Feed back on some of the new DLC's

[Red Barron]

Been about a year since I played CK2, I was wondering how people found "Horse lords" and "Conclave" ?

I am going to pick up "Reaper" DLC, since I pre-ordered it.


Thanks all.

 

[Aries666]

I enjoyed Horselords but a lot of stuff wasn't very user friendly, like manual pillaging of settlements. However, the upcoming patch seems to be fixing almost all my issues with.

No idea about Conclave, I don't own it.

 

[Furleppe]

A lot of people criticised Conclave(or rather the free patch changes), but I think all issues are fixed with new Game Rules so imho it's worth it now. Horse Lords exp is good if you want to play as a nomads. Well, if the optimization is as good as they said, I think now it's the best time to come back to CK2.

 

[DukeDayve]

I can't really comment much on Horse Lords because I very rarely ever play as... horse lords. I mostly (actually, totally) play as Catholics/Orthodox/Norse, in Europe because they are the most interesting to me.

Conclave was alright. Not good or bad. It's about time vassals were given more of a say in the running of a realm. I would've preferred it if vassals were made way more powerful, and if pushed too far their rebellions would seriously threaten your rule, because right now no matter how far you push them their rebellions are still so puny and weak - but that's due to the hard nerfing of faction rebellions in the Rajas DLC. But it's a step in the right direction I guess.

Meh, to be honest, the last few expansions have been underwhelming. In my opinion The Old Gods was the high point of this game, and it has gotten a little bit worse with each DLC over time. It's still a good game, just that ToG was when it was at its best.

 

[Red Barron]

Thank you for your feedback, I picked up both because they were at a discount, I played as Norse because that is where I left off at, at least I can try to gage the new gameplay. It will be fun again because I took a long break from the game, even if the dlc's are not 100%.

 

[dreamonceh]

Meh, to be honest, the last few expansions have been underwhelming. In my opinion The Old Gods was the high point of this game, and it has gotten a little bit worse with each DLC over time. It's still a good game, just that ToG was when it was at its best.

It's the same for me. Most of my playtime was around the ToG, and since RoI (which I regrettably own as well) I haven't played much.
Some DLCs added some cool things for me. I liked Charlemagne and I seemingly must be one of the few that have really enjoyed WoL, especially judging features x price (I found the new DLCs too overpriced, but that's only my opinion).

I was very excited for Conclave, but when I had the chance to play, I realised I had put too much expectation on it. The idea behind the DLC was fantastic, but the way it was done sure let me down, so I don't even plan on getting the new DLCs (since Horse Lords). Maybe when they finish all the development of DLCs I might try getting to CK again.

 

[Gamengervi]

It's the same for me. Most of my playtime was around the ToG, and since RoI (which I regrettably own as well) I haven't played much.
Some DLCs added some cool things for me. I liked Charlemagne and I seemingly must be one of the few that have really enjoyed WoL, especially judging features x price (I found the new DLCs too overpriced, but that's only my opinion).

I was very excited for Conclave, but when I had the chance to play, I realised I had put too much expectation on it. The idea behind the DLC was fantastic, but the way it was done sure let me down, so I don't even plan on getting the new DLCs (since Horse Lords). Maybe when they finish all the development of DLCs I might try getting to CK again.

As annoying as Conclave is for me as a shit player, I couldn't imagine playing the game without it, if I am to be honest. As for Horse Lords, I have absolutely no idea how to play as Nomads. I've enjoyed all of the DLC though, save for Sunset Invasion. I haven't enabled it and won't until I shoot for the achievements.

 

[Hootieleece]

Conclave isn't to bad. Like DukeDayve said it helps with making vassals and running the realm important but some of the other changes like shattered retreat and coalitions were bad ideas. Luckily we will now be able to customize the game rules to our liking with the new patch and DLC.

I have all the DLC except Sunset Invasion even though I only play European Catholics and Pagans mostly. I think almost all of the DLC have at least some good mechanics and features and I like to have options for other starts even if I don't utilize them.

 

[Gamengervi]

Conclave isn't to bad. Like DukeDayve said it helps with making vassals and running the realm important but some of the other changes like shattered retreat and coalitions were bad ideas. Luckily we will now be able to customize the game rules to our liking with the new patch and DLC.

I have all the DLC except Sunset Invasion even though I only play European Catholics and Pagans mostly. I think almost all of the DLC have at least some good mechanics and features and I like to have options for other starts even if I don't utilize them.

I don't even remember pre-shattered retreat. What happened when a stack lost a battle?

 

[Hootieleece]

Wars were a little less messy.......Battles were more decisive........unfortunately that meant larger numbers usually won.

Stacks didn't always get instawiped but it was definitely easier to chase them down and eliminate them.

 

[Gamengervi]

Wars were a little less messy.......Battles were more decisive........unfortunately that meant larger numbers usually won.

Stacks didn't always get instawiped but it was definitely easier to chase them down and eliminate them.

Yeah, I think I remember just chasing them province by province until they're wiped out. As rewarding as that felt, I don't think it was much better than the way it is now.

 

[Hootieleece]

Yeah it isn't really much better but makes for less tedium since I am just looking for some fun.

Yeah, I think I remember just chasing them province by province until they're wiped out. As rewarding as that felt, I don't think it was much better than the way it is now.

 

[Gamengervi]

Yeah it isn't really much better but makes for less tedium since I am just looking for some fun.

Fair enough. At least it's optional now, I suppose.

 

[Riekopo]

Horse Lords had some problems, but it seems like they will be fixed with the coming patch. Personally, I hated Conclave and still won't be playing with it. I think it was the first actually bad DLC.

 

[RX2000]

Yeah, I think I remember just chasing them province by province until they're wiped out. As rewarding as that felt, I don't think it was much better than the way it is now.

Yep you could see what province they were retreating to & just immediately move there & stomp them again. You didnt have to chase them 5 province away & THEN stomp them. I dont really think Shattered Retreat adds much gameplay-wise really......

 

[Gamengervi]

Yep you could see what province they were retreating to & just immediately move there & stomp them again. You didnt have to chase them 5 province away & THEN stomp them. I dont really think Shattered Retreat adds much gameplay-wise really......

Because, depending on the warscore situation, I usually don't need to chase them down unless I'm afraid they will be a threat when they recover. I usually siege instead.

 

[ruzen]

I don't like Conclave but the reason behind was the incoming patch with It. It was a very good idea but poorly executed so It created deep wounds within the community which led to the announcement of "end of ck2" but with Reapers Due Patch It is going to heal those wounds. I hope.

 

[RX2000]

Because, depending on the warscore situation, I usually don't need to chase them down unless I'm afraid they will be a threat when they recover. I usually siege instead.

Right, but if they have enough men left they will come back & siege one of your holdings. Its really just annoying more than anything. And for me it hurts realism. Usually if the Middle Ages if 2 armies actually did meet on the field it would be decisive & one would win & one would be pretty well crushed. I cant remember a time when an army chased another army all around Europe for months continually beating it in the field over & over & over again until it was destroyed.

 

[Gamengervi]

Right, but if they have enough men left they will come back & siege one of your holdings. Its really just annoying more than anything. And for me it hurts realism. Usually if the Middle Ages if 2 armies actually did meet on the field it would be decisive & one would win & one would be pretty well crushed. I cant remember a time when an army chased another army all around Europe for months continually beating it in the field over & over & over again until it was destroyed.

Crushed in what way? Very few soldiers were actually killed in battle during the time and the majority that were were caused by injuries during retreats (men getting run over by their army's own horses and such).

 

[Aries666]

Right, but if they have enough men left they will come back & siege one of your holdings. Its really just annoying more than anything. And for me it hurts realism. Usually if the Middle Ages if 2 armies actually did meet on the field it would be decisive & one would win & one would be pretty well crushed. I cant remember a time when an army chased another army all around Europe for months continually beating it in the field over & over & over again until it was destroyed.

The hundred years war would like to have a word with you on that.