Question... why does Free france exist? wouldn't Itaty and/or germany already invaded it? wouldn't they still be in war against it?
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A small comment before i leave:
The White & Blue could be used for the Russian State.
The flag with red bars is for Turkestan.
The last flag is for Free France, with the Lorraine cross wich has realy been the Free French symbol.
About the whole storyline, please read the first post and you will know almost everything you need to know.
The White & Blue could be used for the Russian State.
The flag with red bars is for Turkestan.
The last flag is for Free France, with the Lorraine cross wich has realy been the Free French symbol.
About the whole storyline, please read the first post and you will know almost everything you need to know.
Ok, whoops. Thanks for the update. Hope you have fun (if its a funeral, my condolances.)
I'm about ready to start a 41 GC and to do certain things by event if needed, but need info on one critical thing: What should the Indian military doctrine tree be?
-Soviet
-Japanese
-British
-German
If they became independent in 40 or 41 then I'd imagine Azad Hind would have something to do with it. Subhas Chandra Bose was friendly to Germany at the time so my guess would be the German tree. I read that Hitler had planned to use him if he was more successful in the Caucusus than he was in the real war. I also read that he went to Stalin first and Stalin turned him down, but sent him to Germany as it was during the time of Soviet-German cooperation.
For simulation it makes a difference whether I liberate them as England or cede it to someone else first and have them liberate it so they can get a different doctrine tree.
My aim is to generate appropopriate sized armies and technical levels for the Asian countries. Also do you think India would enter any alliances between 41 and 48? (tech sharing). Another option is to give India a steal-tech event every year. If you've ever looked at the Indian tech teams they are quite good, but I'm not sure if they have the IC for 5 tech teams.
-Soviet
-Japanese
-British
-German
If they became independent in 40 or 41 then I'd imagine Azad Hind would have something to do with it. Subhas Chandra Bose was friendly to Germany at the time so my guess would be the German tree. I read that Hitler had planned to use him if he was more successful in the Caucusus than he was in the real war. I also read that he went to Stalin first and Stalin turned him down, but sent him to Germany as it was during the time of Soviet-German cooperation.
For simulation it makes a difference whether I liberate them as England or cede it to someone else first and have them liberate it so they can get a different doctrine tree.
My aim is to generate appropopriate sized armies and technical levels for the Asian countries. Also do you think India would enter any alliances between 41 and 48? (tech sharing). Another option is to give India a steal-tech event every year. If you've ever looked at the Indian tech teams they are quite good, but I'm not sure if they have the IC for 5 tech teams.
I found a sec to go into an internet cafe so i can give a short answer.
nomonhan, danielshannon already build a savegame, so ask him by PM and he will send it to you. We dont need a 2nd one..
Considering the streng of India is its manpower, give it the Soviet tech tree. For the techs teams they will have a lot of IC. Remember than India lead an allience (comitern). It can also have correct techs.
nomonhan, danielshannon already build a savegame, so ask him by PM and he will send it to you. We dont need a 2nd one..
Considering the streng of India is its manpower, give it the Soviet tech tree. For the techs teams they will have a lot of IC. Remember than India lead an allience (comitern). It can also have correct techs.
New pics, for skins, skin components or ideas etc.
Megalomaniac looks puzzled or contemplative.
Innocent looking Hitler Youth Girl 1; Brainwashed, idealistic young nationalist, cooks and dances, but you Will eat & like her food and let her dance till is sick, or its Gestapo time.
Hitler Youth Girl 2; Ahhh, she looks so sweet, until she calls the Gestapo, because you didn't 'contribute', and buy a flower from her.
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My edited Reich Eagle, looks better when scaled down, good as part of something, still some off-white & off-black pixels.
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Funny Animated GIF of Hitler
Megalomaniac looks puzzled or contemplative.
Innocent looking Hitler Youth Girl 1; Brainwashed, idealistic young nationalist, cooks and dances, but you Will eat & like her food and let her dance till is sick, or its Gestapo time.
Hitler Youth Girl 2; Ahhh, she looks so sweet, until she calls the Gestapo, because you didn't 'contribute', and buy a flower from her.
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=reichegelhf9.jpg
My edited Reich Eagle, looks better when scaled down, good as part of something, still some off-white & off-black pixels.
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/2504/hitlerknockki3.gif
Funny Animated GIF of Hitler
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I have a huge SOV Event in the works. I hope it can help this mod. I am also working on some domestic policy events.
Sounds good Screaming-Eagle, would you like some soviet WW2 posters digging up for it? Or for this mod (so they look different, if your 'Event Work in Progress' is for something else)?
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The Kingdom of China idea is not good I think. Those regimes had very little popular support and I don't think America would have let them stay. And I don't get the point of Primorsk?
Maybe you could have the game start with a civil war between Russia and the USSR?
The Chinese Commies had a fair amount of local support, and likely would have managed to get Manchuria anyway. Perhaps start the game with an uneasy ceasefire between the commies and the nationalists.
Maybe you could have the game start with a civil war between Russia and the USSR?
The Chinese Commies had a fair amount of local support, and likely would have managed to get Manchuria anyway. Perhaps start the game with an uneasy ceasefire between the commies and the nationalists.
Here's a map of what is contained within the novel 'Fatherland'
and a link to Wiki
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatherland_(novel)"
Most of what General_Grant and ourselves are trying to do is come up with some realistic 'what if' plots for the countries in grey, which weren't covered in the book.
and a link to Wiki
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatherland_(novel)"
Most of what General_Grant and ourselves are trying to do is come up with some realistic 'what if' plots for the countries in grey, which weren't covered in the book.
Well India being leader of the Comintern puts an interesting spin on things. Most likely they would support independence for Xinjiang in order to weaken the Islamic bloc and open up a supply corridor to Mongolia and the Soviet Union. The two Chinas would probably support each other's claims to the North and west.--Empire of China would claim Mongolia and Republic of China would want to hold onto or capture Xinjiang, with the Indian base of operations being Kashgar. India would probably be Leninist not Stalinist. What about Indochina? Ho Chi Minh might actually be involved with the pro-French administration since he historically hated the Nationalist Chinese more than the French. Is Indochina loyal toi Free France or Vichy (ruling) France?
There will need to be events (I have them) to eliminate from the UK files generals of India that are duplicates of the UK generals. One way to do a lot of these things is to start the game at 2200 hours of the night before, so that at 2400 hours a series of events to straighten out the scenario can be launched.
What I have in mind is to make the whole thing compatible with an ordinary installation, so you can just load a scenario file. Load screens would be optional. I like U12 and U13 for Turkestan and Empire of China. These would be of necessity heavily modded countries, so I don't think we should use the usual tags. I have a Vichy file with expanded leaders (drawn from Indochina), and Indochina doesn't need that many.
As for the order of battle, unfortunately danielshannon only posted map screenshots, so I'll have to start a real game to generate tech levels and an order of battle.
Here's some historical info on Turkestan and Empire of China:
U12;Turkestan;;;;;;;;;;x
U13;Empire of China;;;;;;;;;;x
U12_DESC;The late 18th century saw intense fighting between Imperial Russia and Qing China over control of central Asia. Russia won control of most of the area but China was able to establish a presence in the westernmost province of Xinjiang, which was also known as 'Chinese Turkestan'. In the aftermath of the Russian Revolution, the area joined the White forces and declared an independent Islamic Republic of Turkestan. They were crushed by the Bolsheviks, and Stalin, Lenin's favorite for handling the problem of dissident nationalities, broke up the area into 5 different Soviet Socialist Republics. Meanwhile on the Chinese side, a series of corrupt governors caused resentment among the native Islamic population. An independent Islamic Republic of East Turkestan was proclaimed in 1933, but foundered because of lack of international support, and a strong crackdown by Sheng Shicai with Soviet help. The Soviets were all too fearful that Islamic rebellion would spread into the Soviet Union so they cooperated fully with Sheng. Sheng broke his alliance with the Soviets in the wake of German victories in operation Barbarossa, and Nationalist China reasserted control. But control did not last long, as on the Russian side, Turkestan broke away from the Soviet Union and declared its independence. Competing factions vied for control on the Chinese side, with a left-wing faction supported by India favoring independence, and a right-wing Islamic fundamentalist faction favoring unification with the western part of Turkestan. A third faction of Hui Moslems was loyal to Nationalist China.;;;;;;;;;;x
U13_DESC;Emperor Pu Yi chafed at the Japanese overlordship is his Empire of Manchukuo and secretly longed for restoration of the Qing dynasty. He flattered the Japanese openly while harboring secret resentment. Pu Yi was especially troubled when his third wife, Tan Yuling, died while under the care of a Japanese doctor in 1943. Pu Yi felt that the Japanese were plotting against him, with the intent of allowing his brother Pujie, the heir to the throne, to succeed him. The Soviet Union shelved its plans for Operation August Storm and ended its support for Mao Zedong under the terms of the Bitter Peace with Germany. The USA was finally able to defeat Japan in 1946, but did not have a presence on the Asian mainland. The Manchukuo and Kwantung armies, together with some warlords dissatisfied with Chiang Kai-Shek's increasing inability to delegate authority, stepped into the power vaccuum. Many Kwantung Army officers preferred to serve the new Empire of China rather than return to a life in defeated and disgraced Japan. They were joined by former Imperial Japanese Army Korean divisions, and many former Communist cadres disillusioned by Mao Zedong and the Soviet Union. The new Empire of China pledged a return to Buddhist and Confucian values, but with a healthy respect for technology. It also sought to reunify China and reassert claims to Mongolia, as well as the rest of China.;;;;;;;;;;x
As for Free France, another way to get it is to mod Wallonia and reflag it, and just use normal France as the Vichy regime. Or do you prefer a user tag for Free France? You can take the Dietsland flag from my mod.
There will need to be events (I have them) to eliminate from the UK files generals of India that are duplicates of the UK generals. One way to do a lot of these things is to start the game at 2200 hours of the night before, so that at 2400 hours a series of events to straighten out the scenario can be launched.
What I have in mind is to make the whole thing compatible with an ordinary installation, so you can just load a scenario file. Load screens would be optional. I like U12 and U13 for Turkestan and Empire of China. These would be of necessity heavily modded countries, so I don't think we should use the usual tags. I have a Vichy file with expanded leaders (drawn from Indochina), and Indochina doesn't need that many.
As for the order of battle, unfortunately danielshannon only posted map screenshots, so I'll have to start a real game to generate tech levels and an order of battle.
Here's some historical info on Turkestan and Empire of China:
U12;Turkestan;;;;;;;;;;x
U13;Empire of China;;;;;;;;;;x
U12_DESC;The late 18th century saw intense fighting between Imperial Russia and Qing China over control of central Asia. Russia won control of most of the area but China was able to establish a presence in the westernmost province of Xinjiang, which was also known as 'Chinese Turkestan'. In the aftermath of the Russian Revolution, the area joined the White forces and declared an independent Islamic Republic of Turkestan. They were crushed by the Bolsheviks, and Stalin, Lenin's favorite for handling the problem of dissident nationalities, broke up the area into 5 different Soviet Socialist Republics. Meanwhile on the Chinese side, a series of corrupt governors caused resentment among the native Islamic population. An independent Islamic Republic of East Turkestan was proclaimed in 1933, but foundered because of lack of international support, and a strong crackdown by Sheng Shicai with Soviet help. The Soviets were all too fearful that Islamic rebellion would spread into the Soviet Union so they cooperated fully with Sheng. Sheng broke his alliance with the Soviets in the wake of German victories in operation Barbarossa, and Nationalist China reasserted control. But control did not last long, as on the Russian side, Turkestan broke away from the Soviet Union and declared its independence. Competing factions vied for control on the Chinese side, with a left-wing faction supported by India favoring independence, and a right-wing Islamic fundamentalist faction favoring unification with the western part of Turkestan. A third faction of Hui Moslems was loyal to Nationalist China.;;;;;;;;;;x
U13_DESC;Emperor Pu Yi chafed at the Japanese overlordship is his Empire of Manchukuo and secretly longed for restoration of the Qing dynasty. He flattered the Japanese openly while harboring secret resentment. Pu Yi was especially troubled when his third wife, Tan Yuling, died while under the care of a Japanese doctor in 1943. Pu Yi felt that the Japanese were plotting against him, with the intent of allowing his brother Pujie, the heir to the throne, to succeed him. The Soviet Union shelved its plans for Operation August Storm and ended its support for Mao Zedong under the terms of the Bitter Peace with Germany. The USA was finally able to defeat Japan in 1946, but did not have a presence on the Asian mainland. The Manchukuo and Kwantung armies, together with some warlords dissatisfied with Chiang Kai-Shek's increasing inability to delegate authority, stepped into the power vaccuum. Many Kwantung Army officers preferred to serve the new Empire of China rather than return to a life in defeated and disgraced Japan. They were joined by former Imperial Japanese Army Korean divisions, and many former Communist cadres disillusioned by Mao Zedong and the Soviet Union. The new Empire of China pledged a return to Buddhist and Confucian values, but with a healthy respect for technology. It also sought to reunify China and reassert claims to Mongolia, as well as the rest of China.;;;;;;;;;;x
As for Free France, another way to get it is to mod Wallonia and reflag it, and just use normal France as the Vichy regime. Or do you prefer a user tag for Free France? You can take the Dietsland flag from my mod.
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same question... how could Free France continue to exist in Africa?
I think China should be divided yes... I am all for it
I think China should be divided yes... I am all for it
The Vichy Tag is for the France in mainland Europe, wich control only Algeria and Djibouti as colonies. The Free France is the normal France one, They have claims on the metropolitan area but is fighting from the former colonial empire.
I Killed Kenny, note than even if this is an 'Axis won' scenario, their victory is not total. Having a Free France, wich would have (probably) survived with British/US help, help to blance the thnigs in Africa. Consider the Italians won in Egypt but did not go farther than Sudan, and the peace treaty with England gave German colonies back to Germany. Same thnig happened for Vichy France wich have sceded Togoland and Camerun in exchange of northern France. French West Africa finally joined Free France, wich was popular in the Colonies. Hope than its help you to understand
nomonhan, i must applaude your works. That very complete and with your help, Asia will be a very interesting theater. The Leaders/tech teams of Manchukuo, Menkuguo, Shaanxi and even some communist would be fusioned to build the 'Empire of China'. Same for Khasakstan, Uzbekistan and the various regionalistan than will me fusioned to create Turkestan, but i think you have understood it already. (Who will rule Turkestan???)
But if we have two savegames, one wich have almost everythhnig done, and another with totaly perfect Asia, what we will do? Can't fusion them.
I Killed Kenny, note than even if this is an 'Axis won' scenario, their victory is not total. Having a Free France, wich would have (probably) survived with British/US help, help to blance the thnigs in Africa. Consider the Italians won in Egypt but did not go farther than Sudan, and the peace treaty with England gave German colonies back to Germany. Same thnig happened for Vichy France wich have sceded Togoland and Camerun in exchange of northern France. French West Africa finally joined Free France, wich was popular in the Colonies. Hope than its help you to understand
nomonhan, i must applaude your works. That very complete and with your help, Asia will be a very interesting theater. The Leaders/tech teams of Manchukuo, Menkuguo, Shaanxi and even some communist would be fusioned to build the 'Empire of China'. Same for Khasakstan, Uzbekistan and the various regionalistan than will me fusioned to create Turkestan, but i think you have understood it already. (Who will rule Turkestan???)
But if we have two savegames, one wich have almost everythhnig done, and another with totaly perfect Asia, what we will do? Can't fusion them.
Dear General Grant,
As fan of the novel of the same name, alternate history stuffs (in particular over WWII) and amateur historian, I would be proud to help you in this mod, despite of my quite poor English (because of my French nationality)...If you want, I have some ideas about ministers files, or flags...I can do that within a few hours. Good luck!
Just a few questions:
-What is the situation of American countries? I would see Rafael Trujillo, dictator of Dominican Republic, as emperor of Caribeean Islands...Or a pro Axis-regime in Argentina, or communist one in Colombia...
-Do the Germans installed dictatorial republics (like Milan Nedic's in Serbia) or constitutional kingdoms with puppet kings (like Mussolini's Italy) in Europe? For example, is the Russian puppet state a new Tsarist empire or a collaboratist republic?
As fan of the novel of the same name, alternate history stuffs (in particular over WWII) and amateur historian, I would be proud to help you in this mod, despite of my quite poor English (because of my French nationality)...If you want, I have some ideas about ministers files, or flags...I can do that within a few hours. Good luck!
Just a few questions:
-What is the situation of American countries? I would see Rafael Trujillo, dictator of Dominican Republic, as emperor of Caribeean Islands...Or a pro Axis-regime in Argentina, or communist one in Colombia...
-Do the Germans installed dictatorial republics (like Milan Nedic's in Serbia) or constitutional kingdoms with puppet kings (like Mussolini's Italy) in Europe? For example, is the Russian puppet state a new Tsarist empire or a collaboratist republic?
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It 100% sure than South/Central America will be a major theater for coups and rivalities between Germany and the Allies. Argentina has alway been very near of Germany, and will probably become its best support in the region. In Europe, i seriously dont know wht would be the governements, but i dont think the monarchists would be a serious forces in Croatia, Serbia, etc...
Flags, suggestions and ministers are alway welcome, post them here and i'll see if it can be used. And dont worry, if you want to help there is absolutly no problem, le Français étant ma langue d'origine.
Flags, suggestions and ministers are alway welcome, post them here and i'll see if it can be used. And dont worry, if you want to help there is absolutly no problem, le Français étant ma langue d'origine.
Screaming Eagle....
Ok, going digging, I'll post a little later,I'll try to get a mix of posters etc that cover recruitment, party, population at work blah blah blah.
Its good that most of them shouldn't need editing, russian iconography isnt banned like natzi, but they're might be occasional natzi references, in which case I will edit sufficiently.
By the way, is you chosen name to do with the record breaking F15 prototype of the 'Super Eagle' engine & avionics upgrades?
Screaming-Eagle said:
Ok, going digging, I'll post a little later,I'll try to get a mix of posters etc that cover recruitment, party, population at work blah blah blah.
Its good that most of them shouldn't need editing, russian iconography isnt banned like natzi, but they're might be occasional natzi references, in which case I will edit sufficiently.
By the way, is you chosen name to do with the record breaking F15 prototype of the 'Super Eagle' engine & avionics upgrades?
Vichy ministers
Hello everybody, it's time for infamy...There is my suggestions for French state (official name for Vichy France):
VIC; French state
Head of State :
Phillipe Pétain ; PA ; Resigned Generalissimo; 1948
The old Marechal is still alive, more senile than another thing…He will be a puppet of the true rulers of French state until his death in 1951
HRH Henri VI de Bourbon; PA; Insignificant Layman ; 1951
The comte de Paris and claimant to the French throne would be the first concerned in a monarchist restauration. Like Juan Carlos, successor of Franco
Jean-François Darlan; FA; Barking Buffon; 1948
It depends if in this timeline, Darlan managed to survive his assassination in 1942. He would be a ruler in a German-puppetted France
Pierre Laval; PA; Autocratic Charmer; 1951
The longest-serving President of Council of Vichy France.
Eugène Deloncle; NS; Powerhungry Demagogue; 1948
Leader of antisemite movement La Cagoule, assassinated in 1944 by Gestapo because of his links with Abwehr. If Fatherland’s timeline is the same for him, he would be replaced by Marcel Bucard, leader of Franciste movement, who suffered from his war wounds and was executed by French Resistance in 1946
Head of Government:
Pierre Laval; PA; Silent Workhorse ; 1948
If, in this timeline, Laval managed to keep his seat of President of Council…
Charles Maurras; FA; Happy Amateur; 1948
The leader of monarchist Action Française, a crusader of monarchist Restauration. He will die in 1952 from natural causes
Marcel Déat; NS; Backroom Backstabber; 1948
A stern collaborationist and former Socialist party’s member
Eugène Schueller; PA; Corporate Suit; 1948
Founder of l’Oréal, who was a strong supporter of La Cagoule
Foreign minister:
Fernand de Brinon; PA; Biased intellectual; 1948
Representative of French State with the German High Command at Paris during Occupation
Philippe Henriot; FA; Ideological Crusader; 1948
The French Goebbels, who faced Pierre Dac and Maurice Schumann on radiowaves
Jacques Corrèze; PA; Great Compromiser; 1948
Representative of l’Oréal in USA, member of La Cagoule and adoptive son of Deloncle
Minister of Armement:
Jacques Doriot; NS; Infantry proponent; 1948
Another former socialist; fought in USSR under the SS uniform…
Joseph Darnand; NS; Tank Proponent; 1948
Founder of Militia and SS-Sturmbannführer
Jacques Doriot; NS; Administrative Genius; 1948
Former communist who won an Iron Cross on Russian front…
Minister of Security:
Maurice Papon; FA; Prince of Terror; 1948
One of our national prouds in France: the one who became the prefect of police of Paris later, and was released a few years before his death, recently…
André Tulard; NS; Efficient Sociopath; 1948
Well-known, as police inspector in Paris, for his recensment of French Jews
René Bousquet; NS; Prince of Terror ; 1948
Secretary general of Police, who elaborated the infamous Rafle du Vel d’Hiv’
Jacques de Bernonville; NS; Crime Fighter ; 1948
Infamously known for being the right-hand man of Klaus Barbie…
Head of military intelligence:
Paul Touvier; NS; Technical Specialist; 1948
Head of the intelligence department in the Chambéry Milice under the direction of Klaus Barbie
Chief of staff:
Jacques Doriot; NS; School of Mass Combat; 1948
Joseph Darnand; NS; School of Manoeuvre; 1948
Edgar Puaud; NS; School of Fire Support; 1948
First commander of French SS-Division Charlemagne
Henri Fenet; NS; School of Defense; 1948
Last commander of SS-Division Charlemagne; wounded during the defence of Adolf Hitler’s bunker in Berlin, in 1945…
Capital:Paris (after the evacuation by German armies of Northern France, government in Vichy is not a priority anymore)
Current ideology: Paternal Autocrat (like in Doomsday)
Events:
1951: Death of Pétain, and the successions disorders that follows
Monarchist restauration?
Continuation of Petainism (it means events which involves rural classes and provinces in general)
War in Algeria: The independance war of OTL will certainly occur...
Fights with Free France
Claims over former French territories belonging to Dietsland, Italy and Germany
Attempts to create a greater France (Catalonia, Wallonia, Geneva?)
Flag (historical presidential standard):
Propaganda posters:
Country description (from Doomsday's):
The History of Modern France is shaped around three Key events. The Paris Commune (1871) the meat grinder of Verdun (1916) and the surrender to Germany (1940). The France that entered the war in 1939 was not the France of 1914. There was no Union Sacrée rather a country bitterly divided against itself. A country that since Blum's popular Front government of 1934 had been polarised between right and left. The rallying cry of the French right was 'rather Hitler than Blum'. As the German armies marched through France a new fear began to arise in the French right fear of another Commune. The aging Marshal Pétain, hero of Verdun, who was old enough to remember the Commune, was determined to ensure that it never happened again. Pétain assumed political control determined to save France again. The new French regime made a speedy peace with Germany and based itself around the spa town of Vichy after which it would be named. Roughly half the territory of France was either annexed or occupied by the victors there were heavy reparations to be paid and the vultures were circling around France's colonial empire. A lot of members of French intelligentsia, including former communists, decided to privilege the way of collaboration with Germany, opposed to the ralliement of Free France's government in exile in London. A lot of organisms to help German policies, in particular on the Russian front, were created: Militia, Legion of the French voluntaries against Bolchevism, SS-Division Charlemagne...Despite of this, Hitler stayed quite mistrustful towards France, even a collaborationist one. French State recovered Paris as capital during the German withdrawal in 1946: his colonial empire was divided between Spain, Italy, Germany and Free France, who managed to continue his fight in Africa, leaving to French State the only colony of Algeria. In 1948, the senile Marshal Pétain is still supported by Germans and their supporters in France. What is the destiny of this illegitimate regime in Nazi Europe? Who will finally win the war between the two Frances?
Hello everybody, it's time for infamy...There is my suggestions for French state (official name for Vichy France):
VIC; French state
Head of State :
Phillipe Pétain ; PA ; Resigned Generalissimo; 1948
The old Marechal is still alive, more senile than another thing…He will be a puppet of the true rulers of French state until his death in 1951
HRH Henri VI de Bourbon; PA; Insignificant Layman ; 1951
The comte de Paris and claimant to the French throne would be the first concerned in a monarchist restauration. Like Juan Carlos, successor of Franco
Jean-François Darlan; FA; Barking Buffon; 1948
It depends if in this timeline, Darlan managed to survive his assassination in 1942. He would be a ruler in a German-puppetted France
Pierre Laval; PA; Autocratic Charmer; 1951
The longest-serving President of Council of Vichy France.
Eugène Deloncle; NS; Powerhungry Demagogue; 1948
Leader of antisemite movement La Cagoule, assassinated in 1944 by Gestapo because of his links with Abwehr. If Fatherland’s timeline is the same for him, he would be replaced by Marcel Bucard, leader of Franciste movement, who suffered from his war wounds and was executed by French Resistance in 1946
Head of Government:
Pierre Laval; PA; Silent Workhorse ; 1948
If, in this timeline, Laval managed to keep his seat of President of Council…
Charles Maurras; FA; Happy Amateur; 1948
The leader of monarchist Action Française, a crusader of monarchist Restauration. He will die in 1952 from natural causes
Marcel Déat; NS; Backroom Backstabber; 1948
A stern collaborationist and former Socialist party’s member
Eugène Schueller; PA; Corporate Suit; 1948
Founder of l’Oréal, who was a strong supporter of La Cagoule
Foreign minister:
Fernand de Brinon; PA; Biased intellectual; 1948
Representative of French State with the German High Command at Paris during Occupation
Philippe Henriot; FA; Ideological Crusader; 1948
The French Goebbels, who faced Pierre Dac and Maurice Schumann on radiowaves
Jacques Corrèze; PA; Great Compromiser; 1948
Representative of l’Oréal in USA, member of La Cagoule and adoptive son of Deloncle
Minister of Armement:
Jacques Doriot; NS; Infantry proponent; 1948
Another former socialist; fought in USSR under the SS uniform…
Joseph Darnand; NS; Tank Proponent; 1948
Founder of Militia and SS-Sturmbannführer
Jacques Doriot; NS; Administrative Genius; 1948
Former communist who won an Iron Cross on Russian front…
Minister of Security:
Maurice Papon; FA; Prince of Terror; 1948
One of our national prouds in France: the one who became the prefect of police of Paris later, and was released a few years before his death, recently…
André Tulard; NS; Efficient Sociopath; 1948
Well-known, as police inspector in Paris, for his recensment of French Jews
René Bousquet; NS; Prince of Terror ; 1948
Secretary general of Police, who elaborated the infamous Rafle du Vel d’Hiv’
Jacques de Bernonville; NS; Crime Fighter ; 1948
Infamously known for being the right-hand man of Klaus Barbie…
Head of military intelligence:
Paul Touvier; NS; Technical Specialist; 1948
Head of the intelligence department in the Chambéry Milice under the direction of Klaus Barbie
Chief of staff:
Jacques Doriot; NS; School of Mass Combat; 1948
Joseph Darnand; NS; School of Manoeuvre; 1948
Edgar Puaud; NS; School of Fire Support; 1948
First commander of French SS-Division Charlemagne
Henri Fenet; NS; School of Defense; 1948
Last commander of SS-Division Charlemagne; wounded during the defence of Adolf Hitler’s bunker in Berlin, in 1945…
Capital:Paris (after the evacuation by German armies of Northern France, government in Vichy is not a priority anymore)
Current ideology: Paternal Autocrat (like in Doomsday)
Events:
1951: Death of Pétain, and the successions disorders that follows
Monarchist restauration?
Continuation of Petainism (it means events which involves rural classes and provinces in general)
War in Algeria: The independance war of OTL will certainly occur...
Fights with Free France
Claims over former French territories belonging to Dietsland, Italy and Germany
Attempts to create a greater France (Catalonia, Wallonia, Geneva?)
Flag (historical presidential standard):
Propaganda posters:
Country description (from Doomsday's):
The History of Modern France is shaped around three Key events. The Paris Commune (1871) the meat grinder of Verdun (1916) and the surrender to Germany (1940). The France that entered the war in 1939 was not the France of 1914. There was no Union Sacrée rather a country bitterly divided against itself. A country that since Blum's popular Front government of 1934 had been polarised between right and left. The rallying cry of the French right was 'rather Hitler than Blum'. As the German armies marched through France a new fear began to arise in the French right fear of another Commune. The aging Marshal Pétain, hero of Verdun, who was old enough to remember the Commune, was determined to ensure that it never happened again. Pétain assumed political control determined to save France again. The new French regime made a speedy peace with Germany and based itself around the spa town of Vichy after which it would be named. Roughly half the territory of France was either annexed or occupied by the victors there were heavy reparations to be paid and the vultures were circling around France's colonial empire. A lot of members of French intelligentsia, including former communists, decided to privilege the way of collaboration with Germany, opposed to the ralliement of Free France's government in exile in London. A lot of organisms to help German policies, in particular on the Russian front, were created: Militia, Legion of the French voluntaries against Bolchevism, SS-Division Charlemagne...Despite of this, Hitler stayed quite mistrustful towards France, even a collaborationist one. French State recovered Paris as capital during the German withdrawal in 1946: his colonial empire was divided between Spain, Italy, Germany and Free France, who managed to continue his fight in Africa, leaving to French State the only colony of Algeria. In 1948, the senile Marshal Pétain is still supported by Germans and their supporters in France. What is the destiny of this illegitimate regime in Nazi Europe? Who will finally win the war between the two Frances?
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That would indeed be cool. Better yet, I or you can make Event Pics out of em
.Agreed 100%.
Code:
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###### British 1948 Security Act
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event = {
id = 500000
random = no
country = ENG
trigger = {
ideology = fascist
}
name = "British 1948 Security Act"
desc = "In an effort to become more Fascist, Britain passed the 1948 Security Bill, The Law called for complete Colonial Lockdown, and a total censorship act was tagged along as well."
style = 0
picture = "politician"
date = { day = 12 month = february year = 1948 }
offset = 0
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1963 }
action_a = {
name = "Pass the Act"
ai_chance = 98
command = { type = dissent value = 20 }
command = { type = relation which = USA value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = GER value = 30 }
command = { type = relation which = VIC value = 10 }
command = { type = trigger which = 500001 }
command = { type = manpowerpool value = 10 }
}
action_b = {
name = "We are no puppet"
ai_chance = 2
command = { type = relation which = GER value = -10 }
command = { type = relation which = USA value = 10 }
command = { type = relation which = VIC value = -10 }
command = { type = dissent value = 5 }
}
}
Code:
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###### The Vichy-London Security Acts
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event = {
id = 500001
random = no
country = VIC
trigger = {
event = 500000
ideology = fascist
}
name = "The Vichy-London Security Acts"
desc = "In an effort to improve relations, and cooperate like the previous governments, Vichy France and England decided to sign a cooperation pact."
style = 0
picture = "vichy_regime"
date = { day = 13 month = april year = 1948 }
offset = 0
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1964 }
action_a = {
name = "This will Strengthen us Greatly"
ai_chance = 95
command = { type = non_aggression which = VIC where = ENG }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = 100 }
command = { type = supplies value = 5000 }
command = { type = oilpool value = 5000 }
command = { type = metalpool value = 20000 }
command = { type = energypool value = 5000 }
command = { type = manpowerpool value = 15 }
command = { type = rarematerialspool value = 10000 }
command = { type = trigger which = 500002 }
}
action_b = {
name = "Screw the English"
ai_chance = 5
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -20 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 500002 }
}
}Think we can use these?