Fact of the Day: Conquering primitive pops

[ashbery76]

I would hope to see the race ethos effect this.Pacifist pops would be easier to oppress while militarist would be bothersome for a lot longer..

 

[lemmox]

I would hope to see the race ethos effect this.Pacifist pops would be easier to oppress while militarist would be bothersome for a lot longer..

That's not what pacifism is. Just ask the British how easy it was to oppress Gandhi and his pacifist movement.

 

[Exemplar Voss]

Not what either is, really. Besides you're giving militarists a whole galaxy to conquer. You'd expect them to be happy, if you want to look at it through that lens.

Either way it doesn't seem relevant, this is cultural disfunction with higher tech levels. The amount of oppression involved is variable and unrelated.

 

[Ziffallo]

Crushing primitive races makes me a fungi!

 

[AG_Wittmann]

What i would do, if i have access to a primitive intelligence population ... maybe playing with them Civilization/Crusader Kings/Europa Universalis/Victoria in real ...

... and then i would them exterminate, because, Paradox published a new patch, so i can't use this old savegame more ...

 

[GC13]

That's not what pacifism is. Just ask the British how easy it was to oppress Gandhi and his pacifist movement.

Pacifist resistance doesn't rely on making the people hard to oppress, it relies on making oppressing them difficult to justify to the soldiers doing it and the people watching the news back home. It's a realization that in a force-on-force conflict they will lose, badly, and everyone will consider any harsh measures to be regrettable but justified, so changing the terms of engagement.

 

[stumason]

Pacifist resistance doesn't rely on making the people hard to oppress, it relies on making oppressing them difficult to justify to the soldiers doing it and the people watching the news back home. It's a realization that in a force-on-force conflict they will lose, badly, and everyone will consider any harsh measures to be regrettable but justified, so changing the terms of engagement.

Quite - had the British (after fighting WW2) had the stomach and willpower to fight Indian independence peeps like Gandhi, they would have and done so effectively. It's all down to the willingness of the population to accept and inflict casualties.

Without WW2, the British would never have given up the Empire in the manner they did. In fact, in the early part of the century, there was talk of forming an Imperial Federation which would have created the single, largest Union of nations on the planet.

Shame that didn't pan out - damn you, Germany!