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Chikanuk

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"Xenophobic Fallen Empires are now angered specifically by encroaching colonies and frontier outposts, instead of from border friction, meaning they won't declare war just over natural border growth"
Oh, this is really sweet. But then i start to build outpost in north west direction (far away from fallen) they go mad and start war with me. So i cant expand even away from them. Cuz they angered (-250) just by my existance and gonna rape me every 10 years now.
Please revert to old good border friction.
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Sorry for poor english.
 

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I observed a xenophobic fallen empire smacking a tributary of mine for placing a frontier outpost well away from the FE's borders. It seems that they need far more cold, dead space as a buffer between them and the outside world than they used to.
 

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Your much to close to that fallen empire, i'm pretty sure that on the smaller galaxy sizes since the aggression range doesn't change, anyone who spawns near the xenophobe will likely just get killed.
 

CreepyD666

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Just came across this myself, I'm in a corner with a lot of space to my left, but beyond that is the Fallen Empire.
It wasn't until I placed a frontier outpost for the second time (The first time I thought I was going mad and forgot to build it!), that they approached me again, and I kept the peace, losing my outpost.
If you take the diameter of your capital border range with a good number of pops in it, the outpost is a full 2 of those away.. The border would still be over 1 full diameter away once it was built.

Seems like the range needs tweaking down a bit to me.
 

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Or add a secondary border to give people an idea of 'Tresspassers will be probed till Purged' etc.

Like honestly you think someone as advanced as a fallen empire would have like comm sats broadcasting a 'stay away' message.