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Indeed you are right, although I note that this cuts both ways: Have fun fighting me to the industry and VPs on the Pacific coast, not to mention the TC. The Khanate is bigger and has even worse terrain than Punjab, which is a bit of an accomplishment.

However, all that aside, I stand by our exchange during the session:

Mark: So KoM, would you like to make peace on favourable terms?
KoM (whose nine armoured divisions just arrived at the front): Sure. I'll let you know what they are when I reach Samarkand.

I don't intend to annex you, supposing I win; considerations of IC aside, I'd like to keep your army intact. But the Punjab that emerges from a Khanate victory will be rather smaller than the current one.

Really though, now that Frunze has fallen you might as well surrender. :D

Don't expect me to surrender until i hear the lamentations of your women in Punjabs bed. ;)
 
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So... all I've got to do is send you some whiny Komnenoi? "This sucks. I volunteered for the Women's Auxiliary so I could, like, meet totally hot Komnenoi legionnaires. Not to be the fourth wife of some grody Muslim that doesn't even have a hundred camels. And all we got out of the deal was Punjab? FML."
 

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The Democratic Socialist People's Republic of Federated German Soviets has no banks. It has People's Economic Cooperatives.

...now imagine that sentence written in German, and be glad I decided to have mercy on your bandwidth. :D
 

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Sure, sure. Suppose you succeed, where are you going to find the players for El Salvador, Panama, Honduras, Belize, Guatemala, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Cuba, Haiti, the Dominican Republic, Jamaica, Trinidad & Tobago, Venezuela, Colombia, Ecuador, Guyana, Surinam, Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Bolivia, Chile, Paraguay, Peru, Spain, Portugal, Italy, France, Belgium, the Netherlands, England, Wales, Scotland, Iceland, Ireland, Denmark, Poland, Croatia, Serbia, Switzerland, Austria, Slovenia, Bosnia, Greece, Bulgaria, Romania and Czechoslovakia?

And that is leaving Germany with, you know, Germany proper - which would still probably be #1 in industry!

Well actually if we wouldn't be using any mod, I think I could get atleast half of our tuesday game lot in... but in that case, if you rest would be lamps, me+jodó+blayne+dano would be rams...they would be bloody tigers among us all :p

Germany must be laughing all the way to the bank. Good Lord, look at that blob to end all blobs

Von Runsteds (player) who In eu3 phase got lot of crap upon him when he tried to prematurely prevent this is laugthing all the way to the bank now ;)
 

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You wouldnt need players for that many....
 

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in next marathon game, if there is a mod at hoi phase, lets make IC cost like 20 IC to produce so it would end the stubid and efeminate IC whoring and people would actually build troops and figth for gaining more land. And don't pennalise foreing IC and MP so much. This phase of the game should be made as optimal for rutheless powermongering as possible. That way the leading IC powers couldnt rise into too large and get as overpowered as germany and catalunia are
 

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efeminate

Effeminate? I'll show your soon-to-be-encircled troops in Slutsk effeminate! And effeminately invade mainland Africa while I'm at it!


And your men will be thankful for it, too. The POW-camps will be lavishly supplied with embroidery classes and tea supplies.
 

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Effeminate? I'll show your soon-to-be-encircled troops in Slutsk effeminate! And effeminately invade mainland Africa while I'm at it!


And your men will be thankful for it, too. The POW-camps will be lavishly supplied with embroidery classes and tea supplies.

well the saddest part is that had you been building nothing but troops since day one, your encirclement attempts would actually have some weigth upon them so they would actually have any merit in this war. If even russian militia can throw you back, then you're doing it wrong. IF our side manages to win this war, then you are doing it seriously wrong. ;) When speaking purely statistically, nations like Ethiopia and Kongo should not be at anypoint on their own offensive war against nations like Catalunia and Germany...
 

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A Short History of the Wars & Diplomatic Happenings Since 1936

Good day one and all.
By popular demand for factual statements of events I will try to give a coherent and objective report of the major events since conversion to AoD.

We started out with the following line-up:
(1936)
African Alliance (the 'Komintern')
Ethiopia (IrshFaq)
Kongo (B0naparte)
Japan (Falador)
Punjab (Mark)

German Alliance (the 'Axis')
Germany (Fivoin, currently the only player still in his original slot)
Russia (Blayne)
Assorted minors (0-2 IC)

American Alliance
Catalonia (Oddman)
USA (Danomite)

Komgolian Alliance (the 'Allies')
Mongolia (King of Men)

Croatian Alliance
Croatia (OrangeYoshi, but he never actually played a session - Croatia was AI basically all the time.)
Assorted minors (0-2 IC)​

In the years 1936-1940, no territory changed hands through war. However, some shuffling of player slots and alliance compositions happened.
B0naparte played only a single session, selling India to Punjab while at it.
Golle was engaged to sub Ethiopia, and ended up playing Kongo.
The American Alliance was made the Allies, and King of Men joined it.
IrshFaq dropped out due to pressure at work, and Jodokus took over as Ethiopia.

Then, May 1st 1940, Germany declared war upon Croatia and its (completely useless) allies. At that time, the diplomatic line-up was thus:

African Alliance (the 'Komintern')
Ethiopia (Jodokus)
Kongo (Gollevainen)
Japan (Falador, but he was ghosted at the start of that session)
Punjab (Mark)

German Alliance (the 'Axis') (At war with the Croatian Alliance)
Germany (Fivoin)
Russia (Blayne)
Assorted minors (0-2 IC)

American Alliance
Catalonia (Oddman)
USA (Danomite)
Mongolia (King of Men)

Croatian Alliance (at war with the German Alliance)
Croatia (AI)
Assorted minors (0-2 IC)​

In response, the African alliance also declared war upon Croatia, presumably to prevent it all of it from falling into German hands. In turn, King of Men left the (uninvolved) American alliance to join Germany's, in order to 'liberate' Croatian Vietnam:

African Alliance (the 'Komintern') (At war with the Croatian Alliance)
Ethiopia (Jodokus)
Kongo (Gollevainen)
Japan (Falador)
Punjab (Mark)

German Alliance (the 'Axis') (At war with the Croatian Alliance)
Germany (Fivoin)
Russia (Blayne)
Mongolia (King of Men)
Assorted minors (0-2 IC)

American Alliance
Catalonia (Oddman)
USA (Danomite)

Croatian Alliance (at war with the German Alliance and the African alliance)
Croatia (AI)
Assorted minors (0-2 IC)​

Croatian Anatolia was quickly taken by the Ethiopians, Ukraine fell to the Russians, and Croatia proper was overrun by Germans. Nothing much happened in Vietnam. When Germany's and Africa's troops met, which happened in Thrace, the African Alliance declared war upon Germany. Where at first the only active war was on Croatian soil, the two major blocs being at war opened a number of new fronts:
Mongolia ('Axis') - Punjab ('Komintern'), in Xinjiang,
Mongolia ('Axis') - Japan ('Komintern'), in China and Korea,
Russia ('Axis') - Punjab ('Komintern'), in Kazakhstan.
Additionally, the Mediterranean was contested between the combined naval forces of both coalitions (even though all of the combining was done on the African side; no Russian and Mongolian vessels made it to the Med).

At this point, only the nations in the American Alliance were not at war.

African Alliance (the 'Komintern') (At war with the Croatian Alliance and the German alliance)
Ethiopia (Jodokus)
Kongo (Gollevainen)
Japan (Falador)
Punjab (Mark)

German Alliance (the 'Axis') (At war with the Croatian Alliance and the African Alliance)
Germany (Fivoin)
Russia (Blayne)
Mongolia (King of Men)
Assorted minors (0-2 IC)

American Alliance
Catalonia (Oddman)
USA (Danomite)

Croatian Alliance (at war with the German Alliance and the African alliance)
Croatia (AI)
Assorted minors (0-2 IC)​

The war did not go smoothly for the 'Axis'. Even though Croatia did not take long to be annexed, Falador arrived and promptly smacked Mongolia upside the head, the African alliance made landings throughout the Mediterranean, spearheaded by Punjab (in Greece and in Sicily) and Kongo (in Italy) while the Thracian front bogged down. Given the combined IC figures of both sides, the Axis was expected to fall, eventually.

At that point, the American alliance intervened in favour of the 'Axis', declaring war upon the African Alliance:

African Alliance (the 'Komintern') (At war with the German alliance)
Ethiopia (Jodokus)
Kongo (Gollevainen)
Japan (Falador)
Punjab (Mark)

German Alliance (the 'Axis') (At war with the African Alliance)
Germany (Fivoin)
Russia (Blayne)
Mongolia (King of Men)
Assorted minors (0-2 IC)

American Alliance (At war with the African alliance)
Catalonia (Oddman)
USA (Danomite)
Soon afterward, the Japanese made a separate peace with the American and German alliances. It did not join any of them, due to high Isolationism, and became its own faction:

African Alliance (the 'Komintern') (At war with the German alliance)
Ethiopia (Jodokus)
Kongo (Gollevainen)
Punjab (Mark)

German Alliance (the 'Axis') (At war with the African Alliance)
Germany (Fivoin)
Russia (Blayne)
Mongolia (King of Men)
Assorted minors (0-2 IC)

American Alliance (At war with the African alliance)
Catalonia (Oddman)
USA (Danomite)

Japanese co-Japan-prosperity Japan
Japan (Falador)​

At the same time, rumour had it that Russia's allegiance to Germany was shifting, and rumours proved true. Russia pledged vassalization to Africa, leaving the German alliance. The vassalization was quickly undone, but the alliance shift endured:

African Alliance (the 'Komintern') (At war with the German alliance)
Ethiopia (Jodokus)
Kongo (Gollevainen)
Punjab (Mark)
Russia (Blayne)

German Alliance (the 'Axis') (At war with the African Alliance)
Germany (Fivoin)
Mongolia (King of Men)
Assorted minors (0-2 IC)

American Alliance (At war with the African alliance)
Catalonia (Oddman)
USA (Danomite)

Japanese co-Japan-prosperity Japan
Japan (Falador)​

...and that, gentle reader, is where we are today.

(AAR reward: MP)
 
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oddman said:
In the years 1936-1940, no territory changed hands.

You appear to have forgotten the Sale of India. But perhaps you meant that no territory changed hands by force?

no Russian and Mongolian vessels made it to the Med).

No Mongolian vessels exist. I sold them to Ethiopia in 1936.
 

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You appear to have forgotten the Sale of India. But perhaps you meant that no territory changed hands by force?

Good point; adjusted.

No Mongolian vessels exist. I sold them to Ethiopia in 1936.
The assertion that no Mongolian vessels made it to the Med is still eminently correct, if irrelevant.
 

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rumour had it that Russia's allegiance to Germany was shifting, and rumours proved true.

damn blayne never can keep his deceptions hidden and secret...
 

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damn blayne never can keep his deceptions hidden and secret...
To be fair, we only started suspecting his changing sides since you needed him to join the session so badly.
That we didn't trust him in the first place was because, well, Blayne.

Honestly, OOC-ly, I really like this turn of events. Makes things much more interesting.

One does not simply walk into Mordor! ;)
Even when said Mordor is Communist :p
 

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That was honestly a "WTF" moment for me hearing it on teamspeak, I was mentally mouthing "You mental?" I tried to play it off, with non committal "I guess" and so on to make me sound confused but seriously.

If we win it is because in the end the Axis's mistakes proved far more significant than our own, which will be a friggin astounding.

Here's to saturday.
 

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The assertion that no Mongolian vessels made it to the Med is still eminently correct, if irrelevant.

I have decided to prove you wrong. :)