Fanatical Purifiers

[KaluProBro]

Im realy intrestend in guys in title. I think its stupid dat you cant do anything whit them i think there should be a way to join them in there quest to purge galaxy of all life. I hope im not the only one and dat Paradox will do something about it

 

[SovereignGrave]

But they hate and despise all alien life, which naturally includes your race. Why would two empires who want to the complete and total extermination of each other join together?

 

[BlackUmbrellas]

Im realy intrestend in guys in title. I think its stupid dat you cant do anything whit them i think there should be a way to join them in there quest to purge galaxy of all life. I hope im not the only one and dat Paradox will do something about it

They're... fanatical purifiers. Fanatics who want to kill you so the galaxy will be pure, because you are Other and Disgusting.

You can't reason with them. You can't join them. That's the point?

 

[LastLeviathan]

Nothing is stopping you from pursuing their goal of purging the rest of the galaxy. You're just also on the list. The only solution is to vassalize them and do it together.

 

[Drakonn]

Actually you can sort of. Create two new existing races and make them the same species (create a new one, not just say Mammalian. Then if and when your come across your Fanatic Purifier they won't see you as the enemy. You can get everything but Federation with them I believe.

Came across this lovely feature when I had that happen with two of my customs. Though they still regarded me as slightly corrupted and less pure ha.

 

[Slarkon]

another way to do it in any game is just declare war against a distant fanatical purifier and they will set liberation war goals on your worlds. concede one or two, and they will form a new empire of your specials that are fan purifers. They will work with you

 

[Dalinski]

They need their own creepy music when you meat them.

See what I did there with misspelling meet ...?

 

[GloatingSwine]

You don't join Fanatical Purifiers.

You purify them.

 

[Wizzington]

They like you quite a bit if you're the same species.

 

[Mitchz95]

They like you quite a bit if you're the same species.

Is it actually possible to start as the same species as another AI empire? I've tried it before but even if the traits/names/adjectives/etc are the same, they count as two species. For example, UNE humans and COM humans count as two different species with two different homeworlds.

 

[BlackUmbrellas]

Is it actually possible to start as the same species as another AI empire? I've tried it before but even if the traits/names/adjectives/etc are the same, they count as two species. For example, UNE humans and COM humans count as two different species with two different homeworlds.

They have different homeworlds, yes. But the species itself gets counted as the same- just look at the diplomacy modifiers.

 

[Mackus]

They like you quite a bit if you're the same species.

Unless you border them. They get insane amount of border tension.

 

[Mitchz95]

They have different homeworlds, yes. But the species itself gets counted as the same- just look at the diplomacy modifiers.

In the Species tab they're listed twice, though.

 

[BlackUmbrellas]

In the Species tab they're listed twice, though.

Again, doesn't matter. Check the diplomacy opinion modifiers.

 

[Mr. Habba]

In the Species tab they're listed twice, though.

Pretty sure that this is either a bug or the result of gen-modding. AFAIK humans are a special case in that COM and UNE are hardcoded to start with exactly the same species. So even if you'd start as COM and give your race different traits than the standard humans have, the humans of UNE (which is forced to spawn when you play COM) would have the same traits and count as the same species.

In regards to playing the same species as a Fanatical Purifier, the only way I can see this working if you end up CREATING the FP in the first place -> be a fanatic xenophobe and militarist/collectivist empire and liberate a planet with your species on it.

 

[BlackUmbrellas]

Pretty sure that this is either a bug or the result of gen-modding. AFAIK humans are a special case in that COM and UNE are hardcoded to start with exactly the same species. So even if you'd start as COM and give your race different traits than the standard humans have, the humans of UNE (which is forced to spawn when you play COM) would have the same traits and count as the same species.

In regards to playing the same species as a Fanatical Purifier, the only way I can see this working if you end up CREATING the FP in the first place -> be a fanatic xenophobe and militarist/collectivist empire and liberate a planet with your species on it.

You can do it by making a custom civilization and setting it to "Always Spawn" and then making a second one with identical species setup.

(There's also a rare Fallen Empire that spawns as humans)

 

[Wizzington]

Is it actually possible to start as the same species as another AI empire? I've tried it before but even if the traits/names/adjectives/etc are the same, they count as two species. For example, UNE humans and COM humans count as two different species with two different homeworlds.

As far as things like opinion and policies are concerned, any two species with the same name and portrait are the same, even if listed separately.

 

[Slarkon]

Is it actually possible to start as the same species as another AI empire? I've tried it before but even if the traits/names/adjectives/etc are the same, they count as two species. For example, UNE humans and COM humans count as two different species with two different homeworlds.

The only way to do it is grant indepedence to your first colony - or declare war and get your 2nd colony liberated by your enemy. Then you can play with your own species

 

[BlackUmbrellas]

The only way to do it is grant indepedence to your first colony - or declare war and get your 2nd colony liberated by your enemy. Then you can play with your own species

Again, incorrect. By forcing a custom empire to spawn, you can ensure a hostile copy of your species is out there somewhere. If you really wanted, you could play a game with nothing but humans populating the galaxy (save for pre-FTL species, I suppose). You'd just need to create and force-spawn enough custom civilizations with the human species set up.

 

[KaluProBro]

So wait if your whole empire gets liberated you will play as liberated empire?!