Excommunicate prestige cost drastically lower after applying DV 2.1 beta patch

[Kanzaki Levex Iejir]

Hi,

First, I tried to revoke excommunication from King of Norway, but it didn't work, google directed me to DV patch 2.1 beta, and indeed, with this patch it is fixed, however:

I have CK and DV both (from impulse), on the title screen it said it was version 2.0.
Prestige cost to excommunicate King of Poland was 201 and 358 for King of Sweden.

In version 2.1 beta it is 100 for King of Poland and 192 for King of Sweden, fairly close to half the amount, which is a rather drastic decrease in cost.

Is this the way it's supposed to be?

I read through the patch changelog, Here, but it didn't mention this cost reduction.

Also, in 2.0 when I click excommunicate with either king selected, I get an overview of the entire court, while in 2.1 beta, I only get a "list" of selected character.
In 2.1 beta, how are you supposed to excommunicate someone doesn't hold land?
Unless of course, you aren't supposed to be able to, though I don't see why not.
Lastly, I'm pretty new to the game (a few days), so there might just be something I've missed.


P.S.
The game rocks.

Edit:
I found the answer to the excommunication of courtiers:

WAD.

In earliar patches you could excommunicate anybody, but that was easily exploited. Excomed people can't inherit, so if the PC was 20 in line for a throne he could become first with a few mouse clicks.

Nick

This makes sense.

Also, I noticed that the supply limit of all my provinces were many times higher than in version 2.0 (four times, to be exact), I didn't know before what supply limit actually did, now I do, and while the increase is mentioned in the changelog, now when you hover the mouse over the supply limit number, the math sadly doesn't add up.
I wish there was a line that explained that since the province is yours, and you get a multiplier of four.

I haven't tested, but;

"- There is now higher threshold before attrition in friendly territory."

does this count for allied provinces too?

 

[ConjurerDragon]

Hi,

First, I tried to revoke excommunication from King of Norway, but it didn't work, google directed me to DV patch 2.1 beta, and indeed, with this patch it is fixed, however:

Did you get the LATEST 2.1 beta patch? There were several and you should be sure that you have the one from here
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...ch-NEW-BETA-PATCH-released-on-15-October-2008
from 15.10.2008

I have CK and DV both (from impulse), on the title screen it said it was version 2.0.
Prestige cost to excommunicate King of Poland was 201 and 358 for King of Sweden.

In version 2.1 beta it is 100 for King of Poland and 192 for King of Sweden, fairly close to half the amount, which is a rather drastic decrease in cost.

Is this the way it's supposed to be?

There is no relation between the title of the victim and the cost. If you are the papal controller and want to excommunicate someone then the pope needs to have more prestige available than the targets piety. So targets who have a high piety could even be immune to excommunicating or very costly. Targets with low piety could be very cheap targets.

 

[Kanzaki Levex Iejir]

Did you get the LATEST 2.1 beta patch? There were several and you should be sure that you have the one from here
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...ch-NEW-BETA-PATCH-released-on-15-October-2008
from 15.10.2008

Yes, that is the one I got, the bottom one.

There is no relation between the title of the victim and the cost. If you are the papal controller and want to excommunicate someone then the pope needs to have more prestige available than the targets piety. So targets who have a high piety could even be immune to excommunicating or very costly. Targets with low piety could be very cheap targets.

If this is true, that it's a one to one value, and it was like this in 2.0 and the it's same in 2.1 beta, then for some reason King of Sweden and King of Poland only have half of the piety in 2.1 beta compared to what they had in 2.0.
Of course, it's the exact same saved game, as in, I paused then saved, I loaded the game in 2.1 beta and paused before hitting the "start game" button.

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

Yes, that is the one I got, the bottom one.


If this is true, that it's a one to one value, and it was like this in 2.0 and the it's same in 2.1 beta, then for some reason King of Sweden and King of Poland only have half of the piety in 2.1 beta compared to what they had in 2.0.
Of course, it's the exact same saved game, as in, I paused then saved, I loaded the game in 2.1 beta and paused before hitting the "start game" button.

Did you continue a save-game started with 2.0 ? That might explain this.

 

[Kanzaki Levex Iejir]

Did you continue a save-game started with 2.0 ? That might explain this.

Yes, I did.