Experienced map modder wanted!

[Dutchemperor]

I still prefer Hungarian names for all provinces. I know that later some states can be released but look at for example vanilla Romania: they don't use Hungarian names in northern Transylvania although it can be given to Hungary by Vienna Diktat. I think province names should represent the things as they are in 1936.

Bratislava - Pozsony
Zilina - Zsolna
Banska Bystrica - Besztercebánya
Kosice - Kassa
Presov - Ungvár (actually the name of Uzghorod, but Ungvár is the capital of Subcarpathia)
Satu Mare - Szatmárnémeti
Cluj Napoca - Kolozsvár
Bacau - Here's a problem: Bacau isn't even in Transylvania. The HoI authors made quite a geographical mistake here, since the region of Bacau should be called Máramarossziget
Brasov - Brassó
Sibiu - Nagyszeben
Timisoara - Temesvár
Zrenjanin - Nagybecskerek
Novi Sad - Újvidék
And a minor correction: the vanilla HoI calls the city of Pécs falsely Pecs. It does matter in Hungarian.

Yes But é ë etc. is harder to search and so they dont do that, the game is english, not hungarian. about bacau, i already told.

Slovakia can be hungarian execpt from Bratislava, transylvania -> the thing i made. A-H is different from other countries because of the many culutures and diffecult names of cities. i am for the majority culutre thing because hungary is NOT independent, it ia actually part of austria-hungaryand there austria is more the boss then hungary. austria controls whole a-h as puppet.

 

[Parokki]

I would vote for just removing these HUGE LETTERS from the map (ya know, "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA", "GERMANY", "FRANCE", "SOVIET UNION")

I completely agree! Especially because there is no Soviet Union in the game, and POLAND is almost entirely over Germany.

 

[Dutchemperor]

I completely agree! Especially because there is no Soviet Union in the game, and POLAND is almost entirely over Germany.

yes, that should be removed.

 

[Vaximillian]

Those HUGE LETTERS will be removed, I promise you

In fact, I simply don't know how to retain them while editing

 

[Vaximillian]

Vax... While you're at it, could you please take a look and see if the "Germany", "Soviet Union", etc that's on the map is on the colorscaleslayer? Can't remeber and it would be a nice little mod to make.

It always been a bit awkard playing a tsarist Russia with the words "Soviet Union" over it..

It's not on the colorscales layer, that's the fact

 

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It's not on the colorscales layer, that's the fact

Hmm... where can it be then?

 

[Vaximillian]

Hmm... where can it be then?

I don't know

 

[Dermaglen]

Yes But é ë etc. is harder to search and so they dont do that, the game is english, not hungarian. about bacau, i already told.

Slovakia can be hungarian execpt from Bratislava, transylvania -> the thing i made. A-H is different from other countries because of the many culutures and diffecult names of cities. i am for the majority culutre thing because hungary is NOT independent, it ia actually part of austria-hungaryand there austria is more the boss then hungary. austria controls whole a-h as puppet.

Although the game is English it won't change the fact that it is gramatically incorrect does it? I told it about the province name on the map but if it remains Pecs in the province names files it won't make harder to search does it?
And why Bratislava should be Pressburg? It is near the Austrian border and mostly habited by Germans you are right but it is in Hungary and the population is highly assimilated. Look at the example of Sopron: more Germans than Hungarians but most of them wants to live in Hungary.
And no, Hungary is idependent in it's home affairs and Austria isn't the boss, it is an equal union between the two countries. The real boss is the Kaiser and König. If you read the alternate timeline of Kaiserreich you can see that in 1927 Hungary nearly became the strongest power of the Monarchy and it failed just because the German Kaiser interved to save the equal power in the Monarchy. Altough Austria was stronger than Hungary in 1867 they paid the 70% percent of the common spendings so Hungary started to develop strongly and really fast: they became a big industrial power in just a half century. Austria still pays most of the common spendings (I guess around 60-62%) so Hungary is still the most developing part of the Monarchy. And yeah Austria controls all A-H as puppets in the game but it is just an obligate solution to show the common foreign affairs. Please don't try look smarter when you do not know what are you talking about. Thanks!

 

[Vaximillian]

For Dutchemperor and Dermaglen:

Please don't turn this thread into a flamewar, ok guys?

Please try not to odffend yourselves

 

[Dutchemperor]

For Dutchemperor and Dermaglen:

Please don't turn this thread into a flamewar, ok guys?

Please try not to odffend yourselves

oko

And what you want, an very absolutist part of the most federalised country in the kaierreich world. something like a democratic province in nazi germany.

 

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@dutchemperor hey, chill out. A-H is federalised, it is made up of Galizien, Bohemia, Hungary, Austria, and Croatia. Austria has the puppets Bohemia, Galizien and Bosnien, this is the Austrian part of A-H. Hungary (in game terms) is a puppet of Austria, but only to show its still "one country". Croatia is the puppet of Hungary - this is the only federalised part in the Hungarian Kingdom proper. sorry for my english. i hope youll understand it, though.

 

[Dermaglen]

@dutchemperor hey, chill out. A-H is federalised, it is made up of Galizien, Bohemia, Hungary, Austria, and Croatia. Austria has the puppets Bohemia, Galizien and Bosnien, this is the Austrian part of A-H. Hungary (in game terms) is a puppet of Austria, but only to show its still "one country". Croatia is the puppet of Hungary - this is the only federalised part in the Hungarian Kingdom proper. sorry for my english. i hope youll understand it, though.

I am trying to tell him the same since a while but he can't understand it...
BTW: The province name of Beiping (Northern Peace) should be changed back to Beijing (Northern Capital). It was changed by Shanxi warlords after Kuomintang government was formed in Nanjing to show that the only legitimate ruler of China is the KMT. In KR it didn't happen and Qing Empire was restored and rules from Beijing.

 

[Vaximillian]

BTW: The province name of Beiping (Northern Peace) should be changed back to Beijing (Northern Capital). It was changed by Shanxi warlords after Kuomintang government was formed in Nanjing to show that the only legitimate ruler of China is the KMT. In KR it didn't happen and Qing Empire was restored and rules from Beijing.

OK, I'll do it.

 

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Slovakia can be hungarian execpt from Bratislava, transylvania -> the thing i made. A-H is different from other countries because of the many culutures and diffecult names of cities. i am for the majority culutre thing because hungary is NOT independent, it ia actually part of austria-hungaryand there austria is more the boss then hungary. austria controls whole a-h as puppet.

Actually, Austria does controls the whole of A-H as a puppet, but just to show some kind of 'unity' in the Austro-Hungarian Empire. In this alternate storyline, Austria is NOT the boss, and its control over the remaining states of A-H is very tenuous, making them quite independent, specially Hungary. Austria-Hungary is still an empire, but just in name.

 

[Dutchemperor]

Actually, Austria does controls the whole of A-H as a puppet, but just to show some kind of 'unity' in the Austro-Hungarian Empire. In this alternate storyline, Austria is NOT the boss, and its control over the remaining states of A-H is very tenuous, making them quite independent, specially Hungary. Austria-Hungary is still an empire, but just in name.

maybe it is a idea to make an off map nation austria-hungary wich controls all the a-h countries, and then later in the game it can came back on the map after the a-h civil war (if it happens).

 

[unmerged(171402)]

maybe it is a idea to make an off map nation austria-hungary wich controls all the a-h countries, and then later in the game it can came back on the map after the a-h civil war (if it happens).

Maybe. But it'd show a much more united A-H. In the Kaiserreich storyline it's supposed to be like it is right now, with Austria controlling the other parts of the empire as independent puppets to show that, while still an empire, Austria authority is in decay, and the empire itself is at the brink of collapse because of the many cultures within it.

 

[Dutchemperor]

Maybe. But it'd show a much more united A-H. In the Kaiserreich storyline it's supposed to be like it is right now, with Austria controlling the other parts of the empire as independent puppets to show that, while still an empire, Austria authority is in decay, and the empire itself is at the brink of collapse because of the many cultures within it.

that is but i never have had a game when hungary won, almost always austria controlling the whole old empire and then changes to dualism or stays austria (with mant crazy cores and not cores in the empire)

 

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that is but i never have had a game when hungary won, almost always austria controlling the whole old empire and then changes to dualism or stays austria (with mant crazy cores and not cores in the empire)

I think I lost you here. I was talking about the state of the A-H empire up to 1936. Whatever happens next is just either AI or the player's decisions. At this point, Austria has a very tenuous control over the rest of the empire, as I said. Because of this, Hungary would have enough power within the Monarchy to be able to Magyarize the cities under its rule, or at least remove the Austrian-related names. As of this, Bratislava would be Pozsony and not Pressburg, and so on.

 

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While I'm happy to see discussion on the subject of the Hungarian names, I would like to ask everyone to keep the discussion friendly. There is such a thing as agreeing to disagree on a subject.

My stance is still that I agree that Hungarian citynames would be the ones used within Hungary, but would they be the names used in foreign maps? Many cities (think of Moscow, Munich, Milan, Venice etc) have different names on the map than Russians, Germans or Italians would use because the English names are much better known than their original names.

I think we should keep the names as they are until we have reached some kind of consensus over the naming of the cities. Note that the opinion of the devellopment team itself is also split on this matter.

 

[^_AC_^]

I completely agree with FlyingDutchie.