I belive they are didn't know that was a reference to a Turtle Dove writing.
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Aye, "barrels" and "barrel factories" are one of the REALLY confusing things in the game. That's one reference that I wouldn't be sad to see change... It's very confusing for quite some time until you realize that "barrels" is a joke on the use of the code-word "tanks" for the armoured vehicles.
There are three events. One which tells you that a mysterious whale appeared and sunk a ship, another repeating event that tells you it sunk another, and a final one where Arronax washes on shore and tells you about Nemo.
Why else would be call them Barrels?
They should be back to being called tanks in V2/AHD though.
that was the codename the Brits used when shipping them to france, IIRC
No, although that's the joke Turtledove was making by calling them Barrels instead. They were reffered to as "water carriers"/"water tanks" and later just "tanks".
I keep hearing contradictory stuff on this - can anoyne link to anything (with no verboten symbols) that conclusively says whether this is just a Turledove thing or whether it was real? A few people have said it's just a joke on his part but I'm almost sure at some stage I saw something that said it was the codename used.
Well there's:
I also have Guderian's "Achtung Panzer!" here, which mentions the choosing of the "Tank" codename in his WWI retrospective. Other early working names were "Machine gun destroyer" and "Landship", but since Tank was the widely used one once they were revealed it's what stuck.
The only place I have seen "Barrel" is in the Turtledove books, and I know that's where Johan got it from.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_tanks#Early_concepts
I also have Guderian's "Achtung Panzer!" here, which mentions the choosing of the "Tank" codename in his WWI retrospective. Other early working names were "Machine gun destroyer" and "Landship", but since Tank was the widely used one once they were revealed it's what stuck.
The only place I have seen "Barrel" is in the Turtledove books, and I know that's where Johan got it from.
Would have loved for that first name to stick!
Look out! here come a 'King Tiger Machine gun Destroyer!' That is General Patton, America's best Machine Gun Destroyer Commander! ACHTUNG! Maschinengewehr Zerstörer
Wouldn't it be more awesome if they were Landships and a part of navy, with bright flags, rum and stories of landsharks.
Yeah it seems you're right. It's weird, I honestly could have sworn I once saw something about it being a real codename, but that must have been one of my ether-induced hallucinations.
Castle Falkenstein, the steampunk RPG, actually calls them landships, and they're awesome.
The Royal navy, and especially Winston Churchill as First lord, was one of the driving factors in early tank development, so it wouldn't be that far-fetched
The Royal navy, and especially Winston Churchill as First lord, was one of the driving factors in early tank development, so it wouldn't be that far-fetched
I think they wanted to call them landships at first (and why not being steel hulled, fuel powered vehicles like steamships) but I think the idea of disguising them till they could use them in a massive (war winning) attack led to them being called "tanks". A good book to read on the development of Tanks is the "The Boiler-Plate War" by John Foley (1964).