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Why? I'll get all the information I need (and can get) anyway, all that's left is for me to write it up. I hate to break it to you, but ML really is totally superfluous to the whole thing. PJ's a pro...but he can also be petty at times. I think the true shame is the enemy *you* made. If you don't know what I'm talking about now...you'll see soon enough.

Also, I really like your style of argument. 1) Make something up. 2) Ignore all credible arguments against it. 3) Continue to repeat what you've made up as if no one else were talking. You'll go far in the GOP. :p
 

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von Streusser said:
Why? I'll get all the information I need (and can get) anyway, all that's left is for me to write it up. I hate to break it to you, but ML really is totally superfluous to the whole thing. PJ's a pro...but he can also be petty at times. I think the true shame is the enemy *you* made. If you don't know what I'm talking about now...you'll see soon enough.

Also, I really like your style of argument. 1) Make something up. 2) Ignore all credible arguments against it. 3) Continue to repeat what you've made up as if no one else were talking. You'll go far in the GOP. :p
not my fualt you want to do it the hard way :p its not like i owned a huge part of them or anything :p

oh ya about the enemy thing, they may be fewer now, but ML still has a lot of friends who retired from SAW ;)

and last count saw me with backers on my side of the paper war but non for you :p
 

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jacob-Lundgren said:
not my fualt you want to do it the hard way :p its not like i owned a huge part of them or anything :p

oh ya about the enemy thing, they may be fewer now, but ML still has a lot of friends who retired from SAW ;)

and last count saw me with backers on my side of the paper war but non for you :p

A) Not that hard. Least I don't have to chat with ML about anything this way. And it's not like you or Doc Vok have been pulling the strings in a while. That's why it's falling apart.
B) Retired? Piffle. I've got a one-up on any retirees, even SAW retirees. ;)
C) You still think it's a competition? I was never in it for that. I don't care if the whole island came out against me with the exception of one lawyer and one jury. I don't care if every paper in the land ran an editorial against the Scuttlebutt. I don't care if the President himself decided to turn my rag into toiletpaper. Oh, wait.

So far, I'm winning the only bit I gave a crap about. You can bluster till you're blue in the face, but we're playing totally different games here.
 

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von Streusser said:
A) Not that hard. Least I don't have to chat with ML about anything this way. And it's not like you or Doc Vok have been pulling the strings in a while. That's why it's falling apart.
B) Retired? Piffle. I've got a one-up on any retirees, even SAW retirees. ;)
C) You still think it's a competition? I was never in it for that. I don't care if the whole island came out against me with the exception of one lawyer and one jury. I don't care if every paper in the land ran an editorial against the Scuttlebutt. I don't care if the President himself decided to turn my rag into toiletpaper. Oh, wait.

So far, I'm winning the only bit I gave a crap about. You can bluster till you're blue in the face, but we're playing totally different games here.
yup and that one for me is based on other peoples actions, you live in a bubble ;)
 

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jacob-Lundgren said:
yup and that one for me is based on other peoples actions, you live in a bubble ;)

I could argue you live in a bubble as well. Whether bubbles are good or bad though, each may decide on their own.
 

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von Streusser said:
I could argue you live in a bubble as well. Whether bubbles are good or bad though, each may decide on their own.
you would lose that argument ;) badly :)

although i dont know what bug crawled up your butt and died that you cant let go that you did something weird and someone responded on it.
 

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TIME OUT!

JL, back to your corner.

vS, back to yours.

This little argument is spilling beyond the realms of civility and needs to stop, now. It's getting a little personal.

It kills me that we put something in the game as an event and we get more OOC debate about it then anything in game, but I appreciate that both of you actually did something about it in game with your paper.

Don't spoil your good game-karma now by getting into a pissing match over who did a better job.

Now play nice, or it's back to the "Abandoned Warehouse somewhere near New Lancaster City" for both of you! ;)
 
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heagarty said:
TIME OUT!



Now play nice, or it's back to the "Abandoned Warehouse somewhere near New Lancaster City" for both of you! ;)
i have nothing but fond memories of my card game there :p unless you talking about a different warehouse :eek: you have more then 1..... :confused: thats not the one where the camel spiders eat your toejam is it? :eek: :wacko: :eek:
 

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It is too quiet while we are waiting for the election results, despite the interview in the newspaper, and the latest episode of PJ Vasquez' serial. I should have opened a betting parlour for us to wager Ducats on the outcome, unless that is violating some rule...
 

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It is too quiet while we are waiting for the election results, despite the interview in the newspaper, and the latest episode of PJ Vasquez' serial. I should have opened a betting parlour for us to wager Ducats on the outcome, unless that is violating some rule...


No, no, perfectly legal unless the wagers affect the outcome. :)


To everyone:

I hope I'm not violating some GM/Mod secrecy pact, but just so noone gets too impatient or pesters Melancthon, we are waiting for Blade!'s return (temporary loss of internet access) to determine part of the election outcome, and the secret results will then be made public.

If you want, I suppose I can have some "ballot box irregularities" event to explain the delay. :D
 

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i have nothing but fond memories of my card game there :p unless you talking about a different warehouse :eek: you have more then 1..... :confused: thats not the one where the camel spiders eat your toejam is it? :eek: :wacko: :eek:
He means the one where YOU stole all those weapons to give to the Topans :mad: :mad:

:D :D
 

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heagarty said:
No, no, perfectly legal unless the wagers affect the outcome. :)


To everyone:

I hope I'm not violating some GM/Mod secrecy pact, but just so noone gets too impatient or pesters Melancthon, we are waiting for Blade!'s return (temporary loss of internet access) to determine part of the election outcome, and the secret results will then be made public.

If you want, I suppose I can have some "ballot box irregularities" event to explain the delay. :D

*chants* Hang-ing CHADS! Hang-ing CHADS!

:D
 

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Hajji Giray I said:
He means the one where YOU stole all those weapons to give to the Topans :mad: :mad:

:D :D
it wasnt topans it was the....wait a minute...that parts not public yet...i was never here....*runs off like flash! but not gordon, he too fast. maybe like flash john? john is a popular name here isnt it? anyways off i run*
 

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"Bartlett, Hugh. Omnipresent politician and homosexual rights activist. Bartlett was a member of many parties and a founder of several, not to mention a good friend of the Eutopian Homosexual Association (see Cook, Rebecca). He was killed in a fire at his home."-From Who's Who.

Mopnths and months of time, including ministries, and a couple of weeks in the homosexual association, yet which gets mentioned? :D

I'm back, and hope to be remembered a bit better this time :S
 

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The whole system has been overly formalised; current parties are stuck on like glue, and the informal and fun Eutopia of early E2 is gone. I hope that will change, but in the end I might not be around for long.

If you want something more ike the old Eutopia, have a go at this:

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?board=13.0

Just don't bring too many rules with you! ;)
 
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after reading the faq i just joined and have to say i feel a bit overwhelmed. have no clue where to start. could someone shortly fill me in with whats been going on in general and stuff any newbie should be aware about? kinda like the stuff you get on every mexican soap... 'previously on eutopia:'
 

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Brownbeard said:
after reading the faq i just joined and have to say i feel a bit overwhelmed. have no clue where to start. could someone shortly fill me in with whats been going on in general and stuff any newbie should be aware about? kinda like the stuff you get on every mexican soap... 'previously on eutopia:'


Sure. :) Here are some Handy Tips, first, then some summary.

1 - Read the Newslink. (It is a "Sticky" thread at the top of the Forum) It provides information about current events in Eutopia, based on some player actions and some Game Events.

2- Check out a Newspaper Thread or two. Some newspapers are partisan others are non-partisan, but may be biased. ;) Some are updated more frequently than others. But they discuss current events as retold by players.

3. Drop in at the Town Hall. It can be a little confusing with many conversations going on at once, and hasn't been active in the last few days, but this is an area of common in-game discussion and a good place to ask questions "in character".

4. Drop by a social establishement. There are bars and restaurants, but they haven't seen as much business these past two weeks as people have been campaigning instead of socializing, but this is a good place to meet people and ask questions.

5. When you feel you are ready, if you can find a party you like, join one. It's a good way to get involved in the game and a necessary step for holding office, if that's what you'd like to do.


Now then, what's been going on?

1. We are just finishing the "Senate Elections". Elections that players run in are held every three months. Somewhere in the middle we hold "Senate Elections" which don't have "real" candidates, but non-player characters made up by the GMs. These elections are just a barometer to measure player activity and give the parties a little bit more to do. Also, it means more campaigning, which can be fun, too. The campaigns are officially over and we are just waiting for the results to come in.

2. The UP (Unity Party?) is the largest party in Eutopia and is made up of many veteran players. Their characters joined together as we relaunched Eutopia to bring veteran leadership and stability to the game. It is a coalition of old and new Eutopian politicians, many of whom have (or had) different political views, but agreed to work together after all of the bad things that happened (things the Gamemasters made up to change the island a little bit) between Eutopia 2 and Eutopia 3. Other parties include the UEF which is more conservative, or center-right, the P4P, which is more liberal, or center-left, the ESA, which is to the left of the P4P, and maybe the PURE, which was to the far right, but seems inactive.

3. The government has just officially recognized the two nations to the South that broke away from Eutopia. At the end of this month there will be new embassies established with characters from these countries interacting with the Eutopians.

4. The General Assembly started a bit slow, but has passed some legislation concerning recognition of the new nations, abolishing the draft, and financial incentives for the ailing shipbuilding industry.

5. There are problems (mentioned in the Newslink) with unrest or suspicious activity in various areas of the country, and some interesting sub-plots going on, too, with lawsuits, political fueds, etc.


If it's helpful, maybe one of our players will volunteer to be "on-call" as a mentor if you have any questions about whether or not something is legal, what the background on a given person, institution, or event is, or what you can and can't do with your character,

Welcome to the game,

Heagarty
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Brownbeard said:
after reading the faq i just joined and have to say i feel a bit overwhelmed. have no clue where to start. could someone shortly fill me in with whats been going on in general and stuff any newbie should be aware about? kinda like the stuff you get on every mexican soap... 'previously on eutopia:'

All you need to remember is this:

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Got from the "Political Cartoonist Wanted" Thread in OT. Drawn by Allenby, not by Josephus I assure you.

Sorry, just had to post that.
 
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