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This could lead to the Reich being able to claim all of Czechoslovakia instead of being forced to accept a puppet state in Slovakia or Hungarian dominance over Slovakia.

With all due respect, sir... how? This is DD 1.2, not HoI2 1.0!
 

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EDIT: Just looked at the events files, and realised I haven't played a '36 campaign using that trick since HoI2 1.00, as you say, since DD obviously has thought about this. :eek:o Motion withdrawn.
 
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Memorandum of Inspektor-General den Panzertruppen
(Please note that pink was insignia colour of german tankers, I would like to use it when speaking strategy, herr Fuehrer)


I'm very sad that you have chosen to go with interceptors, but I guess that is something fuehrer must discuss with the chief of Luftwaffe.


As the inspector of Panzertruppen, from Luftwaffe I hope to see tactical bombers to reduce opponents organisation level, as I imagine that we will be outnumbered in the beginning.

I prefer offensive operations. I'd hope we have 9-12 armoured divisions when the war starts. Same amount of motorized divisions. I present that we should take Czehcs and austria by events, and France would be first country that would see offensive warfare as soon as we are ready, perhaps before danzig. We must note that french have to spread their forces around their empire and they have worse doctrines, so we can DoW them even if we have less divisions.

Panzertruppen would like to prepare opertation specifically with Fallschirmjäger corps for fast pocketing and capturing provinves vital for advance. If we manage to get at least 6 FJ divisions by 1939 we might go straight through Maginot line defeating countries one by one. Another option is the north plains of belgium. The largest threats on continental europe are France and Soviets, so I think it's better to eliminate them as fast as possible.
 

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Have you ever played 1.2, 1.3 or Doomsday? That option doesn't appear if there's no Hungary, it was added to prevent exploits.


EDIT: I was too late :eek:o
 

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Forget about Hungary, you won't get Slovakia that way, as of HoI 1.2 the option to partition with Hungary only shows up if Hungary actually exists. Indeed, the "End of Czechoslovakia" will be quite a difficult event considering your strategy, as you either end up with a puppet or an ally unless you choose to back down.

I'd recommend declaring on Luxemburg as soon as the game starts, usually that way you can use the dissent reduction from the Rheinland event but as you won't get dissent from the DoW that won't matter to you. But it's a national province with 5 IC and more than enough resources to use these 5 IC and I've never had anyone interfere in this.
 

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Kanitatlan said:
3. Inspectors (various): how many mountain, para, marine divisions should I build

I'd completely sacrifice the Marine Divisions for the Mountaineers.
Marine Div. bind manpower which could be used better otherwise. Apart from their increased Amphib. Assault Eff. they do not offer much in actual land-combat (Swamp, Jungle bonuses etc. can be neglected imho) while Mountaineers are much more versatile and actually do the second best job in amphib. assaults and if used with strong aerial support and paras alongside Amphib. tasks won't be much harder (altough it will be more logistically demanding).

I would have to say something on the naval part as well but I am not sure if you will listen to somebody else other than your staff members (or if I even have the rights to do so ;) ).
 

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Hm? What? Panzers?

*Wipes off his glasses and dusts off all these old panzer plans...*

Aldous, I believe I must speak to you immediately...! :p

Kan, how much "fluff" are you going to do? Are you going to describe battles, perhaps show some of the action "on the ground"? I was curious if you wanted to stick with the historical panzer designs, or perhaps go for something a little... different.
 

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I recommend building industry! You could no doubt use all the TC you can get your hands on :|
 

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I recommend building industry! You could no doubt use all the TC you can get your hands on :|

And more industry means more factories for building my lovely panzers!
 

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Kanitatlan said:
Questions
1. What can I realistically do prior to the Poland event
2. Navy minister: how big a navy do you need.
3. Inspectors (various): how many mountain, para, marine divisions should I build
4. Any comments on slider selections
5. Any comments on minister selections.

1-Go for everything in the Czech event, maybe invade hungary when the bell. dies down
2-If we're going to defeat the RN, the USN, and every other navy in the world we're going to need lots of carriers with massive land-air based support.
3-Not my area :( but woulden't mind taking over Chief of research
4-I think we should go with Central Planning as we're really going to need those IC's later on when our TC shoots through the roof
5-The head of state selection will hurt our ability to expand in the pre-war years, but will work to our advantage once war gears up.
As for the Armaments Minister, completly agree, but only after we've researched the IC improvement techs
And as for the Chief of the Air Force, Our bombers will do well enough when destroying the enemy, but our fighters will need all the help they can get against the super stacks

I also disagree with going through the Maginot line, it will cause unacceptable casulties and smash our ORG, and in the time it takes to get back up, the enemy will have rebased all their bombers and dug in their divisions. Let us not forget that they will outnumber us far more than usual in everything, from tanks to planes to grunts on the grounds. If we try to go through the line, we will throw away the advantages of blitzkrieg and allow our enemies the upper hand.
 
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Can I make an odd request? Obviously, you have modded it a large amount. Are the techs and brigade edits set after your first save? If so, I'd love to get my hands on it and test it out. Especially the removal of a lot of the very hard penalties, but the extreme boost to the AI IC. Sounds like a fun game. Bundling everything would probably be a pain.

As for strategy, I'd just go with a build up till Poland. You'll have a lot of time this game. Why incur wrath before you are prepared?
 

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I proposed attacking maginot line with paratroopers, who ignore forts. I believe that 6 FJ divisions with aerial support can defeat atleast 7 FR infantry div, especially if we attach them with artillery.
 

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Kanitatlan said:
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1. What can I realistically do prior to the Poland event

I agree with immediately grabbing luxembourg. I have never had anyone intervene (and if they ever did I would restart :D ).
I also think you should reconsider grabbing northern Italy (down to florence-ish). This would grab a nice bit of IC (and more TC). You also then have another boarder with the French, allowing you to invade without going through the maginot line or through Belgium and Holland (I have found them to be useful trading partners, invading them gains you little IMO except a route arround those lvl 10 forts). The southern route has level 1 forts but a longer route to Paris. Even if you do not invade through the south the French will cover the route spreading them thinner. If you leave Italy alone they may become a distration for the UK in the med. All in all I think its worth taking Northern Italy

This raises a question, are you willing to use gamey tatctics?

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3. Inspectors (various): how many mountain, para, marine divisions should I build

I don't think you need that many marines initially. I assume they are only going to be used initially to grab the UK and Ireland?

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5. Any comments on minister selections.

IMO you should wait to see if the 1.2 patch fixes the ai suicidal air tactics before selecting your air minister. For your chief of staff I agree with taking the +25% manpower initially. But should consider a +10% speed or +20% org regen when war breaks out.
 

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Yes, I think you should release this to the public as a mod. I like the "AI bonuses, but no player penalties" thing. That's why I never play Very Hard - I can't stand the idea of arbitrarily being weakened. I like the idea of simply finding a tougher opponant.
 

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Mahrabal said:
Kanitatlan said:
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I agree with immediately grabbing luxembourg. I have never had anyone intervene (and if they ever did I would restart :D ).
I also think you should reconsider grabbing northern Italy (down to florence-ish). This would grab a nice bit of IC (and more TC). You also then have another boarder with the French, allowing you to invade without going through the maginot line or through Belgium and Holland (I have found them to be useful trading partners, invading them gains you little IMO except a route arround those lvl 10 forts). The southern route has level 1 forts but a longer route to Paris. Even if you do not invade through the south the French will cover the route spreading them thinner. If you leave Italy alone they may become a distration for the UK in the med. All in all I think its worth taking Northern Italy

Think about it like this, if we take on Italy, we're going to have to annex them. And don't waste you're time with luxombourge, wait to annex them until after you're done with the Frence, that way you prevent the french from using that provence as a jump-off point. If we want a second front, i recomend getting involved in the spanish civil war and annex the winner. That will give you 2 very distant fronts, forcing the french to split their military.

Another problem with the Italy route is the the Mountains and such, the french will be able to slow you down long enough to fortify the posisition, and if you piss the UK and france off enough, they may decide to DOW on you for taking on Italy.

Also keep one thing in mind, the more agressive we are, the more the allies benefit with the gearing events.
 

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I wouldn't build any para's. Those transport planes are simply to expensive, even panzers are cheaper. You better invest those IC's in the navy, because you will need to build lots of ships with the new submarine stats if you plan to invade Britain, which I think is the plan. :D
 

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markiep said:
I wouldn't build any para's. Those transport planes are simply to expensive, even panzers are cheaper. You better invest those IC's in the navy, because you will need to build lots of ships with the new submarine stats if you plan to invade Britain, which I think is the plan. :D
Paras are pretty useful for invading overseas though, Crete, Malta, Gibraltar, Great Britain, N. Ireland, North Africa even. I'm positive to the idea.