• We have updated our Community Code of Conduct. Please read through the new rules for the forum that are an integral part of Paradox Interactive’s User Agreement.
Status
Not open for further replies.

Besuchov

Studio Manager, PDS
Paradox Staff
64 Badges
Mar 6, 2001
2.266
104
  • Sengoku
  • King Arthur II
  • Knights of Pen and Paper +1 Edition
  • Leviathan: Warships
  • Magicka
  • Majesty 2
  • Majesty 2 Collection
  • March of the Eagles
  • Naval War: Arctic Circle
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Rome Gold
  • Semper Fi
  • Impire
  • Ship Simulator Extremes
  • Sword of the Stars
  • Sword of the Stars II
  • Warlock 2: The Exiled
  • Starvoid
  • Teleglitch: Die More Edition
  • The Showdown Effect
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • Warlock: Master of the Arcane
  • Diplomacy
  • Hearts of Iron Anthology
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Cities in Motion
  • Cities in Motion 2
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • A Game of Dwarves
  • Dungeonland
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • For The Glory
  • For the Motherland
  • Gettysburg
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Heir to the Throne
A call for new voting procedures

After the latest election round it is fairly clear that the present voting rules does not really work for an RPG were people don't check in several times a day. The way it is now, only the party spokespersons can report in the party vote but they can't be here all the time. Notice for example that neither ONP or FMC voted in the election due to this.

I suggest new rules. One thought is that all members vote through their own votes(which of course could be disscussed in the party first) or that any partymember can take responsibility for a certian vote and be responsible for it being reported in.

as this is ooc....I'll put it here
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Murmurandus

Crusader for Fun and Profit
84 Badges
Apr 12, 2002
5.876
20
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Naval War: Arctic Circle
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Rome Gold
  • Semper Fi
  • Sengoku
  • Sword of the Stars
  • Victoria 2
  • 200k Club
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • March of the Eagles
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Stellaris
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Deus Vult
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Cities in Motion
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Heir to the Throne
Dear Mr. Besuchov,

Please note that the future government will do everything that's within its power to improve the election system.

Regards

OOC: I agree with you and I will start a thread on that topic as soon as I'm officially installed.
 

unmerged(3408)

Field Marshal
Apr 26, 2001
2.621
0
www.freedomhouse.org
Poor election process

Alright gents, I post here because I think we all need to talk about this subject OOC.

Something has got to be done about this voting process.

Murmurandus: congrats on winning. I am not contesting this election in anyway...

....but the FMC didn't even vote for their own candidate because of RL obligations. The PCP's spokesperson's wife got diagnosed with cancer so they didn't vote. Nearly a quarter of Fireblade's supporters never got their votes in because of procedural rules. (Even still he only lost by two votes.)

This means that you will have to form a minority government without any clear mandate an no power to pass any legislation.

It also means that at any time the opposition can call for a vote of no confidence, for no better reason then they just feel like it, and win. This is bad for gameplay.

Yes, there was more then enough time for this vote (unlike the Speaker election process which was a sham) and there certainly wasn't any hanky-panky at the polls.

But I find the way in which the political system in Eutopia is turning out to be a bit laughable.

The only reason that I am not immediately lobbying the FLL-FMC-CA to tender a vote of no confidence (which would bring down the government before it even forms--see the problem?) is because I think it would be bad for gameplay.

Nevertheless, is there anyone else who thinks that their is something seriously flawed with the election process?

Be honest please, we are OOC.
 

Blade!

20 Years on Paradox.
Moderator
59 Badges
Apr 27, 2001
4.121
2.658
45
  • Cities: Skylines - Mass Transit
  • Cities: Skylines Deluxe Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Cities: Skylines - Snowfall
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Cities: Skylines - Natural Disasters
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Surviving Mars
  • Cities: Skylines - Green Cities
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Surviving Mars: Digital Deluxe Edition
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife Pre-Order
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Surviving Mars: First Colony Edition
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
Well, Petrus, you could read the two posts above yours to answer your final question! :D

Also, at this time there are no term limits of votes of no confidence in the Constitution, somthing I recomend be put in.
 

Schlieffen

Crusty Old Medieval German Baron
107 Badges
Nov 21, 2001
451
0
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Knight (pre-order)
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Semper Fi
  • Sengoku
  • Supreme Ruler: Cold War
  • Teleglitch: Die More Edition
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Warlock: Master of the Arcane
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • March of the Eagles
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Pride of Nations
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Knights of Pen and Paper 2
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Stellaris: Nemesis
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Cities in Motion 2
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Deus Vult
  • Cities in Motion
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Lead and Gold
  • Magicka
To give you an idea of my oppinion, "something seriousaly flawed" is an understatement. Due to members that don't get on their computer every day, the PCP voted in one vote and (to my knowledge) none of the conservative parties were able to get a nominee in for either the Speaker or the Prime Minister because of internal democratic policies, politices that are required might I add. I say that we either have to skip the manditory democracy (having "non-represented" members leave if they feel wronged) or by giving much more time for nominations, vote collecting, internal party debates, etc. You will note that most parties want to stand united on an issue, resulting in the occasional disagreement that should be taken care of before the vote is officialy cast, resulting in many votes that are simply not cast in time.
 
Mar 23, 2001
638
0
Visit site
The spokesman only rule is a good one in theory. I'm sure the Spokesman wouldn't wnat to scroll thru a dozen or so Party voting threads looking for votes. That would not be feasible or reasonable even if he were willing.

In practice in a game like this it doesn't always work. Since not everyone is fortunate enough to have a job allowing them to screw around like I do or have major RL obligations interfere. While it can be argued that if they can't check in everyday or have an emergency its their tough luck, I really have to wonder about whether or not that will really promote good roleplaying and good feelings.

Unfortunately I can't think of anything that would work better, maybe a single voting thread where all MPs post their votes rather than party threads? A poll wouldn't work as I'm sure there would be double votes.
 

Josephus I

Lt. General
53 Badges
Apr 30, 2001
1.677
71
Visit site
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Field Marshal
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • 500k Club
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Europa Universalis IV: Golden Century
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Divine Wind
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Deus Vult
  • Diplomacy
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria: Revolutions
Failing that, a party can have two Spokespeople--each with the authority to post their party's votes so that if one is absent due to RL issues, the party's votes still count.
 

Murmurandus

Crusader for Fun and Profit
84 Badges
Apr 12, 2002
5.876
20
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Naval War: Arctic Circle
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Rome Gold
  • Semper Fi
  • Sengoku
  • Sword of the Stars
  • Victoria 2
  • 200k Club
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • March of the Eagles
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Stellaris
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Deus Vult
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Cities in Motion
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Heir to the Throne
Originally posted by Petrus
Agreed Blade!,

I would suggest a grand voting hall where everybody can put in their votes. So none of this buisness happens again. :s

Would that be manageble in this forum? If so, then it would look just like in RL with the lights of the seats colouring if they have voted.

Could some mod give some comments of the pros and cons, please?
 

Besuchov

Studio Manager, PDS
Paradox Staff
64 Badges
Mar 6, 2001
2.266
104
  • Sengoku
  • King Arthur II
  • Knights of Pen and Paper +1 Edition
  • Leviathan: Warships
  • Magicka
  • Majesty 2
  • Majesty 2 Collection
  • March of the Eagles
  • Naval War: Arctic Circle
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Rome Gold
  • Semper Fi
  • Impire
  • Ship Simulator Extremes
  • Sword of the Stars
  • Sword of the Stars II
  • Warlock 2: The Exiled
  • Starvoid
  • Teleglitch: Die More Edition
  • The Showdown Effect
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • Warlock: Master of the Arcane
  • Diplomacy
  • Hearts of Iron Anthology
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Cities in Motion
  • Cities in Motion 2
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • A Game of Dwarves
  • Dungeonland
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • For The Glory
  • For the Motherland
  • Gettysburg
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Heir to the Throne
Josephus suggestion is a viable one and has been put forward before.

Another thought. I know it is possible to restrict access to forums such as this but how about threads? What I'm aiming for here is the poll function. If we use this, the speaker will not have to count all the votes manually. If it is not possible to restrict access to a thread we could simply have a voting-subforum where only members of parlieament have access.
 

Blade!

20 Years on Paradox.
Moderator
59 Badges
Apr 27, 2001
4.121
2.658
45
  • Cities: Skylines - Mass Transit
  • Cities: Skylines Deluxe Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Cities: Skylines - Snowfall
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Cities: Skylines - Natural Disasters
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Surviving Mars
  • Cities: Skylines - Green Cities
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Surviving Mars: Digital Deluxe Edition
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife Pre-Order
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Surviving Mars: First Colony Edition
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
Hmmm... the reason we had Spokespers is so that there are fewer voices clamoring at the mods, and single person responsible for coordinating and communicating with the powers that be.

We cannot have any sub-forums or restricted access threads (the latter is not possible, and the former not feasable).

I am surprised that each party can't find "one" per that can handle this responsibility?
 

Josephus I

Lt. General
53 Badges
Apr 30, 2001
1.677
71
Visit site
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Field Marshal
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • 500k Club
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Europa Universalis IV: Golden Century
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Divine Wind
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Deus Vult
  • Diplomacy
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria: Revolutions
Originally posted by Blade!
Hmmm...

I am surprised that each party can't find "one" per that can handle this responsibility?

Well, Blade, that "one" person can on occasion be taken away from the game. Just as in our party, Blade, Jacob hasn't been around so we agreed that you will have spokesperson authority as well....
 

unmerged(3408)

Field Marshal
Apr 26, 2001
2.621
0
www.freedomhouse.org
No they can.

However, the problem lies when that one person has to go away on short notice and all the other members sit around waiting for the spokesperson (or even vice spokesperson) to show up.

In the case of the PM election....the FMC didn't even vote and the PCP didn't vote because their spokesperson had emergency RL commitments.

A grand voting hall as I imagine it would be thus: Each member has one post. All non voting posts will be deleted. As elections come up, members enter their votes. Old ballots (previous votes) are discounted and at the deadline the speaker adds up the total.

Otherwise.....

Am I might be mistaken, but the last time I took a poll on this forum (EU in general now) I was only allowed to vote once. Then the "voting" option disappeared and I only saw the election results.

Why don't we just hold elections as if they were polls?

Strangers to the forum would vote? It seems to me that if someone is going to take the time to vote, they will probably join a party.

Above all there must be a better way.
 

unmerged(1095)

Young Old'un
Feb 23, 2001
4.477
1
Yes - only party members to vote (I can check the lists) and all votes sent to me.
I take no active part in the RPGs here so that I can remain impartial anyway.
 

unmerged(1095)

Young Old'un
Feb 23, 2001
4.477
1
Originally posted by Wagnaard


So a poll would not be an option.

Thats up to you guys. 2 things to bear in mind though:-

1. A poll isnt entirely secret as after you have voted you can see the results so far. The results so far could then be passed to others. That is not the way that voting is, or should be, done.

2. Anybody can vote - and believe me you would get people voting who have no interest in the game at all. There are people out there who would delight in screwing the game up - believe me.

Up to you people - I am just making a suggestion as an impartial party :)
 

Dark Knight

Troll-slayer
2 Badges
Jun 8, 2000
9.512
1
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • 500k Club
I concur with those who support a move towards direct voting instead of funneling votes through party organizations.

Perhaps it would be best to simply allow people to post their votes on a single thread. This would prevent non-members of Parliament from voting and although it would require someone to count up the votes, since they would all be in one thread, this wouldn't be particularly difficult.
 

unmerged(3408)

Field Marshal
Apr 26, 2001
2.621
0
www.freedomhouse.org
Originally posted by Dark Knight
I concur with those who support a move towards direct voting instead of funneling votes through party organizations.

Perhaps it would be best to simply allow people to post their votes on a single thread. This would prevent non-members of Parliament from voting and although it would require someone to count up the votes, since they would all be in one thread, this wouldn't be particularly difficult.

UD, thanks for the good advice.

Dark Knight, I lean strongly in that direction.
 

Murmurandus

Crusader for Fun and Profit
84 Badges
Apr 12, 2002
5.876
20
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Naval War: Arctic Circle
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Rome Gold
  • Semper Fi
  • Sengoku
  • Sword of the Stars
  • Victoria 2
  • 200k Club
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • March of the Eagles
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Stellaris
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Deus Vult
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Cities in Motion
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Heir to the Throne
So one voting thread per issue and each MP can vote. Or one voting thread for everything with each MP having his 'place' on it?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.