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So, the first one cost $14.99, the second one will cost $9.99. Is the next one going to be really big or is this thing getting changed again?

After the much hated first one, didn't they promise the second one to be bigger??? The price doesn't indicate that.
 

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So, the first one cost $14.99, the second one will cost $9.99. Is the next one going to be really big or is this thing getting changed again?
I'm not sure the next one will count since it's a country pack not an expansion pack
 

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After the much hated first one, didn't they promise the second one to be bigger??? The price doesn't indicate that.
They didn't promise it after, they made it very clear when they released TfV that it was smaller than they intended and the pass would change to accommodate that
 

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So you admit TvF was small.

Then you release DoD which is smaller and make the season pack cover it like it is a big, decent, content filled expansion.

Are you serious ? This must be a joke.
 

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They promised 50 € worth of content so perhaps what they're doing is that since the first one was 15 € they make the next one 10 € so that the last once can be 25 €.
 

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They promised 50 € worth of content so perhaps what they're doing is that since the first one was 15 € they make the next one 10 € so that the last once can be 25 €.

Then again, if they thought the first one was worth 15 bucks, then how much can we expect from the 3rd one? 7 NF trees and 4 minor gameplay features?
 

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Then again, if they thought the first one was worth 15 bucks, then how much can we expect from the 3rd one? 7 NF trees and 4 minor gameplay features?
Good point.
 

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So², does this means that you intend to release a $25 dlc as the third expansion, to equal the promise $49,99 value? I hope so, because I won't stand any longer your expansion policy for HoI IV. The game is almost a year old, and only little was added to it.
That's the current plan. Part of the reason why this DLC is smaller (and more focused on content instead of new mechanics) is to free up code resources to do air revamp, AI work and bug fixing, so we can focus on new mechanics in the next DLC cycle.
 

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You folks might be interested in this post too:

The plan is so stupid tho.

It more or less points out that the 3rd exp will be 25 dollars no matter how much/most likely LITTLE content it covers. Considering TvF and DoD this means like NF for nepal and a pacific island and maybe some minor updates.

This should be sold as a 5 doller addon. Calling this a DLC is an insult.
 

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The plan is so stupid tho.

It more or less points out that the 3rd exp will be 25 dollars no matter how much/most likely LITTLE content it covers. Considering TvF and DoD this means like NF for nepal and a pacific island and maybe some minor updates.

This should be sold as a 5 doller addon. Calling this a DLC is an insult.
In my opinion they never should have done an expansion pass. It obviously has led them to focus on cranking out DLC at certain cost levels instead of focusing on content. Had there not been the requirement to hit 50 € with the first expansions then things probably would have been quite different, since then they wouldn't be forced to e.g. make a small expansion just to make the money fit.
 

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The plan is so stupid tho.

It more or less points out that the 3rd exp will be 25 dollars no matter how much/most likely LITTLE content it covers. Considering TvF and DoD this means like NF for nepal and a pacific island and maybe some minor updates.

This should be sold as a 5 doller addon. Calling this a DLC is an insult.

They had a pretty good initial plan: one Allied, one Axis and then probably one with major new features (like espionage).
The Axis one had so much potential. More NF-trees for Finland, maybe even Argentina in a what-if. Plus: it just screamed "Wunderwaffen". This one should have been much bigger than TfV cause the losing side is always more interesting, trying to change history. Instead they totally wasted the Axis one and now nobody will trust them with the 3rd expansion.

It's almost like they tried to make room for "expansion pass 2"! Why spend all ideas on the first 3 expansions...
 

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Do you know what DLC stands for?

Do you know what "expansion pass" stands for?
They defined it as: "Includes Sabaton Soundtrack, Together for Victory - 2 more expansions to come!"

So if this is a DLC, then can we expect two more expansions in this pass? :rolleyes:
 

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I bought the expansion pack for actual expansions.
Now I found out 2/3 of the included expansions in my pass are covering the following:

Nation focuses, visual guys running around with voices, and a puppet system. Grrrrreat.

Never buying or preordering again from you, that is for sure.
 

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Do you know what "expansion pass" stands for?
They defined it as: "Includes Sabaton Soundtrack, Together for Victory - 2 more expansions to come!"

So if this is a DLC, then can we expect two more expansions in this pass? :rolleyes:
Use Content(Or country pack) instead of DLC. Both expansions and Content/Country packs are DLC, that's what he's on about.

I bought the expansion pack for actual expansions.
Now I found out 2/3 of the included expansions in my pass are covering the following:

Nation focuses, visual guys running around with voices, and a puppet system. Grrrrreat.

Never buying or preordering again from you, that is for sure.

The funny thing is, if they said: "This is availble for 10€ but is not included in the expansion pass" I would have been a lot more ok with it. Now I feel cheated somehow, like most on here today. For the first time HOI IV team/Paradox has deluded me. And it pains me to say those things :(