Ever had a really BAD reputation?

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I always thought tarnished was the worst you could had, but last night I found it wasn't...

It all started as I (King of England) was doing the Reconquista (after all was by that time owner of half the Iberian Peninsula) to gain Piety and couldn't refrain my vassals stealing my newly claimed territories for my huge family (8 male offspring). So I decided to revoke all titles. After sometime I'd noticed my dukes started to declare themselves independent and my empire started to shatter.

All of a life was thrown away in minutes for the greed of a monarch. And my time as well for not having saved for 3 hours....

 

[tombom]

The worst is "We are hated throughout the entire world" I think. When I once played a game where I cheated I got there.

 

[Chaingun]

The worst is "We are hated throughout the entire world" I think. When I once played a game where I cheated I got there.

Hehe I don't think it's very common to get that far since you'll be dead if you have vassals before you reach that point.

 

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In Wednesday MP game, Sterkarm has succeeded in accumulating over 40 badboy points, which means all his vassals will lose over 40 loyalty points each month from badboy only...

Of course he has basically only human vassals there...

 

[Patricius]

I got that as the Byzantines. I started with a reasonably large demense. First I conquered one or two or the revolting vassals and made peace with the rest. Next, I took out thec remainder one by one. Given the demense bonus I had little inefficiency despite having no vassals. Oddly when I played another kingdom in that game, the ai was able to have vassals despite the appalling BB. Why was that?

 

[Swuul]

Why was that?

Money is good for many things, a steady stream of gifts is better. Like making the vassals forget they hate you

 

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AI doesn't get BB penalty to loyalty.

 

[awil]

i thik the biggest bb i remember seeing in ck was some 1200...or something like that...any vassals went from 100 to rebellion at the start of every month

 

[Barbarossa II]

i thik the biggest bb i remember seeing in ck was some 1200...or something like that...any vassals went from 100 to rebellion at the start of every month

what kingdom was that?

 

[Quift]

Hehe I don't think it's very common to get that far since you'll be dead if you have vassals before you reach that point.

I played as king of Sweden, with the addiotion of russia,bolgor, cuman, lithuania, georgia, whatever, with 56 dukes under me, who in their turn had none under them. CK 1.00 of course, and my reputatin wobbled between "we are hatet trough the entire world" and We are the scum of the earth". BUT, I still managed to keep my empire for 6 generations trough elective law, conqeuring everything myself and doing a lot af granting. It worked despite the non-gifts til I Byzanz attacked my vassal duke of crimea and I crushed the empire with my own troops, thus conquering every fucking empire privince, forcing him to recognize my claims to every single one of his titles. Then, and only then did my empire fall apart.

Of course I had numerous rebellions before, bur I could always handle them. The Secret? All my dukes were either my family (CC), or pagans! When you DOW, Crush and conquer pagan vassals, other vassals dont mind!

 

[Peter Ebbesen]

In Wednesday MP game, Sterkarm has succeeded in accumulating over 40 badboy points, which means all his vassals will lose over 40 loyalty points each month from badboy only...

Surely, at 40BB they will lose 16% loyalty per month, not 40%!?

 

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Surely, at 40BB they will lose 16% loyalty per month, not 40%!?

Well, in my experience each BB point one accumulates shows as -1 % to vassal loyalty. At least I count BB points in vassal loyalty modifier, as grabbing a title gives -0.4% loyalty modifier from reputation and taking a title by force in an offensive war gives -0.8% loyalty modifier from reputation and so on.

 

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I checked the FAQ, and didn't find any BB-table. Does such a table exist for CK? And if so, where can I find it?

 

[Peter Ebbesen]

I checked the FAQ, and didn't find any BB-table. Does such a table exist for CK? And if so, where can I find it?

Most "bad" actions cost 1 BB. Most "good" actions reduces BB by 0.5. The monthly loyalty modifier is -BB/2.5, and BB is reduced over time according to 0.1*(SQRT(max {0, piety})/(1+Difficulty)), difficulty = 0,...,4.