Feast and Famine in 2.2.4: I need some help with consumer goods in the first decades

[B3ndolf]

i colonise a similar number to you on average, i generally just colonise all the green and yellow planets in the first wave. 1 thing i do is resettle pops from some of the colonies to others of them to get a couple of the colonies up to 10 pops quicker just to reduce the drain on my capital a bit quicker. this way i get the advantage of having all those colonies providing pop growth but dont have to sit with half a dozen colonies draining my capitals pops for 30 years.

i do build gene clinics but i dont build them as soon as you do. if i have 6 colonies i would probably build something like 2 cg, 2 alloy and a research and a unity as the first buildings on them depending on exactly how the start goes. it doesnt really matter what goes where, you can always rearrange things later to get specialisation bonuses. if you want robots then pick a couple of planets you really want to develop quickly and build robot factorys there and build cg and other stuff on all the others first and wait for the second slot for robots on those. will slow down your early growth a little but will stabilise your economy quicker as well.

i always build an alloy foundry first on my capital.

 

[EdGreyfox]

You can't call it savescumming when all I play is ironman mode. I just refuse to start my game in a part of the galaxy that's going to have a worthless precursor reward, or one that is useless until the game is almost over. I play for my own enjoyment, not to impress you, so feel free to play however you want and keep your criticisms to yourself.

 

[AlanC9]

Reloading until you get a game-breakingly powerful precursor bonus isn't savescumming?

Not that I care if you do, but it sounds like a reasonable use of language to me.

Fun fact: I've never got that bonus yet; the only ecumenopolis I've ever had is a FE homeworld. RNGesus hates me, I guess.

 

[EdGreyfox]

How is it any different from all the people on these forums that restart until they get a starting planet that's at least x size or that isn't close to raiders, Fp's or any other situation they don't feel like dealing with? I don't recall anyone calling people names before the latest update when it was standard procedure for a lot of people to restart until they started in the area that would net them a free ringworld (SW corner of the map), so why is what I'm doing supposedly savescumming? I have to handicap my early game exploration by spending the time completing high end anomalies that other people just bypass until later, so as far as I'm concerned it's just as legitimate as all the other methods people use. I could see your point if I was doing multiplayer, but since I don't I can't see any call for someone to use an insulting term just because I play the game differently than they do.

 

[AlanC9]

It isn't different. Who said it was different?

And you should really stop being defensive about this. You're a savescummer -- that simply is the word for what you're doing -- but there's nothing wrong with that. I savescum in Civ4 all the freakin' time, actually. Can't see any reason to in Stellaris, but if there was, I'd do it.

Edit: if you can come up with a different term for what you're doing, that'd be fine too. I can't think of one offhand.

 

[Dalwin]

It's diff

How is it any different from all the people on these forums that restart until they get a starting planet that's at least x size or that isn't close to raiders, Fp's or any other situation they don't feel like dealing with? I don't recall anyone calling people names before the latest update when it was standard procedure for a lot of people to restart until they started in the area that would net them a free ringworld (SW corner of the map), so why is what I'm doing supposedly savescumming? I have to handicap my early game exploration by spending the time completing high end anomalies that other people just bypass until later, so as far as I'm concerned it's just as legitimate as all the other methods people use. I could see your point if I was doing multiplayer, but since I don't I can't see any call for someone to use an insulting term just because I play the game differently than they do.

It's not different. That still does not make either practice anything other than playing with advantage. it is also no different from playing on a lower difficulty setting.

Some prefer to go the other direction and not make the game easier by such means. Maybe one game in three I go so far as to play with a randomly generated race.

To call restarting until you get an advantage, save scumming, is fairly accurate.

It isn't different. Who said it was different?

And you should really stop being defensive about this. You're a savescummer -- that simply is the word for what you're doing -- but there's nothing wrong with that. I savescum in Civ4 all the freakin' time, actually. Can't see any reason to in Stellaris, but if there was, I'd do it.

Edit: if you can come up with a different term for what you're doing, that'd be fine too. I can't think of one offhand.

I suppose one could call it start scumming.