Events Need Changing

[Ashantai]

Well, not all of them, but any of the ones involving money.

Take "Natives Not Assisting" for instance. 25 ducats might be a lot to a OPM in 1400, but in my GB game in 1720 I earn 2700 a year in census tax!

My suggestion would be to change them so that they take 'Years of Income', 1% or so for that case, and scaling upwards. That would mean it costs say 300 ducats. Not a huge deal, but large enough to have an impact, while for a smaller nation it will be relatively small also.

 

[AndrewT]

If you put up specific proposals for specific events in the Bug Reports forum, with support, they'll be considered on their merits.

 

[Ashantai]

Sure, but I wanted some general input before I did so.

 

[Poppy Appletree]

There are several events which just shouldn't fire for certain nations or in certain cirumstances - for example, I have gotten the event about serfs moving to my capital at least three times as Cherokee, who wouldn't even have serfs to begin with. The event which tells you that monetary reforms are needed is also ridiculous, as it fires when you have no inflation at all and already have a master of the mint.

Oh, and getting that local fortifications event on provinces which don't even have forts is just plain silly.

 

[Taylor]

"national bank in trouble" is a disaster if you're small. I suggest changing that one to scale with country size too.

 

[Kapt Torbjorn]

'Monetary Reforms'

GRRRRRRRRRRRR

 

[Poppy Appletree]

I hope the OP doesn't mind if I add some questions I'd like people to answer:

* Are stability dropping events too common?
* Should a single random event ever drop your stability by more than 1 point?

 

[unmerged(204522)]

no, because since DW 5.1 there are a lot more events that raise stability. yes, because there are events that give way too much to the player, to balance things out.

 

[Simberto]

I think this is more about the annoying ones that are totally useless lateron. Like for example "Do you want 25 ducats, or 50 invested production" in 1700. Or "Wooooh 1 prestige!!!", "heres 25 ducats, click this" Which tend to pop up all the time, and it does not matter at all which choice you take. I have not problem with having good or bad events as long as they have some influence on the game. Just don't have absolutely uninteresting ones pop up all the time just to clog up your screen.

 

[DDRJake]

I think this is more about the annoying ones that are totally useless lateron. Like for example "Do you want 25 ducats, or 50 invested production" in 1700. Or "Wooooh 1 prestige!!!", "heres 25 ducats, click this" Which tend to pop up all the time, and it does not matter at all which choice you take. I have not problem with having good or bad events as long as they have some influence on the game. Just don't have absolutely uninteresting ones pop up all the time just to clog up your screen.

Problem is that a lot of the ones you're meaning are province events so the more provinces you have the more likely they are to fire. Take the "Quality wool" one for example. Might fire once in a blue moon if you have a couple wool provinces but if you've got and conquered the hoards you're going to be getting it far more often and by that point 25 ducats isn't really going to make a world of difference than it would if you are, say, Albania and only have your eastern holdings.

 

[brifbates]

There are events that do both already in the game. Personally I like it that way, sure there are times when you say "whatever" for an event but there are other times it is life-saving or crippling where if all of them were scaled that wouldn't really be the case. That 25 ducat hit is a lot more noticeable when it forces you to take the loan that breaks your economy and sends you to bankruptcy than a <1 ducat because of scaling would be...

I do agree that the one event where your options are "+1 prestige (cuz I'm an idiot)" and "ye olde truckload o cash" needs to be looked at though.

 

[Pewt]

'Monetary Reforms'

GRRRRRRRRRRRR

Monetary Reforms is an awesome event; I don't see what's to complain about. Most of the time I'm quite happy to take 2 stability for a good master of the mint.

 

[londoner247]

Monetary Reforms is an awesome event; I don't see what's to complain about. Most of the time I'm quite happy to take 2 stability for a good master of the mint.

But if you already have a level 4, 5 or 6 Master of the Mint then you don't need a new level 4 so you have a choice between inflation or a stability hit with no benefit. How does that make any sense?

 

[Pewt]

But if you already have a level 4, 5 or 6 Master of the Mint then you don't need a new level 4 so you have a choice between inflation or a stability hit with no benefit. How does that make any sense?

If I get it after I have a ton of fine arts academies it's annoying, but there's a long period where you don't have enough cultural tradition to get 3 nice advisors even with Gilded Iconography. A level 4 MotM is good enough to let me spend my cultural tradition on something else.

 

[Poppy Appletree]

If it's just for money-related events, the "support for dissidents abroad" event really needs changing - pay 50 ducats or lose 2 stability. If you're not quite big or if you're a poor country, paying 50 ducats is going to bankrupt you or cause deficits.

 

[Wallienator]

Comets when you got 0 stability D:.

 

[Dogia]

I think the event "support for dissidents abroad" should only give a -1 stability hit.

My reason, the fact that your king dieing in battle only gives a -1 stability hit shows how serious a -1 stability hit is. And i find it hard to believe that a king refusing to give money to a foriegn liberation group would cause more panic in a society than the king dieing in the middle of a war.

 

[sprites]

when you got FIVE monetary reforms across a century you grow to hate it !
either you already have a MoM , or you don't want one , or simply are too poor to use one effectively ...

after , there are some events , like agricultural revolution (in fact , there are three) , I don't see why you should get +1 base tax when you have less than 30 provinces , and +2 if you have more ... same if you pick the manpower option , you get a temporary boost (3 months!) or a permanent one

 

[thesodality]

'Monetary Reforms'

GRRRRRRRRRRRR

I think this is only only event I hate more than those f'n comets.

 

[Retrograde]

I think monetary reform should:
-Only fire if inflation is high, 5 or 10
-Give a level 5 MoM
-Reduce inflation a little.