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Kanitatlan: ...Notice the Italian forces in North Africa providing some explanation of where some of the Italians are. They do have well over 100 divisions total so there must be many elsewhere.

that pic seems to show at least 30 Italian divisions in that short stretch of African coast. assuming that is 20 percent of the Italian forces, then how many more Italian divisions would you guess are in Africa? ? ;)

Kanitatlan: ...Over the black sea my interceptor squadrons have switched to naval attack to allay the boredom. They aren’t really going to achieve anything strafing Italian destroyers but they seem to enjoy it so I haven’t the heart to stop them. If nothing else they seem to have achieved some narrowing of the enemy leadership, although I have no idea how they have done it.

perhaps they have perfected the square peg through the round hole technique? ? :D

magnificent updates ! ! :cool:
 
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Damn what a shame it is to have a Crete with no VP... or any other reason of existance, either. It would be a great place to visit (and shoot some Turkeys) for my born-in-the-airs... any hope of seeing an operation of that sort?

Guess not, but I can still ask..

Where are the paratrooper units at the moment, btw? I assume you don't waste TC in stratredloying them, as they can be drop-moved, so they're propably somewhere (being in a train is not "somewhere", deployment pool is not a location).
But, what are your intentions concerning those brave ladz, the creme of your military? Malta, what else?
 

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Kasakka: ...Where are the paratrooper units at the moment, btw?...

IIRC, they are taking Greek lessons ! ! ;)
 

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At last, true World War! All the better chance for true glory! Long live the Fatherland!!

BTW - Nice to see the Eastern Luftwaffe doing its job. I can't speak for the Nav commanders in the West; but it does appear that someone was asleep at the switch. ;)
 

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I have power read through your AAR in about a week, and must say nicely done (so far)!

As a very novice player I must say your analytical approach to the game and this AAR is incredibly helpful-though reading this has ruined my first Barbarossa, making it much easier than I had hoped.

With all those new naval vessels being built I would like to put in my lot as a new Naval commander, and hope that my 36 year winning steak in the game of "Battleship" might qualify me for the command of your new Heavy Cruiser/Battleship? Fleet.

I can't wait to finally follow this story as it unfolds.
 

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Nice so the real world war begin, only the Comitern left at peace, but I suspect we shall soon see war with them as well. It seems like the European campaigns are working out fine although you still lack large ground force on the frontline, but I guess they will soon arrive and annex these small irritating nations in a couple of weeks.
 
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DirtyCommiePuke said:
Was the battleship you sank their level 4? I've not played Italy in ages, but I don't recall one of their original 4 level 1s having that name...
Italy's level IV battleships are of the Littorio class, and the two of them that were built IRL were Littorio and the one our brave navy boys have managed to sink, Vittorio Veneto.
 

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Actually, there were three completed VV clas ships.
Vittorio Veneto (40-48)
Littorio (40-48)
Roma (40-43)
 

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Kanitatlan said:
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14:00 August 19th 1940 c

Here comes, well what is it exactly. Can you believe it, it’s the Persian air force. They can’t be bothered to defend their own country so they are heading for Romania which is suffering much heavier bombing. I guess they aren’t going to get there though. This has to be the most unbalanced air combat seen for a long time but you’ve got to be impressed that Persia has 400 fighters.

Wow, finally done reading this all after a week and a half...great job! You've managed to help me with my newly purchased HOI2. (Just like your AARs helped with HOI)

Regarding the questions about why the AI airforces seemed to want to congregate in England and here in Romania:

I'd like to postulate that the since the AI likes to reinforce to areas where your ground troops are (see your Edge of Darkness), the same idea applies to air units and naval units. For example, during the assault on England, the vast majority of your air units were operating against England and so the AI chose to bring its air units along to "give you a fight." It is no surprise then that if you concentrate your forces, the ai will concentrate its forces to oppose them.

Now in your world war, I think it is reasonable to assume that the ai will attempt to concentrate its air and naval assets in the mediterranean while you smash it. This leads to all sorts of ways to take advantage of the situation...you could close the med with allied fleets inside....or occupy all the "big airfields" while leaving the allies with only the small ones to cram their thousands of obsolete aircraft into...etc. I leave this as an exercise to the master!
 
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Herbert West said:
Actually, there were three completed VV clas ships.
Vittorio Veneto (40-48)
Littorio (40-48)
Roma (40-43)
Dang! You're right. It was sunk by the Germans, the Roma, wasn't it?
 

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DirtyCommiePuke I'm afraid the peace time "arithmetic" is reserved for other games (Victoria really). All the HOI series are entirely about war since the only peacetime activities are genuinely preparion for war.

GhostWriter Unfortunately the concentration of Italians in Egypt cannot be taken as a strong hint about the rest of North Africa. Whilst they really like Egypt the rest may be empty. The real hint is the lack of units in Italy itself. I would send more "reconnaissance" if it wasn't for the fact that I don't much care. I tend to take the view in all things that the only information you need is that which will result in a different decision. I am not going to change the current redeployment process whatever the Italian distribution is.

lifeless It does indeed look like the fun is about to begin. The audience seem to like it if the flurry of posting is anything to go by.

I seem to have escaped any response, so far, from the Russian volunteers.. It will get even more interesting if VILenin notices and posts a Russian "speech".

Kasakka The paratroops are currently concentrating in Athens. They were all sent there straight after their last use by strategic movement. This is quicker than waiting for org recovery twice. They haven't all arrived but there is already some effective drop capability. Athens is an excellent central location and allows drops in southern Italy, north Africa, western Turkey, the Balkans and a couple of provinces in the middle east (Beirut and Tel Aviv). This will act as a useful base for the paras for several weeks so should allow some excellent opportunities.

sbr Welcome to the party. I will try to phase you in as a naval leader when I get the chance.

Lord E I am hoping that the "irritating nations" will provide a little more entertainment than you are suggesting. The position is actually rather precarious although in reality the only risk is the temporary loss of a few provinces. The really serious aspect is that I have lots of strategic moves directly onto borders and disrupting this will cause major time dislocation.

Bafflegab I am hoping the US navy has sufficient strength and replacement resources to put up a good fight despite the AI. If they concentrate a fraction of their strength against me it will cause significant disruption and difficulty. Currently they could easily land in Europe and cause spectacular disruption.

DirtyCommiePuke, Kasakka, Herbert West What suprises me about the Italian BBs is that they haven't built more than they did historically despite the massive IC bonuses. Mind you, it wouldn't suprise me if there were significant Italian builds close to completion.

TheExecuter Nice to have another new reader. Your analysis is probably correct. What really surprises me is that there has been air activity over Persia for some time and yet this is the first appearance (that I have noticed) of the Persian air force.
 

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Short Review

The global war needs it little bit more back up game information to clarify the situation. There is one very important occurrence as a result of the save game editing, event manipulation and so on. All German units that were over enemy territory at the time of the global DOW have been reduced to zero org. I am lucky that the whole process was instantaneous or else they may have been strategically deployed back to Berlin as well. As it is I have several thousand aircraft at zero org that are suddenly out of the campaign until they can recover. This significantly increases the temporary panic since I have a massive reduction in my ability to disrupt enemy advances.

I am now at war with everyone except the comintern so I have immediate needs to prevent the loss of territory to what would otherwise be minor irritants.

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09:00 September 2nd 1940 a

I have 24 mobile divisions and 3 infantry divisions recently arrived on the west coast of France. These have arrived so quickly because they have been brought via sea transport from northern Russia. One panzer corps has arrived so recently that it cannot move yet.

The protection of northern France has been given priority so the first group is heading off to eliminate the Vichy forces at Vichy before they can cause too much chaos. The second group, when they become mobile, must rush over and disrupt the northwards movement of the Vichy forces on the Italian border. These will be capable of disrupting my force concentration north of Italy (red circles) with serious medium term consequences. The drive across Vichy will take about ten days so the Vichy forces have a real opportunity to cause trouble.

The single infantry corps is assigned to take territory and disrupt Vichy operations in south-western France.

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09:00 September 2nd 1940b

The presence of various German naval forces has revealed a lot more about the deployment of Forces in Italy. Despite being at war with Germany for some time now their forces remain concentrated in the south. This is actually harder for me to defeat than if they came north to defend the border but it is still somewhat foolish AI behaviour.

I have a significant infantry force approaching but no mobile divisions. The panzer arm was always intended to be a west branch from Vichy who are already present plus an eastern branch from the forces conquering Romania. The eastern branch is weeks away from availability so the campaign is going to occur in a rather piecemeal fashion. The first issue is that the infantry armies are not due for a long time and the Italian and Vichy forces should be quite capable of disrupting the Turin delivery at least. In fact, I have no idea how I can preserve Turin for the minimum 16 days (it is actually 16 days 12 hours to the first divisions arrive).

My effective fighter force has been halved by org loss and with similar issues further east I don’t see air power being able to rescue the situation. This seems to be a very effective dumping in the ****.

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09:00 September 2nd 1940c

Over Romania we have instantly lost 2/3 of the previous air support. Whilst this is not serious in this theatre it does have serious implications elsewhere as this air support is no longer available for use elsewhere. These CAS groups will need to be evacuated to areas with adequate airfield provision to recover org. Unfortunately these airfields are not nearby and these CAS will lose a lot of their recovered org in returning to the combat zone. It is likely I have lost their effective usage for the best part of a month.

Ground forces already have a good grip of Romania and they will proceed with the current strategy to eliminate that country. The blocking force west of Bulgaria effectively neutralises any threat from Bulgaria and western Turkey so the Balkan theatre remains solidly safe.

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09:00 September 2nd 1940 d

In eastern Turkey the loss of air support is total and critical. These air units are my only chance to control the enemy forces in the area and every single air unit is this area (including Persia) has been brought to zero org. There will be a complete evacuation of air units to allow some org recovery and if there is any enemy advance all German forces will immediately retreat. It is particularly upsetting to have TACs lose their org as their ability to retain org has enabled them to remain in operation throughout all operations. They usually recover org as fast as redeployment removes it despite operating from inadequate airfields. The only redeeming feature of the situation here is the possibility of recovering the situation via operations in Persia.

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09:00 September 2nd 1940 e

The Persian theatre has also lost all its air support. This is awkward but not disastrous. I have 27 operational divisions in theatre moving to occupy front line positions and then advance against the enemy. It us unlikely that I have sufficient forces to hold eastern Persia since I will be attacked by Afghanistan as well as the British but the situation in western Persia could develop nicely. The main target is to move west taking out Iraq and then strike Turkey from the south. The destruction of all allied forces against the Egyptian frontier will not be possible since Italy is now a member of the allied alliance.

The biggest issue in this theatre is movement times to occupy the frontline mountain provinces. If I arrive first then further reinforcements will be successfully delivered and I can attack on into the lowlands. If the allies get there first they get good defensive positions and they disrupt my reinforcements. My forces in Baku are mostly infantry and mountain divisions so I will be able to take the mountains back easily enough but the timing is all important for delivery of the mobile troops currently in redeployment.
 

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Atlantic Situation

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South America

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Africa

Current overall intelligence is a bit weak on the smaller allied nations but if we combine knowledge about South American and African forces this should give a fair guide to potential enemy naval strength in the area. I’m guessing about 200 ships in the area, probably dominated by destroyers. If these AI fleets put to sea and head for my current area of operations between Africa and Brazil then some serious u-boat losses could result. It is tempting to look upon this as a small risk due to AI incompetence and particularly its inability to generate cooperative action between allies. However, a single large destroyer fleet from Brazil (and they have certainly got the ships) could cause significant damage.

Current u-boat activities are achieving quite limited results presumably due to the relatively low levels of convoy activity. The expansion of the war will create further convoy targets but again these are going to be quite limited. The US will have a convoy running from Liberia but it will be quite small. There will be a few other convoys in the Caribbean but most activity will be via trading and there is no way to effectively monitor impact on trading.

I will remain at sea in the South Atlantic for the time being but I expect to be forced into a general withdrawal due to high levels of enemy naval activity.

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North America

In the north Atlantic the US navy will dominate ship numbers since the Canadian fleet remains relatively small (actually quite large but small compared to the US). I have no real operations here except that I have convoys in the area of the UK (Ireland and the UK have supply and resource convoys). I am absolutely compelled to try and maintain these convoys and retain at least disputed control of the European waters. If significant naval activity occurs then major forces (air and naval) will have to be dedicated to the region.
 

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Bafflegab, DirtyCommiePuke The naval situation is interesting. In fact I have played ahead a couple of weeks and the whole thing is quite "interesting".

Competition time

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The usual format, simple aircraft recognition. If you are a repeat competition winner than please hold off for 24 hours and give someone else a go.

I shall be trying to maintain updates over the next couple of weeks at a steady rate but I will not be posting huge quantities since the forums are clearly badly overloaded by the release of EU3. Once things settle down there may be a period of catching up. I am also considering a briefer style to move things along faster. With the enormous detail currently being posted in takes days to play a few days (if you see what i mean).
 

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Kanitatlan said:
Bafflegab, DirtyCommiePuke The naval situation is interesting. In fact I have played ahead a couple of weeks and the whole thing is quite "interesting".

Competition time

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The usual format, simple aircraft recognition. If you are a repeat competition winner than please hold off for 24 hours and give someone else a go.

I shall be trying to maintain updates over the next couple of weeks at a steady rate but I will not be posting huge quantities since the forums are clearly badly overloaded by the release of EU3. Once things settle down there may be a period of catching up. I am also considering a briefer style to move things along faster. With the enormous detail currently being posted in takes days to play a few days (if you see what i mean).

Hah! Only now may I be a 'repeat' competition winner.

This is the Ju 287 V1.
Did you know there is evidence the Russkies actually tested it?