As it took some time for the AI air forces to engage in the Caribbean I wonder where they were initially stationed? Any idea about the current home base for all of these planes? Also, I too am wondering where my doppelganger might be serving.
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Wherever those planes are based, it's likely horribly overstacked, which might create a few opportunities for us to make paradrops that'd make the Massacre of Alexandria look comparatively bloodless.
That's what I'm waiting, too. I just don't know whether it'll be possible to find such a target lightly enough defended for paradrop surprise. In the case of Alexandria the defender was already routed when the Fallschirms jumped, but it will be considerably harder to do that in the Americans. Perhaps when further inland, when the fronts are moving, an opportunity will present itself.
TheExecuter I think you are being a little unfair. I think I always had the initiative. The AI took temporary advantage of my being slightly over extended and was quite successful at that. I am now no longer over-extended and the AI has gone tortoise on us again.
Brad1 One slight error, south america is tropical and southern hemisphere so the seasons are rather different. Now would be good seasonally for north america but otherwise who knows.
Pilus Prior Looking slightly ahead you are commanding a tactical bomber group in Cuba and have gained 4
skill levels, now skill 9 with 20 experience towards skill 10.
WhisperingDeath The AI delay in engaging seems consistent with other theatres. The AI handling of air units means they are always at low org in any new theatre and engage after the theatre has been static for a significant time. In this case the mainland areas have been static for some time so the air power suddenly springs into life.
Lord Strange The skies are probably light grey with them at the moment, they will be turning black when the luftwaffe arrives in full force.
VladAntlerkov, Kasakka If you look at some of the posts you can see some aircraft on the ground suggesting significant numbers around the southern UA coast with no realistic chance of any airborne airfield strike before the general invasion begins
Brad1 One slight error, south america is tropical and southern hemisphere so the seasons are rather different. Now would be good seasonally for north america but otherwise who knows.
Pilus Prior Looking slightly ahead you are commanding a tactical bomber group in Cuba and have gained 4
skill levels, now skill 9 with 20 experience towards skill 10.WhisperingDeath The AI delay in engaging seems consistent with other theatres. The AI handling of air units means they are always at low org in any new theatre and engage after the theatre has been static for a significant time. In this case the mainland areas have been static for some time so the air power suddenly springs into life.
Lord Strange The skies are probably light grey with them at the moment, they will be turning black when the luftwaffe arrives in full force.
VladAntlerkov, Kasakka If you look at some of the posts you can see some aircraft on the ground suggesting significant numbers around the southern UA coast with no realistic chance of any airborne airfield strike before the general invasion begins
April 12th-16th 1944
04:00 April 12th 1944
04:00 April 12th 1944
If the AI keeps this up it is going to lose a lot of air units totally destroyed.
Other air actions include
4 NAVs intercepted in transfer mode
1 Strategic Bomber
Bombed some Brazilian DDs
1 x Guiana Basin
02:00 April 13th 1944
This is moderately good news. It represents the beginning of the end of current upgrades (it will take a few days to finish them all) and makes our airdrop capability a tiny bit more powerful.
1 x Maizel Islands
1 x Northern Guiana Basin
3 advanced strategic bombers intercepted
1 x Maizel Islands
22:00 April 14th 1944
As you can see the air patrols still haven’t completed their work although this is just a single bomber group.
1 x Maizel Islands
13:00 April 15th 1944
The Bahamas sea area contains just a few too many provinces and the air cover keeps missing the enemy bombers.
15:00 April 15th 1944
Sometimes we get slightly bigger battles like this one where I have managed to sink 7 destroyers out 4. Good going lads. Good to see their admiral is too embarrassed to show his face.
19:00 April 15th 1944
Got the bastard. This unit won’t be flying again soon.
00:00 April 16th 1944
This isn’t very exciting but I am slowly working my way through all these org improvements for the interceptors. This is an important step towards getting a more flexible (ie transfer tolerant) air superiority force.
01:00 April 16th 1944
It’s been about a week since bombing of Cuba started but I now have some semi-operational interceptors flying patrol. They haven’t hit the original bombing squadron but this transferring group will do nicely. Air losses are not heavy (it is night) but I now have a semblance of air superiority over Cuba.
02:00 April 16th 1944
The blockade of the Panama Canal continues to be the richest hunting ground for enemy ships.
1 x South Bermuda
1 x Maizel Islands
1 x Gulf of Venezuela
1 x Maizel Islands
plus many air battles
What's the latest on the troop transfer across the South Atlantic? Where is the build to take place? Are you waiting for new naval and air base capacity? Any plan to bother with the small islands and chains dotting the southern reaches of the Atlantic (i.e St Helena or the Falklands)?
Any idea on the plan of attack as far as landings? Central America provides very little room to manuever and South America has tougher terrain. America's terrain is pretty tough with the 10 million troops lining the beaches. Panama looks like a great place to land if it weren't for the 130 divisions sitting in Colon.
I just found this. Dont know how it took me a year to do so. And now I am angry that there is 225 pages of dial up speed downloading to read.
But! Go for gold! I'm in from here
But! Go for gold! I'm in from here
Welcome to the Fatherland. First you must bow to the statue of our Lord and MAster, Kanitalan.
Beakmiester :rofl:
WhisperingDeath Troop build up is proceeding nicely with anything that hasn't been used yet forming a thick carpet across the whole of Martinique. I guess the whole island is now one great big combined military camp, supply dump, naval base and major airfield. I didn't know the island was so big.
Chief Savage Ma At this point there is no plan of attack. The natural approach should be to target the enemy armed forces but the main body is a little inaccessible. More planning will be presented after completion of force build up.
Raaritsgozilla Welcome to the fun, it is going to take a long time to catch up on dial-up but at least the forum won't be messing you around so much now.
Lord Strange
WhisperingDeath Troop build up is proceeding nicely with anything that hasn't been used yet forming a thick carpet across the whole of Martinique. I guess the whole island is now one great big combined military camp, supply dump, naval base and major airfield. I didn't know the island was so big.
Chief Savage Ma At this point there is no plan of attack. The natural approach should be to target the enemy armed forces but the main body is a little inaccessible. More planning will be presented after completion of force build up.
Raaritsgozilla Welcome to the fun, it is going to take a long time to catch up on dial-up but at least the forum won't be messing you around so much now.
Lord Strange
April 17th-23rd 1944
04:00 April 17th 1944
04:00 April 17th 1944
This strategic bomber group is intercepted twice (this is the first battle) and seems to have become obsessed with transfer between north and South America. It’s the old story of destroying the AI air force as it pointlessly and repeatedly redeploys. North America would be a perfectly good base for attacking my Caribbean holdings but for some reason moving elsewhere is a little too attractive.
My two TAC groups that were badly damaged earlier on have now been grounded but air cover is still being carried out by other tactical bomber groups.
1 x Maizel
Various minor air battles
21:00 April 18th 1944
This is the usual depressing submarine engagement. The u-boats manage to inflict a fair bit of damage but suffer 30 pts of damage in return. I mean, come on, they outnumber the enemy combat vessels 12:1 and still have severe difficulties.
14:00 April 20th 1944
I think we are coming to the end of the enemy’s operational naval bomber force but if I ground my air defence force things could start up again any time.
15:00 April 20th 1944
A support fleet arrives and finishes off the enemy fleet but rather amazingly the u-boats rush in and one gets sunk. Oh *** they are so useless, I really wish I had never built them (add your own selection of expletives). They have singularly failed to perform any useful purpose and a few dozen destroyers would it seems have been much more valuable. I guess this is why there were major changes for Armageddon.
1 x Maizel Islands
1 x Gulf of Venezuela
22:00 April 20th 1944
This is at least something vaguely useful. I have ignored all of the radar techs so far since they don’t actually do anything in game except to radar stations and since they are essentially defensive I don’t build them. This is definitely a deficiency in the game which is fixed by many of the mods.
Canadian force counts are a complete lie since they are involved in major cross loaning of forces with the other allies.
13:00 April 23rd 1944
It looks like the US has plenty of naval bombers left operational. Not only have I caught a significant group (and given them a severe pounding) but it looks like there is another group of 4 operating to the north of the Bahamas. I guess the air defence missions are going to have to continue for some time.
1 x Yucatan Channel
16:00 April 23rd 1944
We have a bit of activity developing east of the Antilles what initially looks like a dangerous US fleet which isn’t and a minor Argentine presence. The US fleet has intercepted a troop transport operation but there are 8 NAVs overhead and they really aren’t going to do very well.
20:00 April 23rd 1944
After the battle the main transport group present is showing some significant damage suggesting that a few repairs might be sensible before sending it out again. Causing minor delays is about the only success against the troop build up that the allies have had so far. I do have a phobia about losing troops during naval transport so I am being quite careful about the risk.
WhisperingDeath
WhisperingDeath Its just one of the side effects of messing with the game, it is all too easy if there are multiple alliances to end up with multiple wars. Itend not to worry about it until I find I am on both sides (which can be a little awkward).
WhisperingDeath Its just one of the side effects of messing with the game, it is all too easy if there are multiple alliances to end up with multiple wars. Itend not to worry about it until I find I am on both sides (which can be a little awkward).
April 24th-25th 1944
03:00 April 24th 1944
03:00 April 24th 1944
This interception is what we are after. This won’t be enough to finish off these bombers but heavy losses ensue. In some ways it should be a fair fight since both sides sort of have the same make up but mine are all jet aircraft but …
05:00 April 24th 1944
Sadly I haven’t shot them up enough to stop them sinking a couple of transports.
10:00 April 25th 1944
The next intercept is at night and is possibly the same group but it looks suspiciously undamaged and has suspiciously even org levels. One has to wonder just how many naval bombers are starting to come out of the woodwork.
1 x Gulf of Venezuela
13:00 April 25th 1944
Further south is another flock of them intercepted in a much more satisfactory scale. It does look like this air war is going to continue for a good while more.
13:00 April 25th 1944 b
The Luftwaffe also gets to bomb some Brazilians as well. This isn’t very interesting but showing most of the naval bombing is a good illustration of the now much reduced lebels of naval activity all across the theatre.
18:00 April 25th 1944
Every intercept shows a different enemy air leader making it very difficult to decide when and if we are ever seeing the same group twice.
18:00 April 25th 1944 b
More naval bombers intercepted and probably badly damaged. This shows the high level of US forces on the mainland – notice the 22 air units based at Charleston. A definite warning of potential unpleasantness.
21:00 April 25th 1944
Further out we have our first intercept by the small interceptor force based in Bermuda. This demonstrates the true value of taking that island. It will pay for itself quickly just as an airbase. Just to illustrate this battle a little
Int VIII 22 AA 16 AD +25% versus bombers
NAV III (+ESC) 2+6 AA 4+5 AD
Their attacks are less than the defence of one interceptor so call it 8 shots versus 110 shots of which 101 are double as they exceed their defence so equal to 211 shots. Gives some idea of the casualty ratio and why despite the big improvement in air combat values the escort fighters have minimal effect.
1 x Maizel Islands
April 26th-27th 1944
06:00 April 26th 1944
More naval bombers sighted but this is just a zero org air transfer. I really don’t understand the supreme carelessness of the AI with its air units. This is just target practice.
11:00 April 26th 1944
This group was intercepted yesterday in exactly the same location but then they were full strength. I guess we all know the conclusion of this battle and some of these bomber squadrons will never bother us again.
11:00 April 26th 1944 b
Another squadron is picked up to the south and subject to severe punishment. I would guess that my air patrols are starting to wear out the enemy and soon naval bomber operations will stop completely. I now have some interceptors operating here with good org levels.
There continue to be significant other air battles involved low or zero org air units in transfer mode. I am ignoring these as they represent nothing but target practice and a few enemy losses. They have no operational impact on the game.
14:00 April 26th 1944
This is just an illustration of the consequences of the persistent air transfer operations the AI is trying. These squadrons will have been full strength not long ago and are now in deep trouble and faced with imminent destructions.
02:00 April 27th 1944
These naval bombers have seen better days and may not survive although night action does offer some protection.
09:00 April 27th 1944
Finally after all this time my troops have fully reoccupied southern Australia. No effort has been made to hurry things here as there seems little point. I suspect further landings are now (finally) unlikely.
11:00 April 27th 1944
I’m guessing this naval bomber will not survive.
1 x Maizel Islands
23:00 April 27th 1944
This is a clear indication that the problem is still not resolved and in this case we seem to have a convoy outside of our air protection zone. In fact, I don’t believe air protection is possible here at the current time.
06:00 April 26th 1944
More naval bombers sighted but this is just a zero org air transfer. I really don’t understand the supreme carelessness of the AI with its air units. This is just target practice.
11:00 April 26th 1944
This group was intercepted yesterday in exactly the same location but then they were full strength. I guess we all know the conclusion of this battle and some of these bomber squadrons will never bother us again.
11:00 April 26th 1944 b
Another squadron is picked up to the south and subject to severe punishment. I would guess that my air patrols are starting to wear out the enemy and soon naval bomber operations will stop completely. I now have some interceptors operating here with good org levels.
There continue to be significant other air battles involved low or zero org air units in transfer mode. I am ignoring these as they represent nothing but target practice and a few enemy losses. They have no operational impact on the game.
14:00 April 26th 1944
This is just an illustration of the consequences of the persistent air transfer operations the AI is trying. These squadrons will have been full strength not long ago and are now in deep trouble and faced with imminent destructions.
02:00 April 27th 1944
These naval bombers have seen better days and may not survive although night action does offer some protection.
09:00 April 27th 1944
Finally after all this time my troops have fully reoccupied southern Australia. No effort has been made to hurry things here as there seems little point. I suspect further landings are now (finally) unlikely.
11:00 April 27th 1944
I’m guessing this naval bomber will not survive.
1 x Maizel Islands
23:00 April 27th 1944
This is a clear indication that the problem is still not resolved and in this case we seem to have a convoy outside of our air protection zone. In fact, I don’t believe air protection is possible here at the current time.
More air battles. God future scuba divers in the carribean are going to have a lot of airplane wrecks to llok at.
Wouldn't all of those 1-2 unit air groups be the reason for the artificial inflation of the intelligence number (if one were to accept the 'intelligence counts groups, not units' hypothesis)? The mysterious lack of fighters would be a bit of a puzzle though, though... Maybe the AI constant rebasing is the reason (as in, AI can't find a sea province in range of the Interceptors, so it rebases, repeat)?