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Expecting al DLC is kinda entitled, IMNHO. They run a business, not a charity.

Besides: it's just a pre-order bonus.

Besides 2: only one person in multiplayer needs to own the DLC to allow everyone to play it.
 

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Linguistics 101 on a Paradox forum?
 

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Too funny Zealot.

I think you are the only one who thinks "full" means all DLCs. Everyone else is smart enough to figure out it means the full base game & not a sample demo or something like that.....

Everyone else is taking the interpretation "they said it doesn't have any DLC, so 'full' means just a normal copy" instead of the other way around "they said full, then they said 'no DLC', that's an obvious misuse of language".
 

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Expecting al DLC is kinda entitled, IMNHO. They run a business, not a charity.

Besides: it's just a pre-order bonus.

And never did I question the business practice itself. They can, and WILL, do as they see fit.

Besides 2: only one person in multiplayer needs to own the DLC to allow everyone to play it.

And long may they continue like that. Firaxis isn't so understanding. One guy without a DLC and no one else plays Civ V with that DLC in that session. Will Paradox keep its identity or copy Firaxis? Time will tell.
 

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Full means "Not a demo or Beta", not including any Expansions or DLC unless specifically specified. (ed)

It has always meant that in the game industry, Zealot. I welcome you to try and find any examples to disprove it any way.
 

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I think you're wrong about that. When I first read it I knew it was the full game, meaning no demo. But I didn't count on any DLCs. Actually I read a lot the word full in different kind of software, opposite to demo or trial version.
 

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Besides, if it's a gift, and it's stripped down to the bone...

Don't be so silly. The vanilla game is hardly stripped down... it is more complex that 99.5% of other games on the market. AND, PDS throw is 75% of the DLC mechanics for free with the patches.

You do realise you are saying that the FREE STUFF you are getting is not big enough right?
 

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If I preorder from steam will I still get another copy of ck2 even if I already own it? (confirmation of this?)
Yes - I already had it and have gifted my 2nd copy to my son's Steam account so we can play multiplayer.
 

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That makes absolutely no semantic sense. It really is arguing for the sake of arguing. The word "full" means, according to wordreference.com:
1. holding or containing as much as possible; filled to capacity or near capacity
2. abundant in supply, quantity, number, etc: full of energy
3. having consumed enough food or drink
4. (esp of the face or figure) rounded or plump; not thin
5. (prenominal) with no part lacking; complete: a full dozen
6. (prenominal) with all privileges, rights, etc; not restricted: a full member
7. (prenominal) of, relating to, or designating a relationship established by descent from the same parents: full brother
8. filled with emotion or sentiment: a full heart
9. (postpositive) followed by of: occupied or engrossed (with): full of his own projects
10. powerful or rich in volume and sound
11. completing a piece or section; concluding: a full close

The point that I'm trying to make is that no company should use the word "full" when it has no plans of using it. "Full" should only be used when they meant it. It adds nothing to this specific case, because if the newsletter had said "you get a free copy of Crusader Kings II" (notice I deleted the word full) there would be little room for expectation on a FULL game!
Now all it does is upsetting those fans who are not stupid enough to know what words mean.

Besides, if it's a gift, and it's stripped down to the bone, it's not showing the best of intentions is it? And GamerGate's "CK2 Collection" is not what it used to be. It's complete now, but when I bought it it only had a few DLCs included, and Sword of Islam wasn't one of them (and in all honesty I think it should have been).

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Wow.
I'm literally at a loss for words.
Paradox gives you a free game as a pre-order bonus and you just spit it back at them and say "Give me all of the DLCs and expansions." You sound so... selfish. So... self-entitled.
 

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No, no it isn't.
1) It makes the game much more enjoyable.
2) The newsletter said "you get a free full copy of Crusader Kings II". So they lied.

1/10 overall. People are getting very sloppy.
 

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It's actually the only way to get a gift. People who not have it seem to get the game in their library and can therefore not gift it to someone.

Yeah, that's what happened with me. I have the GG version of CK2, so Steam automatically put the new version of CK2 into my Library and gave me no option to gift it. I like Steam, but things like that are pretty annoying.
 

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Wow.
I'm literally at a loss for words.
Paradox gives you a free game as a pre-order bonus and you just spit it back at them and say "Give me all of the DLCs and expansions." You sound so... selfish. So... self-entitled.

This is a disgusting insult and completely unwarranted. NOT ONCE have I spit back at Paradox! Selfish? For a game that I already OWN in FULL? If I'm selfish then where's my personal gain? Self-Entitled? When this is affecting everybody and not just ME? Again, people use words as if they really know their meaning, and they're so stupid that they don't know what they mean. Your "comment" is an absolute disgrace and nothing but insulting!


ALSO:
I feel quite vindicated by what happened to me yesterday. I tried to give away my CK2 copy and what happened was:
1) Those who really like the game already had paid for it.
2) Those who could really like the game got it when they pre-ordered EU4.
3) Those who also like the game, have it, but didn't pay for it refused the gift, because they rather keep their FULL pirated copy. And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what FULL means. End of!
4) I didn't find anyone who disliked the game yet, but there's still the traditional indifference to strategy games that I'm sure most of you know what I'm talking about.
 

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  • Heir to the Throne
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Dungeonland
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Divine Wind
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • Cities: Skylines - Snowfall
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Magicka 2 - Signup Campaign
  • Warlock: Master of the Arcane
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Victoria 2 Beta
  • Magicka: Wizard Wars Founder Wizard
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • 500k Club
  • War of the Roses
  • Victoria 3 Sign Up
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV
3) Those who also like the game, have it, but didn't pay for it refused the gift, because they rather keep their FULL pirated copy. And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what FULL means. End of!

No matter how many times you try to repeat your flawed argument, doesn't make it ring any more true. But by all means keep going - it's not like anyone is falling for it.