Fastest path to westernize as chinese tech group in AoW?

[unmerged(2833)]

You actually can westernize at war. Its the overextension that prevents westernization.

 

[Florryworry]

Can't you just fight your way to the arabian peninsula, vassalize hedjaz and then core sinai and negev, conquer cyprus and westernize?
Its probably crazy hard to do without teching up millitary but I think It's probably the fastest way

 

[MadDjinn]

Enh. As Malaya I conquered the Cape from Portugal and used their core there to westernize. Since it's only 1-2% required, you sit on it for a long time and they'll give up eventually.

Ofc, the longer you wait, the larger their allies get. The war for the Cape, an actual core of theirs, took less time and effort than a much later war where I siezed a colony. In the 2nd war I had to wait until they got the 'nothing in the war is progressing' modifier before they'd peace out. The first war just took until I got past 10 ws.

It's nice to purge cultures on far off lands again.

 

[TheDanish]

Fight/colonize your way to a border with Muscovy and wait. The AI seems to westernize a lot more frequently now, Muscovy included.

 

[GoffBall]

Set up colonies in the new world is the best bet to westernised, I tried Africa and I only got trade companies over there.

 

[uishax]

The European nation can't do anything since they can't reach you so they can't get the 10% warscore required to ask for anything decent. They'll sign a peace deal for a couple ducats and maybe some war reparations after a couple months.

The method most definitely works, tried in a game only a few hours ago. Was thinking about using it for my Kochin playthrough but I'm thinking protectorate cheese will be better if it still works.


It's not ideal by any stretch of the imagination to try and rush westernisation that early. It is possible though if you really want to force it for some reason (maybe rushing the Kilwa achievement if you're that impatience?). The question was fastest path to westernisation after all.

For 1.8 Ming, everything is worth it to rush westernisation, you quadruple your manpower and income after it, AND you lose the annoying modifiers. The only intervensions they need to do in Asia is to prevent Dai Viet from blobbing and ensure the hordes don't unify and get too big.

 

[GoffBall]

Yup, getting 270 per month is possible once westernisation is complete. I pretty much have no idea what to do with the 118k money at 1822.

 

[CPMuskovy]

Another thing to ask: Do you guys do the colonist trick where you get 10 settlers each time you send a colonist, recall, then send him again?

 

[Castrolol]

Another thing to ask: Do you guys do the colonist trick where you get 10 settlers each time you send a colonist, recall, then send him again?

That really only works if the colony is ridiculously close to your capital (so it's for home continent colonising only). It's good for a lot of african nations and I used it to great effect in my M'zab game where I colonised the caravan trade routes and blobbed into africa extremely early allowing me to fend off the bigger north africans.

 

[zephyr7913]

So we can all agree that the fastest & easiest path is probably to land a few unit of troops in the new world and seize a nearly finished colony from Portugal?

 

[CPMuskovy]

That really only works if the colony is ridiculously close to your capital (so it's for home continent colonising only). It's good for a lot of african nations and I used it to great effect in my M'zab game where I colonised the caravan trade routes and blobbed into africa extremely early allowing me to fend off the bigger north africans.

Thought so. Speaking of which, what is the optimal cut-off point for this trick? I'm currently using it when send time is like 100 days.

Also, I still can't for the life of me figure out how to get to the new world and westernize before 1500 like you said. This is as Korea btw. All the other times I've westernized has been late 1500s, early 1600s. A faster time would be nice, but I still haven't figured it out yet.