Factories vanish after peace conference

[CantGetNoSleep]

So playing as Poland and reforming the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, conquer Lithuania (they've got a yummy 14 factories), and... five of them just disappear. Here are a couple of screenshots before/after the peace conference of Kaunas province - 1 civ and 1 mil go missing from that one.

I'm ever so sure this never happens to Germany.... The game is such a cheat in the name of balance, it's tedious.

 

[Vlad123]

yes this is a guly thing

 

[Archerich]

It's more than likely a difference in Max Factories in a State tech under dispersed/concentrated industry, but otherwise it just seems to be that either something bugged slightly or you did this manually to make a point after some factories disappeared, thus leaving the one open slot.

 

[SchwarzKatze]

Don't you always lose factories when annexing countries?

 

[Mousetick]

Did you take the Form the Commonwealth decision before or after the peace conference?
This guy seems to have run into a similar issue, and found neither explanation nor solution:
Link to reddit Factories lost after annexing core states (formable nation)

 

[SchwarzKatze]

I'm not 100% sure but I think there's a glitch(?) where the game bases the amount of factories kept on a state's category, unmodified by tech bonus.

 

[FindFloppies]

Core state factories vs occupied/annexed state factories. Total factories will be lower for you as the occupying power in that same piece of ground; i.e. Lithuania could have X factories as Lithuania on Lithuania's cores. Poland, on non-core area in Lithuania, will not have as many slots available.

 

[jpd]

Core state factories vs occupied/annexed state factories. Total factories will be lower for you as the occupying power in that same piece of ground; i.e. Lithuania could have X factories as Lithuania on Lithuania's cores. Poland, on non-core area in Lithuania, will not have as many slots available.

Correct. Non core max slots is half of the max you get when it is a core. This excludes the extra slots awarded through NF's. Any excess slots are removed at the peace conference when you annex.

This is a rule that predates the changes made by La Resistance, where after annexing you got full use, instantly, of all the factories in the annexed states. Since occupation in the old system gave you (on average) 50% usage of the existing factories, this rule was there to give you roughly the same number of usable factories before and after annexation.

La Resistance has changed the rules, though. Even in annexed non core states you still have to deal with resistance and compliance. Which reduces the usage of the existing factories by the level of compliance. Cutting the 50% from the annexation (which actually removes slots and factories) by another percentage.

It is therefore better to make the states into puppets instead of annexing them outright. If you feel that the current system is too harsh though, you could always make a suggestion in the suggestions forum to have it looked at.

 

[CantGetNoSleep]

Correct. Non core max slots is half of the max you get when it is a core. This excludes the extra slots awarded through NF's. Any excess slots are removed at the peace conference when you annex.

This is a rule that predates the changes made by La Resistance, where after annexing you got full use, instantly, of all the factories in the annexed states. Since occupation in the old system gave you (on average) 50% usage of the existing factories, this rule was there to give you roughly the same number of usable factories before and after annexation.

La Resistance has changed the rules, though. Even in annexed non core states you still have to deal with resistance and compliance. Which reduces the usage of the existing factories by the level of compliance. Cutting the 50% from the annexation (which actually removes slots and factories) by another percentage.

It is therefore better to make the states into puppets instead of annexing them outright. If you feel that the current system is too harsh though, you could always make a suggestion in the suggestions forum to have it looked at.

Thanks for all the replies. I do normally use puppets for these reasons. However here I get cores through the Polish Lithuanian commonwealth.

The issue is that I‘ve tried reforming the polish Lithuanian commonwealth before doing the peace conference - so these are my cores - but that didn’t work. I get all the factories once I do the polish lithuanien commonwealth, but then it drops by five after pc.

I also tried during it after. Failure. I tried waiting to capitulate Lithuania. Failure. I think basically I’ve tried everything / every combination and it always ends in failure to get the factories, despite the lands being cores. I think it basically removes all the focus factories.

I reckon it’s a bug. So I’ve reported it as such.

Of course Germany doesn’t have this problem with Anschluss, Memel, Sudetenland, etc. Yawn.

 

[kettyo]

You'll get the cores back when you form the Commonwealth and then you can repopulate with factories.

 

[Vlad123]

You'll get the cores back when you form the Commonwealth and then you can repopulate with factories.

the problem is leaking factories. this is unfair. if factories are set up as national focus, event, decision or built normally, they must remain. And that's that.

 

[kettyo]

the problem is leaking factories. this is unfair. if factories are set up as national focus, event, decision or built normally, they must remain. And that's that

I think they remain. They used to be destroyed with cores but i remember so it was changed sometime so that factories stay. I remember i have that checked with 1.8. I'm sure with 1.4 factories were still destroyed. Are you playing current vanilla version?

 

[Vlad123]

I think they remain. They used to be destroyed with cores but i remember so it was changed sometime so that factories stay. I remember i have that checked with 1.8. I'm sure with 1.4 factories were still destroyed. Are you playing current vanilla version?

i think the creator use the 1.9.3

 

[CantGetNoSleep]

1.9.3 - all DLCs.

 

[roman566]

Do factories also disappear when annexing a puppet through subject management?

 

[CantGetNoSleep]

You'll get the cores back when you form the Commonwealth and then you can repopulate with factories.

The issue is it removes the slots and factories from the focus tree it seems, so no, I can't ever get those factories back I'm afraid. Doesn't matter if I do the Commonwealth before PC/after PC/etc. They just vanish once the PC is done (note they do appear to be in the province at the PC, but once you click done, poof, they're gone).