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the americans didnt gave greenland back to denmark because of the arctic route to the soviet union
here the nazis woulndt give it to the italians because of bombimg in case of ww3 Malta and africa(Cairo, Lybia, etc)

No, the americans kept greenland because Denmark is allied to the axis, while Italy is allied with Germany so the italians would let the germans keep their airplanes there, there is no reason to keep it occupied
 

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No, the americans kept greenland because Denmark is allied to the axis, while Italy is allied with Germany so the italians would let the germans keep their airplanes there, there is no reason to keep it occupied

I was speaking of the americans AFTER the liberation of denmark, in RL but the nazis could argue that if circumstances change, they have a base there (see the race conflict; the reich made a difference between northern europeans and mediterranean people) (from the alternatehistoryhub "what if nazi germany won world war 2"
 

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There is no reason to keep that territories as I stated, the germans could keep their garrisons in the area even after giving them to the italians (why the kurwaa would Germany keep athens and some minor islands if the italians can do the same anyway?), the italians also have the regia marina to help them

Plus, Greenland still is part of Dernmark in OTL
 

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Yeah, but america build airfields there for b52 bombers and after the cold war, they gave it back to the danish. As i said in another way some germans like hermann goring would argue to hold such a strategic position for bombing africa, for the event, that italy breaks away, and after the end of hitler italy occupies it anyway
 

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Also the nazis considered the mediterraen as a lower race, witch would automatically lead to conflicts. So why should the germans give important strategic positions to "untermenschen"
 
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If Hitler pushed italy from the axis they would immediately join the allies as they did OTL, a invasion would cause WWIII

also, as taken from wikipedia "The United States occupation of Greenland continued until 1945" The USA did garrisioned greenland with their jets, but under Danish supervision as part of the unified Nato doctrine

Again, no reason to don't give the agean islands to the italians
 

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If Hitler pushed italy from the axis they would immediately join the allies as they did OTL, a invasion would cause WWIII

also, as taken from wikipedia "The United States occupation of Greenland continued until 1945" The USA did garrisioned greenland with their jets, but under Danish supervision as part of the unified Nato doctrine

Again, no reason to don't give the agean islands to the italians


If i were the nazis i wouldnt give back so strategic positions to the italians, also to join the allies they would have to give up all their colonial empire. Also the nazis would give back the bases when no war could break out anymore (its cold war)
 
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If i were the nazis i wouldnt give back so strategic positions to the italians

But they would, the italians are their allies and they have the regia marina to support the defence

to join the allies they would have to give up all their colonial empire

They already lost their colonial empire, maybe by joining the allies they would regain Lybia at least
 

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But they would, the italians are their allies and they have the regia marina to support the defence


They already lost their colonial empire, maybe by joining the allies they would regain Lybia at least
Simply: no their colonial empire is greece, and the allies fought hard against the italians at el allamein
How would you explain at home, that the inferior enemies of the second world war are now true brothers of america?

And there is already a racial divide between them.
But for all it shall be the players choice to decide what to do with this islands maybe by event for italian cores
 

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Greece should be a italian puppet under Ioannis Rallis, the only thing that would change is that they would have free elections

There is no reason to the islands start under german control as I stated before, do you have any argument to support the german occupation of that places?
 

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Greece should be a italian puppet under Ioannis Rallis, the only thing that would change is that they would have free elections

There is no reason to the islands start under german control as I stated before, do you have any argument to support the german occupation of that places?

Wtf?
And why the fuck should a fascist puppet have free elections?
 
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Just because it is too painfully hard to read my comment :p, I gonna explain:

If Italy join the allies, the hellenic state would switch sides too and get free elections

Then mussolini has to say to his people: hey were now on the side of the weak motherfuckers we hated during the war and we had to give up our Colonial empire( no way the allies would allow und he italians to have a greek puppet), but hey trust me

Simply, his goverment would fall, which is in no interrest of a dictator
So no switching sides with mussolini, maybe with a weak democratic giverment
 
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Also the nazis considered the mediterraen as a lower race, witch would automatically lead to conflicts. So why should the germans give important strategic positions to "untermenschen"

hey were now on the side of the weak motherfuckers we hated during the war and we had to give up our Colonial empire(
So the germans occupy the italian territory and invade their country and Mussolini stays true to the germans until they storm rome and arrest him and his personal

10/10 best leader strategy ever
 

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What the interest for total democratization of all Reich "Friends"? Former Vichy French have events about "rebuilding" policy aka Soviet perestroika,establishement of relations with USA and UK,Free French.Now some people want to do a same for Italy.So lets add "Scorpions-winds of change" as main theme of mod.
About Italian Lebensraum-Greece not a minor nation,Italofication will partially finished somewhere in a middle of 90s I guess
 

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What the interest for total democratization of all Reich "Friends"? Former Vichy French have events about "rebuilding" policy aka Soviet perestroika,establishement of relations with USA and UK,Free French.Now some people want to do a same for Italy.So lets add "Scorpions-winds of change" as main theme of mod.
About Italian Lebensraum-Greece not a minor nation,Italofication will partially finished somewhere in a middle of 90s I guess

LOL, I love your Scorpion's reference. Are you really only 21?

And I agree, I don't understand Gupka's obsession with democratizing former Axis powers.
 

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So the germans occupy the italian territory and invade their country and Mussolini stays true to the germans until they storm rome and arrest him and his personal

10/10 best leader strategy ever

I never said, that hitler would lead a war aiganst southern eruope. Watch the video of alternatehistoryhub. The racial policy of the reich would automatically lead to diviidence between southerns and northerns
Hitler would allow italy to exist for the sake of stabillity and because of the italian navy
 
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Hi guys,

I'm making a small improvement package for the Hellenic State (ministers, leaders and Gov.).

If you have any materials/sources in English/French/Spanish on the subject, please send me a PM. Suggestions welcomed too :)

I would especially appreciate a leader list suggestion by a greek speaker, as it is quite difficult for me to find detailled infos on the Security Bataillons' officer pool for exemple, which could be a great source. A few far rights officers of the Greek Army from the 50's to the early 70's would be amazing too.

Thanks!
 
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Hi guys,

I'm making a small improvement package for the Hellenic State (ministers, leaders and Gov.).

If you have any materials/sources in English/French/Spanish on the subject, please send me a PM. Suggestions welcomed too :)

I would especially appreciate a leader list suggestion by a greek speaker, as it is quite difficult for me to find detailled infos on the Security Bataillons' officer pool for exemple, which could be a great source. A few far rights officers of the Greek Army from the 50's to the early 70's would be amazing too.

Thanks!


I'm sending you leaders right now ^_^