Fascist USA and I can't create a faction

[Awsum4sum]

Hi all,

I'm playing as Free American Empire, but I don't want to join the axis, so I know that when you leave democracy behind you lose the national spirit "Land of the Free", I was just wandering if there is another way to create a faction as almost all countries can?

PS I really really f**kin love this game

 

[Chagall]

You can start your own faction as fascist or communist USA.

 

[Agiknight]

You have to invite someone to join your faction. As Fascist USA I was able to invite Venezuela to form a faction.

 

[Awsum4sum]

When I try to create one though, the button is greyed out and it says "You cannot create factions without having the national spirit to do so"

 

[Agiknight]

When I try to create one though, the button is greyed out and it says "You cannot create factions without having the national spirit to do so"

I believe the US has to have a particular focus to create a faction. Check in the tree, it might be Pax Americana or one of the Focuses in the War Bonds tree.

 

[Chagall]

Isn't there a national focus that allows you to start your own faction?

 

[Awsum4sum]

I have all the pax americana focuses except the last two which are just war goals and civil war starters. And none of the othr focuses allow this as far as I can see.

This is a screenshot to show what I mean

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198017641002/screenshot/267216579601014624

 

[Awsum4sum]

Anyone have any ideas?

 

[Agiknight]

I'm not sure what the issue is, but I can confirm that it is definitely possible.

 

[Sleight of Hand]

You can't. If you go fascist or communist you can only join an existing faction. As you say, you need to stay as a Democracy in order to create your own faction -- once you lose the 'Home of the Free' National Spirit you will no longer be able to create your own factions.

To be clear, if you search the USA focus file for 'create_faction' or 'can_create_factions' you won't get any results.

 

[Awsum4sum]

Ok Thanks for the help guys, maybe if I play as free America again it will work, if not maybe PDX will make it available sometime.

 

[Agiknight]

You can't. If you go fascist or communist you can only join an existing faction. As you say, you need to stay as a Democracy in order to create your own faction -- once you lose the 'Home of the Free' National Spirit you will no longer be able to create your own factions.

To be clear, if you search the USA focus file for 'create_faction' or 'can_create_factions' you won't get any results.

Look at the screenshot above your post. Fascist US and created a faction with Venezuela.

 

[Raydon87]

I am having the same issue as OP. I get that when you become fascist you lose the "Land of the free" national spirit, thus losing the ability to create factions, but find it odd that minor nations have a national focus that will allow them to do so, and not a major power such as the US just because they switched political ideaologies.

So is this a bug? Also, for those of you that were still able to create factions as the free american empire, is it because you retained the land of the free spirit, or some other means?

At the very least, is there a console command that will fix this?

 

[Cymsdale]

In what order did you do the Pax national focus and switch to Fascism?

(Playing alternate USA can screw things up if you do things in the "wrong" order.)

 

[Raydon87]

In what order did you do the Pax national focus and switch to Fascism?

(Playing alternate USA can screw things up if you do things in the "wrong" order.)

The first thing I did was appointed the minister that increases fascist support, which led to a civil war before I had completely any of the pax focuses. I was afraid it would continue to give those countries + to democratic support even after I had switched to fascist. What is the correct order to do things in your experience?

 

[xcrissxcrossx]

I started a Faction with Fascist USA with Japan. USA should start with the ability to create factions I believe. It shouldn't take any particular national focus.

 

[Raydon87]

I started a Faction with Fascist USA with Japan. USA should start with the ability to create factions I believe. It shouldn't take any particular national focus.

So you did not lost the national spirit "land of the free" when you became fascist?

 

[Roytje]

I'm currently playing as Fascist US. I did 'Reaffirm Monroe Doctrine' first, then I became Fascist and continued with the focusses below it (it makes other American countries fascists). I did NOT loose "land of the free". I CAN create factions. None of the national focusses seem to remove "land of the free".

Not sure what is going on with OP. Maybe it depends on how you become fascist? I did not have a civil war, but a referendum. When I took that guy that slowly makes the US Fascists I got an event. I picked the bottom choise (something with younger generation) and waited until I had >50% for fascism, than an event fired which gave the option for a referendum.

 

[Cymsdale]

I'm currently playing as Fascist US. I did 'Reaffirm Monroe Doctrine' first, then I became Fascist and continued with the focusses below it (it makes other American countries fascists). I did NOT loose "land of the free". I CAN create factions. None of the national focusses seem to remove "land of the free".

Not sure what is going on with OP. Maybe it depends on how you become fascist? I did not have a civil war, but a referendum. When I took that guy that slowly makes the US Fascists I got an event. I picked the bottom choise (something with younger generation) and waited until I had >50% for fascism, than an event fired which gave the option for a referendum.

Civil war might cause the problem, because it technically spawns a new nation that takes over, right?

 

[Raydon87]

That could be the issue then, I only had about 25% support and chose to initiate a civil war (the other option rather than waiting for the younger generation). Once the free american empire broke off, I lost "land of the free". Mystery solved it seems