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There's so much to do in a Bethesda game that I generally just shrug my shoulders at the bugs and plow into my next hundred hours of enjoyment
 

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I'm not so sure why everyone thinks an early announcement is bad?

Wouldn't an early release equal more time for discussion and forum feedback as things are iterated instead of being completely set in stone? It has already happened in a few instances already it seems.

Of course there is such a thing as setting a release date too early.
 
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I wonder why they decided to announce it so early. They now think it was a huge mistake but I don't get why they thought announcing it so early was a good idea back then either.
Possibly a combination of being overly ambitious and too optimistic? They did think it was to be released in Q1 2015, after all.
 

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I mean dont be too hard on yourselves, Bethesda Softworks can lulz around 300 million dollars and not bat an eye. Completely different kind of studio.

For what its worth, there was no community input or press testing of FO4 before it was basically done, and just needs quests finished off and a few polishes. Hoi4s release path of "when its finished" is, imho, better, than Bethesda's.

Valve was one of the first companies to say "Its out when its done" "Soon(TM)". That philosophy serves them, and Paradox, well.
 

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well F4 will be release when I'm working hard on HOI4 so I feel your pain

That's true, but your suffering is mitigated by your ability to play HOI4. Not in a version where it's very playable for most people, mind you, but you do have that over us.

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For what its worth, there was no community input or press testing of FO4 before it was basically done, and just needs quests finished off and a few polishes. Hoi4s release path of "when its finished" is, imho, better, than Bethesda's.

Valve was one of the first companies to say "Its out when its done" "Soon(TM)". That philosophy serves them, and Paradox, well.

Bethesda's policy has been when it's done from my experiences with the company. We didn't hear anything besides the occasional leak about FO4 until they were ready to say it will be out in just a few months. Yeah it'll be a bug-laden mess at launch, but complicated open world games can't truly be perfectly tested until it reaches the hands of millions of players.
 

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It was utterly retarded and we wont do that in the future. No more announcements before at least alpha, optimally somewhere halfway to beta.

I guess that's what Bob Dylan meant when he sang:
"How many nights must a poor soul sleep, before you announce Vicky 3?"
 
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Well you really need some cash reserves to have the luxury of keeping a game in development until its ready. And even then you need the sense to do that, when you feel its necessary and not just shove it out the door. I am looking at you Warner Brothers!, *cough Arham Knight *cough*

I can understand that Paradox has to adjust their announcment policies. But just a little advice: Have a good think about when you want to release which information and i am not just talking about release announcements. Creating interest in your titels so that it peaks just around release is tricky i can imagine. You will always have us of course, the mental forum activist, but i dont know if that will be enough if Darkrenown wants to present 4 star menus to his dog on a regular basis.

Regards
 

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You think this was announced early? Look at the announcement and release dates for Spore back in the day. Good lord was that game delayed. At least unlike that game the finished product will probably be more complete then the trailers and screenshots are rather than much, much less.
 

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I have no problem with announcing the game early. The only mistake that I can truly criticize them for is giving a tentative release date...
 
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Personally, I don't mind that HoI4 is taking a long time to release. Its better to know its being worked on.
 
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it is what it is. The only way is forward!
 
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well F4 will be release when I'm working hard on HOI4 so I feel your pain

On the flip side the absence of HOI IV has freed up my nights to work on PNP concepts and to learn 3D. Me and Laurence are hoping to open up our alpha with fresh infantry models and general pics. Unless fallout 4 or XCOM 2 end up having a coop mode, in which case our productivity will come crashing down like a glorious comet (are we still making the -1 stab jokes?)

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This is honestly a good thing for me. This way I'll get to play FO4 till I nearly drop dead, recover and be ready in time for HoI 4!
 

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since this is partially about fallout 4, i just have to ask... when you guys heard about fallout 4, did any of you start playing fallout 3? cuz i've had the biggest nostalgia playthrough going:D

and just like seeing the evil french empire burn in the rare, magic, and borderline mythological playthrough where it ISN'T invincible, i'm still discovering things in fallout 3.

also Fallout + HOI crossover confirmed. developed by Alfred E. Neumann and published by LJN.
 

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I actually didn't go back and play Fallout 3, although that's almost exclusively because my Xbox is no longer functional and I don't own it on the PC (well, I do but the disc doesn't work and I don't want to buy it a THIRD time on Steam). I did play some New Vegas though.