.
 

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...can you start over from the beginning?

...wait, on second thought, I'm not sure I want to try to understand. :confused:

So it's Eth/Cng/Jap/Rus/Pan vs Ger/Cat/Mgl?
 
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yes something like that. I think I left out the part where we first DoWed russia, and the Japan puppeted it, war ended, and we redowed russia (allies foolishly dowed Japan instead and only then russia)
 

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Oh boy, major happenings!

Quick recap of the diplomacy. Africa offered to backstab and partition Russia in exchange for a WP. We agreed, instead, to use this offer as a wedge to cut Blayne loose from the Africans. Blayne took that offer to the Africans as proof of his loyalty. We therefore accepted the original offer of partitioning Blayne. As soon as the African troops were out of Russia, Germany DOWed; at which point Japan vassalised Russia, ending that war. We found this annoying. We DOWed Japan. There was a race to see who could occupy the larger part of Russia; Punjab pretty much won on the Siberian front. Nonetheless, Khanate troops are in contact with their German allies at the extreme eastern end of our line; also, for the first time in centuries, Roman troops are west of the Urals in their own right, as conquerors, not as expeditionary forces.

Japan attempted to land at Port Arthur and to drive up the Korean peninsula. The landing was contained and driven back into the sea. The Korean attack is a hellish meatgrinder, but Japan has a lot of bodies. (Also, paratroops. Very sorry about the air forces at Ganggye, Dano.) Considered as a military campaign this is not very successful, at least so far. Considered as a ploy to pull my troops east, it was pretty successful. At this point Ethiopia vassalised Russia and declared war on Germany again. It is claimed by certain parties that the whole tricky dance of partition was a ploy to get German troops out of position and into Russia, where they can be cut apart by the Africans, who presumably have deployed to prepare for such a strike. We shall see. At any rate Punjab is attacking again in the Himalayas. Once more the Roman Khanate is faced with a two-front war.

The Japanese troops are numerous, but not well equipped; there's INF-36, MOT-36, MTN-36. The elite marine corps is their most modern formation, and even so it's only MAR-39. Here is the Anshan landing, from start to evacuation:

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I confess that there was a certain amount of concern in my TS chat at this point. That's a bad place for a Japanese breakout, very close to my industrial heartland.

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Fortunately his troops had exhausted themselves just getting ashore, and were not well supplied - the Athena squadron (repaired since its debacle at Frunze, and ready for some easy targets to get their morale up) and the Californian air force dominated the Bohai Sea. Also note the old-style equipment. Dude, if I had 200 base IC my MTN troops would not be seen dead in '36 gear. In fact I believe they're better upgraded than that even on my 150 base.

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Here my real containing army has just arrived, the 1st Red Banner Army, a counterattack stack with nine INF-ART. Unfortunately this left Ganggye, with its important airbase, without a garrison. I could claim that I thought Japan had exhausted his paras in the landing, but the fact is that it didn't occur to me to worry about garrisoning airfields behind the line. My bad!

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Stopped in their tracks, driven back.

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The elite marine corps, such as it is. Question: They seem to have a bonus, not malus, for defending at night; is that really correct?

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Once there was reasonable parity of troops, that is, Japan was no longer fighting my militia beach-guards - who acquitted themselves quite well, even so - the serious fighting was all my way. Admittedly Japan certainly has the MP reserves for this sort of thing.

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The battle of Wonshan at a late stage. The original garrison, after a heroic VoV stand, has all been driven off at this point (I retreated them when it was that or lose the divisions) and this mountain corps won't stand much longer. But they've bought time for the 1st Red Banner to rush back from the peninsula. Japan is currently asking for a ceasefire.