Epirus, Pyrrhus is a cousin of Alexander via his mums side, so technically not an Argead, but still a relative.
Family Tree of Alexander the Great and other rulers in IR
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I was misremembering: They mention the tribal kingdom of Paeonia as being founded by a cadet branch of the Argead dynasty, but they might not be there anymore!
Jesus. If there is one thing that the diadochi was good at, it was the massacring of a family which they are supposedly looking after it’s possessions
Is there any way of marrying into Argead blood without using the traitor Cassander? Anyone? I just can’t bear playing the character which argably created the most damage to the Argeads
I can't personally think of anyone who hasn't been killed at this point in the game sadly. Perhaps someone who knows a lot more than me does though.
Jesus. If there is one thing that the diadochi was good at, it was the massacring of a family which they are supposedly looking after it’s possessions
Is there any way of marrying into Argead blood without using the traitor Cassander? Anyone? I just can’t bear playing the character which argably created the most damage to the Argeads
Honestly, Alexander and Phillip II killed more Argeads than all the Diadochoi put together. Philip II executed at least one half-brother during his early years, possibly two more in the Chalkidike (I don't have my Diodorus with me at the moment, so I can't say if he explicitly killed them or if they "mysteriously" disappeared from the record). Alexander likewise did away with Amyntas IV and his own half-brother and sister, the children of Eurydike and Philip. That's at least four, possibly six, shared between two individuals, not counting any I've forgotten (obviously). Alexander and Philip aren't exactly blameless when it comes to the lack of potential Argead heirs after Alexander's death...
Throw in the fact that Alexander's Casus Belli on the Persian Empire was "Lol, they burned a temple once," and "I can, so why not?" I have literally no sympathy for the Argead family as a whole. I feel bad for the various royal women executed in the course of the Wars of the Diadochoi (seriously, Cleopatra and Cyane did nothing wrong, they were just born with the wrong bloodline), but that's on a case-by-case basis.
It was just the way of Macedonian politics back then anyway. Although Alexander's "cb" on the Persians was probably based in a lot more than "they burned a temple once". The Persians had tried to invade Greece of multiple occasions previously, with Macedonia being a victim of that.
It is not like one needed a valid excuse to go to war when the entire aristocracy and nation at large supports it. Alexander and his father amassed truly gigantic armies, and contended with the might of Persia, proving victorious in the end.
The moral of the story is not to feel necessarily bad for the Argeads, but you can feel sympathy, certainly. They are the epitome of a cautionary tale, and Alexander proved to be mightier then the classical greats that came before him. Heracles may have killed a Hydra, but who else but Alexander destroyed the Kingdom of Kingdoms? It is tragic what happened to him, and so young. The line of his bloodline is especially telling. Imagine, if say Alexander had lived to a healthy life, if not an overly generous one, of another thirty years? These were the greatest plans for his reign, as dictated by Diodorus of Sicily.
-It was intended to build 1,000 warships larger than triremes in Phoenicia, Syria, Cilicia and Cyprus for the expedition against the Carthaginians and the other inhabitants of the coastal area of Africa, Iberia and the neighboring coasts as far as Sicily; to build a coastal road in Africa as far as the Pillars of Heracles, and, as required by such a large expedition, to build harbors and shipyards at suitable places.
- to build six expensive temples at a cost of 315 ton silver each (the temples just mentioned were to be built at Delos, Delphi and Dodona, and in Macedonia there was to be a temple of Zeus at Dion, one of Artemis Tauropolos at Amphipolis, and at Cyrnus one of Athena);
-in addition, to settle cities and transplant populations from Asia to Europe and vice versa from Europe to Asia, to bring the largest continents through intermarriage and ties of kinship to a common harmony and feeling of friendship.
-Likewise there was to be built at Troy a temple of Athena which could never be excelled in size by any other.
-A tomb for his father Philip was to be constructed which would be as large as the greatest pyramids in Egypt.
It's clear that Alexander intended to conquer the known world. With no infighting, not even the Mauryan Empire could disturb him, and even if the soldiers that were stationed along the Indus were thrown from rebellion, an united Empire under Alexander would no doubt have exponential impact and status on our world the further he had lived. Just think of what the cultural heritage that the Hellenes provided, lasting more then two thousand years as a major political power until the fall of Constaninople. Even then, the vitality of the Catholic Church, which had necessary traditions and foundation within Rome, itself taking large part from the Greeks. Can anyone deny that Alexander is not a sympathetic character? He is last greek hero of antiquity, a beacon of civilization and western thought. He was mentored by Aristotle himself! Anyone who doubts his legacy for some perfumed persians.. Blasphemy.
Was Ptolemy a bastard brother of Alexander? If so, the rulers of Eqypt most be the true heirs of Alexander?
After Alexanders death a lot of the Diadochi tried to make claims to be related to Alexander for prestige and legitimacy, Ptolemy was sadly unlikely to be a be his brother, but they were childhood friends.
It was rumoured that Alexander himself had a bastard son as well as his legitimate one Alexander IV. Sadly even if these rumours are true, the claimed bastard son was killed in about 309BC.
I mean, he could be his half brother, but it is unlikely.
It was rumoured that Alexander himself had a bastard son as well as his legitimate one Alexander IV. Sadly even if these rumours are true, the claimed bastard son was killed in about 309BC.
I mean, he could be his half brother, but it is unlikely.
As Paghalay said, it's rather unlikely.
The story goes that Ptolemy's father, Lagid, received one of Philips concubines as wife after she had become pregnant with Ptolemy.
Later they tried to claim his mother was actually an Argead as well.
Nothing stopping a good role play run as Ptolemy being Alexanders half brother though, let thy imagination run wild.
It dependet on the avaiable candidats. Despite the common opinion it was not a alway necessary. Both Ptolemeans and Seleucids rarly married their offspring in to other dynasties. There are exceptions in the phase of the diadochy wars and at least two were married off to pontic and cappadocian kings but usually both dynasties agreed that this was usually a bad decisions because it created to many claimands to the throne. If possible it was pratice to marry between the Ptolemaic and Seleucids dynasty because despite their wars there were no other dynasties who equaled those both. If that was not possible and only than they married within the family among cousins and sisters.
It should be aknowledged that it was not an purely egyptian phaenomen, although already the native pharohs practiced it at a time. Interesting is for example the case of Laodike, daughter of Antiochos III. First she married her brother and firstborn son of Antiochos III. who was also called Antiochos. This son however died and after that she married her second brother, who became Seleukos IV. After this brother also died she married her third brother who was named probably Mithridates before but became known as Antiochos IV.
I don't get it, even if Kassandros had children from Thessaloniki, and he did actually have three children (sons) in real world history, they would still be of the Antipatridai dynasty. I don't see how anyone could possibly be of the Argeadai dynasty following the death of Alexandros IV.
Whats the point of the Argeadai Blood trait?
You would have to murder Kassandros then marry Thessaloniki in a maternal marriage... then have a son before she is too old to have children. You have maybe 10 or 11 years to do all that.
Whats the point of the Argeadai Blood trait?
You would have to murder Kassandros then marry Thessaloniki in a maternal marriage... then have a son before she is too old to have children. You have maybe 10 or 11 years to do all that.
Since the trait is "blood of", his children should be eligible, since they do have the blood of the Argeads, even if they don't have the family name.
Maybe these guys have the "Blood of Argead"-trait too?
The country of Paeonia (from the IR-wiki):
https://imperator.paradoxwikis.com/Countries
The country of Paeonia (from the IR-wiki):
https://imperator.paradoxwikis.com/Countries
I mentioned this earlier, but the way that is phrased, the Argeads might not be ruling there anymore. (Also haven't been able to find any confirmation about that actually being an argead offshoot outside these forums)
As far as books go on the subject.... I would recommend Ghost on the Throne by James Romm. There are many books on Alexander and his wars but this book is focused entirely on the shattering of the Empire after his death. It only covers 15 years but if you want to know more about the Wars of the Diadochi it's hard to beat.