Faction Members Stay in Faction Even at 100 Opinion?

[Josar]

I am having trouble understanding the criteria for when someone joins or leaves a faction. I have given a vassal land to make their opinion go to 100, but they will still stay in.

Of all the things in Crusader Kings 2 managing vassals seems to be the hardest, so any tips would help.

 

[Andrew0Red]

Afaik, many things are very random, like factions and scheming. I.e. somebody can have 100 opinion of you and still go for independence or plot to murder you...

I can give you the general tips of trying to respect de-jure structure, which limits internal disliking and warring a bit. If possible, you may also want to outlaw internal wars.

 

[Whizzer]

If they were coerced into the faction by someone else, they stay for a while, regardless of opinion.

 

[Josar]

It just seems impossible to guarantee the faction stays under 100 percent of my troop level, granted someone did excommunicate me.

 

[jonjowett]

It just seems impossible to guarantee the faction stays under 100 percent of my troop level, granted someone did excommunicate me.

Imprison them (preferably with justification).

• Vassals in prison are automatically removed from factions.
• Send the marshal to suppress revolts in their current location, if the imprisonment chance is low.
• You can generate imprisonment reasons in many ways, eg:
  • Spying focus (from WoL)
  • Excommunication (but this might be tricky for you because you are already excommunicated)
  • Exploit: Send a "stop plot" request to someone who will say "yes"; about 3 days before they reply, send "stop backing plot" to all the backers; 3 days later, the plot stops; 1 day later, all the backers say they refuse to stop backing the plot.
• If you have the option to put them in house arrest, do so - this ensures they won't die for a long long time.
• Warning: If you fail to imprison a faction member, you may trigger the faction revolt.

Alternatively, you can imprison faction members by causing them to revolt as an individual - eg. plot to revoke one of their counties, they will normally refuse, and they will be imprisoned when you win the war.

 

[Aardvark Bellay]

Outside of imprisoning you can also use your spymaster (scheme job) to countercoerce them, so to speak.
Convince them to leave or to not join a faction.

Not 100% sure they are leaving when already a faction member, but i believe to recall it worked.
At least that was the to first to go option in the past..

 

[FondMemberofSociety]

Not 100% sure they are leaving when already a faction member, but i believe to recall it worked.
At least that was the to first to go option in the past..

This did happen once in my last playthrough. Unfortunately, a vassal who just happened to be in a faction when I got the random event targeting him occurred only this once. It would be a lot easier to test if it was a targeted action like forcing vassals with hooks out of factions in CK3.