Everything to easy and made for the mass market :(

[drake000666]

Will after playing the demo for a a day now it looks like the game was made for the mass market, I should not be shocked I guess every growing game company will head in this direction giving time


For the modders out their I hope you can turn this into something Challenging and not lets see if I can form Italy 20 years after start date or conquer the world in 100 years, will just have to wait and see and hope

 

[Felicity]

I really like when someone criticizes something but doesn't actually state anything they find wrong with it.

 

[Sepulcher]

Will after playing the demo for a a day now it looks like the game was made for the mass market, I should not be shocked I guess every growing game company will head in this direction giving time


For the modders out their I hope you can turn this into something Challenging and not lets see if I can form Italy 20 years after start date or conquer the world in 100 years, will just have to wait and see and hope

Show us a screenshot of an Italy formed by venice in the demo's time frame, you have longer than 20 years to do it in actualy. When you manage to do this we might take you seriosly, untill then shutup please.

 

[unmerged(94472)]

Ummm...........you DO realize that the start date for the demo is about 50 years later than the earliest start date in the actual game, right? I'm pretty sure that was deliberate in order to give a head start on tech and ideas, and therefore is SUPPOSED to be easier.

 

[Kerschey]

It's pretty clear that they made armies and navies move around on the map in order to draw in the Sonic the Hedgehog demographic. Completely shameless.

 

[Smitzer]

And after release it would be nice to see a WC in 100years...that´s not possible either in my opinion.

 

[Haresus]

Will after playing the demo for a a day now it looks like the game was made for the mass market, I should not be shocked I guess every growing game company will head in this direction giving time


For the modders out their I hope you can turn this into something Challenging and not lets see if I can form Italy 20 years after start date or conquer the world in 100 years, will just have to wait and see and hope

Your criticism has been noted. To make the game more challenging, we have added giant robots that will smash your empire to pieces every 5 years.

Trust me, you won't see Italy united.

 

[tapewormlondon]

Will after playing the demo for a a day now it looks like the game was made for the mass market, I should not be shocked I guess every growing game company will head in this direction giving time


For the modders out their I hope you can turn this into something Challenging and not lets see if I can form Italy 20 years after start date or conquer the world in 100 years, will just have to wait and see and hope

Sigh. Same old complaint, same old tired complaint.

Please do tell me how this game is mass market, please do

 

[aenariel]

It's pretty clear that they made armies and navies move around on the map in order to draw in the Sonic the Hedgehog demographic. Completely shameless.

HA! That explains perfectly why I felt completely sucked in. Everything makes sense now. Thank you.

*Back to completing my 5th WC in under 20 years as Portugal*

 

[Ivashanko]

If you don't like it, don't but it. Play Magna Mundi for EU3 then if you think this game and EU3 were too easy. Then everyone's happy! ;p

 

[aenariel]

Your criticism has been noted. To make the game more challenging, we have added giant robots that will smash your empire to pieces every 5 years.

A friend of mine still says, quote, Sim City will always be the best city sim because you can summon UFOs to destroy your city when you feel bored, end quote.

 

[unmerged(66346)]

I'm very curious on how you managed to unify Italy and conquer the world in 100.

 

[drake000666]

Will just keep my opinion to myself from now on looks like even the forum are overrun by mass market teens who think this game is not getting dumbed down.

 

[somethingtolose]

Will after playing the demo for a a day now it looks like the game was made for the mass market, I should not be shocked I guess every growing game company will head in this direction giving time


For the modders out their I hope you can turn this into something Challenging and not lets see if I can form Italy 20 years after start date or conquer the world in 100 years, will just have to wait and see and hope

>Mass Market
>Europa Universalis IV


LOL

 

[Xia]

Will just keep my opinion to myself from now on looks like even the forum are overrun by mass market teens who think this game is not getting dumbed down.

As someone already stated - prove that it's easy to form Italy in 20 years and do it. you have 28 years, and start as one of the strongest sides in Italy; if it's EASY, you should manage it comfortably in that time right?

 

[Sepulcher]

Will just keep my opinion to myself from now on looks like even the forum are overrun by mass market teens who think this game is not getting dumbed down.

Yes, please keep your opinion (and you insults) to yourself next time around, alright? And what exactly is a "mass market teen". The answer: A blatant, inaccurate steriotype.

 

[Ivashanko]

Will just keep my opinion to myself from now on looks like even the forum are overrun by mass market teens who think this game is not getting dumbed down.

You know I don't agree with you, but mostly because EU3 was itself not all that complex of a game. It was an excellent game, don't get me wrong, but there were a lot of things that were lacking. I'm going to wait a few years to buy this game, not only to allow expansions to come out and the price to go down, but also to give mods time to develop. EU3 really came alive when one began using the mods developed for it.

That being said, the thing that most discourages me about EU4 is that Paradox developers didn't take more ideas from mods. Given how underdevlopt religion seems to be in EU4, Dei Gratia in particular should have been incorporated. That mod was sheer genius.

 

[sturmchef]

I am too old to consider myself a teen. I played 5 or 6 hours of the demo, tried all countries for a bit and just played Ottoman all the way, I did not get an understanding of how trade worked by playing as Venice, or how colonization worked by playing as Portugal, or even how diplomacy and HRE worked as Austria because I just sat there for a minute on each of them and just thought that I just wanted to go warmonger and play as Ottomans, and that I did. I was not being perceptive while I play. All I can vaguely say is that the game is "improved".

And no I don't think anything is dumbed down or made easy.

 

[baffa]

I can't believe you guys, calling this game a dumbed down arcade game? EU3 is, somehow, totally hardcore with it's WORSE AI?

I really like EUIV, I find it perfectly fine with more transperancy what the hell all those numbers do. There are no worse than having a game so complex you need that excel sheet to calculate things.

 

[TheChronoMaster]

Will just keep my opinion to myself from now on looks like even the forum are overrun by mass market teens who think this game is not getting dumbed down.

Please back up your statement. As you can see, I'm no Paradox newcomer, and what you are saying is flippant at best, insulting at worst.


The game is roughly on par with EU3 in difficulty and options. The options available are different, but there's just as many at any given time.