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Oh mine ... guys you've really great ideas but i've always the same problem ... i'm lonely in the development of the mod and i can't satisfy all your ideas/requests :(
My plan for the next release was (originally) a revision of Italy (completed but not tested) a revision of Soviet areas (completely to do) and new general 50s events (partially made ... ) plus fix here and there but now i'm bogged down in a complete revision of chinese area whit Manchuria and friends :D
 

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@Khor
It's an interesting idea and I do think that SS Germany would be crazy enough to go for it, though in limited use. The place were it would be most applicable would be in Hungary/Romania after the German intervention in the Translyvania war. If they decided to military occupy the defeated nation, the SS upon gaining power could do this in order to insure there loyalty. Reminds me of an idea I had were an SS Germany could create an RK in Britain in order to put the Saxon back into Anglo-Saxon.
 

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Why can't I create RK Scandinavia?
 

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@Khor

Interesting idea. But I think only the craziest SS Germany would actually go for it. I'm certain there weren't/are not enough Germans in the world, let alone Europe to pull a PRC-in-Tibet with all that, let alone keep it under control or dilute/destroy the preexisting national identities.

@alexsmart

Okay, that one could actually be feasible.
 

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Why don't you build a team? Kaiserreich isn't developed by one person, too.

You don't known how many times i try to made a team (and in past we was a team ...) but at the end i'm ever the last one.
This community is fantastic but it's really hard found peoples who want work seriously and actively on a specific mod. And the RL made the rest.

For example, 1 year ago we made a Recruitment Thread. Result ? Also the thread starter has leave the team :D https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/recruitment-fatherland-mod.956818/

Why can't I create RK Scandinavia?

It's a bug yet fixed for the next release ...
 

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I can only say, that invasions against all the mentioned nations were planned, but not initiated (except the Hungarian one, which was not exactly that and only in 1944.)
I would say that the radicals were not the most logical and realistic persons. Even the lands taken from the Soviets would be a nightmare to hold (not to mention a victory against the rest of it with RK Siberia.)
It is true that they would not be capable to entirely colonize it, but they would probably try if those nations "make some trouble". From the '30s on the Reich had a baby boom, which would probably remain like that until the early '60s and controlling Portugal lands are much easier, than controlling Bryansk or Archangelsk.

But to not make this thread a Germanophil thread, I think the Morgenthau plan would be initiated if the Allies won. Everyone would be okay with that after one or two decades of German rule.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.co...e90c1f543--nazi-propaganda-central-europe.jpg
 

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I've just made a sketch events for Manchuria ... could you help me with the description ? Any suggestion will be appreciated, thank you !

Code:
###########################################################
# WW2 Outcome
###########################################################
event = {
    id = 90000400
    country = MAN
    random = no
    
    style = 2
    picture = "news_paper"
    name = "WW2 Outcome"
    desc = "Desc:TODO"

    date = { day = 23 month = january year = 1948 }
    
    action = {
        name = "The Manchurian Empire"
        command = { type = dissent value = 15 }               
    }
}

###########################################################
# Future of Manchuria
###########################################################
event = {
    id = 90000401
    country = MAN
    random = no
    
    style = 2
    picture = "news_paper"
    name = "Future of Manchuria"
    desc = "Desc:TODO"
    
    trigger = {
        event = 90000400
    }


    date = { day = 15 month = march year = 1948 }
    offset = 10
    deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1963 }
    
    action = {
        ai_chance = 50
        name = "Interventionism"
        command = { type = setflag which = ManInter }               
    }
    
    action = {
        ai_chance = 50
        name = "Isolationism"
        command = { type = setflag which = ManIso }               
    }
    
}

###########################################################
# CCW what we do
###########################################################
event = {
    id = 90000402
    country = MAN
    random = no
    
    style = 2
    picture = "news_paper"
    name = "CCW"
    desc = "Desc:TODO"
    
    trigger = {
        war = { country = CHC country = CHI }
        flag = ManInter
    }


    date = { day = 15 month = june year = 1948 }
    offset = 10
    deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1963 }
    
    action = {
        ai_chance = 10
        name = "Stay neutral"
        command = { type = dissent value = 1 }           
    }
    
    action = {
        ai_chance = 45
        name = "War with all Chinas"
        command = { type = war which = CHC    }           
        command = { type = war which = CHI    }       
    }

    action = {
        ai_chance = 45
        name = "Fight only commie"
        command = { type = war which = CHC    }           
    }
    
}

event = {
    id = 90000403
    country = MAN
    random = no
    
    style = 2
    picture = "news_paper"
    name = "Temporary alliance"
    desc = "Desc:TODO"
    
    trigger = {
        war = { country = CHC country = MAN }       
        NOT = {
            war = { country = CHI country = MAN }       
        }
    }


    date = { day = 15 month = june year = 1948 }
    offset = 10
    deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1963 }
    
    action = {
        ai_chance = 10
        name = "Stay neutral"
        command = { type = dissent value = 1 }           
    }
    

    action = {
        ai_chance = 90
        name = "Propose alliance Nationalist"
        command = { type = trigger which = 90000404    }                   
    }
    
}

event = {
    id = 90000404
    country = CHI
    random = no
    
    style = 2
    picture = "news_paper"
    name = "Temporary alliance"
    desc = "Desc:TODO"
    

    action = {
        ai_chance = 10
        name = "No way"
        command = { type = dissent value = 1 }           
    }
    

    action = {
        ai_chance = 90
        name = "Alliance with Manchukuo"
        command = { type = alliance which = MAN }   
    }
    
}

event = {
    id = 90000405
    country = CHI
    random = no
    
    style = 2
    picture = "news_paper"
    name = "Temporary alliance - Switch side"
    desc = "Desc:TODO"
    
    trigger = {         
        NOT = {
            exists = CHC
        }
    }


    date = { day = 15 month = june year = 1948 }
    offset = 10
    deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1963 }
    
    action = {
        ai_chance = 50
        name = "Release alliance"
        command = { type = leave_alliance when = 1 }
    }
    

    action = {
        ai_chance = 50
        name = "Switch side"
        command = { type = leave_alliance when = 1 }
        command = { type = war which = MAN    }   
    }
    
}
 

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Did you mean something like this?:

"After the invasion of Japan and the fall of the mainland, the Kwantung army refused to surrender to the Western barbarians. Their survival was ensured, because a chaotic storm enveloped the world. The Axis won the bloody war against their enemies and the Soviet giant crumbled. The Chinese have unsuccesfully attacked the defence lines of Manchuria and their civil war started again. The Allied forces invaded Korea, but after their death toll reached unprecedented levels in multiple fronts in the war, they dug in and did not cross the Manchurian border. The Kwantung leadership agreed to a cease-fire. They were bloodied and almost beaten, but the sudden breathing space gave them a chance.
Now after years of peace the Manchuria leadership needs to decide their fate and how to proceed. One possible option would be to restart the Chinese war and join the civil war as a third faction. The second one, which is favored by wealthy semi-independent generals is isolationism and the continuing survival with shared power."
 

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WW2 in Manchuria:

When the honorable Kwantung Army crossed the Yalu in 1931, no one would have thought that the entire future of Japan would rest in these provinces. In these provinces we set up the Empire of Manchuko, led by the last Chinese emperor. The acquisition of these provinces would prove to be a great boon for the Japanese economy. Cheap minerals would flow into the mainland as proper mining techniques were taught to the Manchurian barbarians. Manchuko would also prove to be a great launch pad for the invasion of China. The American puppet republic of China, had spent there time since 31 planning revenge against the free people of Manchuko. Chinese aggression would cause the Marco-Polo incident, were our valiant soldiers were brutalized by the Chinese dogs. In response, we launched a full scale invasion. Many great victories were won in the beginning of the invasion, but it would be the incompetence of the navy that would doom the enterprise. The navy launched an ill fated war against the Yankee barbarians and their European puppets. Decisive defeats at the Midway in 42, and Guadalcanal in 43 would guarantee our defeat. It was only the surrender of the Soviet union, and the refocus of the American war machine to Europe that would stall our inevitable defeat. When the war ended in Europe, the Americans turned their full attentions to us. The Phillipines would be invaded and conquered by General Macarthur in early 45. US marines would capture Okinawa and Iwo Jima by the summer. General Patton, now deployed to China, would crush our forces in late 45. What would finally force the mainlands surrender would be the quadruple nuclear bombings of Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Osaka, and Tokyo. The cowards and traitors would sign the Easter armistice in 1946, but we would not surrender. In response to our valiant resistance, the Yankee Imperialists would invade prosperous Korea. The Korean campaign would devastate the peninsula, and cause hundreds of thousands of casualties on both sides. Despite our resistance, the Yankees would reach the Yalu by fall 1946. While militarily they were on the cusps of victory, the home front was sick of war. Demoralized by the failure to beat Germany, and distraught by the massive losses taken in the pacific campaigns, the American populace wanted the war to end. On October 27, 1946 the Yalu armistice was signed between the Empire of Manchuko and The United states. While we had protected our independence, we could in no way claim victory. The mainland had been lost, and with it the Emperor. Our honor will be forever stained by the failure to defend him. The war was finally over, but it was replaced with a peace that no one wanted.


How was that?
 

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ok, got a description: "With the fall of the Empire of Japan to the United States of America, the Kwantung Army has been waiting in Manchuria for a chance to restart the War, unfortunately the Manchurian Aristocracy (with tactical approval of the Emperor) had overthrown the rule of the Kwantung Army. Now, Manchuria is at a crossroads being between two routes of expansion. 1 option suggested by the Emperor himself is intervening in the Chinese Civil War to restore our glorious rule over China which had lasted 3 centuries before being overthrown by the forces of Yuan Shikai. However, we have another choice that is remaining neutral in the hopes that everybody forgets about our service to Japan and lets us live in peace?"

This is for the CCW event

In order for this to make sense there needs to be an event about overthrowing the Kwantung Army.
 
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Just defeated both the Siberian Republic and Mongolia and I almost had the far-eastern republic, but the US managed to take it first and installed a liberal regime. What happens now? Will I be able to re-unify the USSR?
 

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Just defeated both the Siberian Republic and Mongolia and I almost had the far-eastern republic, but the US managed to take it first and installed a liberal regime. What happens now? Will I be able to re-unify the USSR?

Yep, you can re-unify Soviet Union but without the Primorsk provinces.
If you want retake the provinces, you need declare war at the allies block.
 

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A few ideas for the Wehrmacht path and others:

- If they defeat Italy, they would also probably divide it. They wouldn't make RK's, but they would do Operational Zones, as they did for instance here:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/Italian_social_republic_map.png as you can see they created two operational zones. Practically occupied territories which were sucked dry. I think they would have used this idea later on too.
- There could be an event for them about the Protectorate of Moravia and the Czech territories
- The Pindo-Macedonian Principality (which is usually called Principality of Pindus) should still exist on the map. It was created in 1941 and not many things would change in that frontier. It could be disbanded by Italy, but it should still be there
 

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Yep, you can re-unify Soviet Union but without the Primorsk provinces.
If you want retake the provinces, you need declare war at the allies block.
Thanks, Perfidious Americans eh? haha. Just noticed the expanded options for the USSR like focusing on Asia or Europe. Are there any major differences focusing on either of the choices?
 

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Thanks, Perfidious Americans eh? haha. Just noticed the expanded options for the USSR like focusing on Asia or Europe. Are there any major differences focusing on either of the choices?

Well, Soviet Union path will be review in the next version.
The first idea, when we've maded Soviet Union area was an expansion in Asia to made a Socialist Euro-Asian Union (SEAU) 'cause one member of my team was the "1964" team leader and our ideas was made a link between the mod (a new "1964" mod, "Thunder in the Sky", is now developing by @Ericafaq ).
I think it's better focus on Asia, you can spread revolution in the asian countries or declare war directly.
 

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Well, Soviet Union path will be review in the next version.
The first idea, when we've maded Soviet Union area was an expansion in Asia to made a Socialist Euro-Asian Union (SEAU) 'cause one member of my team was the "1964" team leader and our ideas was made a link between the mod (a new "1964" mod, "Thunder in the Sky", is now developing by @Ericafaq ).
I think it's better focus on Asia, you can spread revolution in the asian countries or declare war directly.

Very helpful, I thought that might be the end goal of that route, I'd imagine taking the Europe choice would give you more options for when Hitler dies and the Axis crumbles. I'm also guessing the next update for the USSR would involve more options for the Siberian Republic? A different USSR, that kind of thing?
 

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Very helpful, I thought that might be the end goal of that route, I'd imagine taking the Europe choice would give you more options for when Hitler dies and the Axis crumbles. I'm also guessing the next update for the USSR would involve more options for the Siberian Republic? A different USSR, that kind of thing?

Well, yes. These are the original plan more or less