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We need a IRS to audit all these companys.. I may have to transfer funds to the Cayman Islands though if thats done. :rofl:

Does anyone know if Russia has an Extradition Treaty with Eutopia? :D
 

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Amric said:
Well things are shaping up rather interestingly so far with the relaunch of Eutopia. Another lawyer, and news competition for the Eutopian Today, and the Gonzo now has a business empire to compete with AAH and Lundgren Corporation. Will Petrarca join in the business empire fun?
There are too many lawyers...

I was thinking of playing a scum of the earth character (a lobbyist ;)) but I'm still tossing ideas around. I'm currently considering a character who retired from decades in the service and spent his savings to get a post-grad education and win a tenure-track position, only to be ousted in the universities closure. I just have to think of what the embittered bastard's politics are. I'm casting cdat for the film version, btw. :D
 

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Petrarca said:
There are too many lawyers...

Three is too many, with one of them the Attorney General? ;)
 

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The_Hawk said:
Three is too many, with one of them the Attorney General? ;)
I meant to say businessmen. With the lawyers... there's no need for a wannabe Leon Jaworski in the mix. :p
 

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This isn't about how has more of what....:) Or how much....This is supposed to be an RPG about politics...
Indeed. Note to the wise: if this turns into a competition about who can pull bigger numbers out of a hat (both Ð 10 billion and 35 billion are a tad unrealistic already and may be adjusted downwards), anybody who feels a need to participate in said competition may quickly find that their companies have been caught up in a serious crisis, floundered and went bankrupt. ;)
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The government brings in 297 billion in revenue each year.
It doesn't. Note that the projections aren't for a year, but for the whole Term (i.e., three years). :)
 

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Melanchthon said:
Indeed. Note to the wise: if this turns into a competition about who can pull bigger numbers out of a hat (both Ð 10 billion and 35 billion are a tad unrealistic already and may be adjusted downwards), anybody who feels a need to participate in said competition may quickly find that their companies have been caught up in a serious crisis, floundered and went bankrupt.

I tried to justify my wealth in my bio thread. This might be the reason to bring back the income thread from last game.

It doesn't. Note that the projections aren't for a year, but for the whole Term (i.e., three years). :)

That makes more sense, I suppose. It did seem like a lot for what is effectively a second world country.

By the way, Estava - I like your character idea and the magazine. I'll be interested to see where it goes. Nice work.

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I tried to justify my wealth in my bio thread.
Yours looks fine. Reasonable (somewhat :p ;)), well thought out, with good explanation and justification. Just the sort of thing we like to see. :D
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This might be the reason to bring back the income thread from last game.
We'll try without one for now, but it might have to be brought back at some point. We'll see. :)
 

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Melanchthon said:
We'll try without one for now, but it might have to be brought back at some point. We'll see. :)

The issue becomes more important for people who want to have a lot of money. Money and politics are pretty intertwined in the real world, and in Eutopia. The critical issue (to my mind) is liquid versus illiquid assets. You might be worth 10 billion on paper, but how much of that can you convert to ready cash without losing a lot of market value?

For example, in the case of my character, he has about 10 million in liquid. The rest of his assets are illiquid to varying degrees. The yacht, the artwork, and the villa can be quickly converted to cash without losing too much of their market value via sale and auction. The sports teams and the building, on the other hand, cannot be quickly converted unless the pricing is at a fire-sale level. Even then, the whole value can probably not be made liquid. When you're dealing with multi-million dollar contracts, payment probably is going to occur over several years.

So I would recommend, at least, that people who want to have rich characters (say 1,000,000 plus), should take some time to determine the nature and status of their holdings.

My 2,000,000 cents worth.

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Dang, Chaz Morgan woulda loved the basic idea behind the United EUtopian Front. He'd have jumped right in ...even if or especially if it meant switching parties mid-term. :D
 

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I really have no idea how much money Vilms rakes in. He doesn't run any business, or own any corporations. All he does is editorials, and is on the board of directors for a corporation (although I didn't know it untill today!)
 

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Just to remind everyone who joined Amric's paper, you can only be editor of one paper (figured I would remind you all, I got hit by the rule last time round). So, if you want a party paper for your new party you would have to leave the Today. Although I imagine Amric would still take letters and op-eds from anyone who writes one.
 

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He's right. You can't be an editor of two papers. If you do decide to own your own paper you'd have to stop being an editor at the Eutopian Today. And he is also correct I would be willing to take op-ed pieces. Now that I have three editors alongside me, that is...more than I ever had in the E2 paper. Very exciting! But I just can't seem to wrap my fingers, let alone my tongue around Sterkam's character name!<sigh> I guess I will have to copy and paste it...:)
 

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How far participation should follow internal logics in smaller matters? Say, if I am student in Neuwestbaden, I doubt I would be regular of a cafe or a bar in some other city. So is it preferable by the majority / GMs to have players play in multitude of places regardless of internal logic or only places that seem like logical places for your character to frequent in?

I also assume that Town Hall as a sticky and all is not subject to such internal logic in having discussions.

I guess I can start a thread about a place my character would be frequenting in, but is owned by NPCs? Say if I'd like to have thread about the student cafe in ETI, I could start one, right?

EDIT: Oops, this should have gone into Helpdesk. :eek: Well, I'll ask there again if I don't receive any answers here. :D
 

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Just my .02, but it might be worth making sure that your character's name is in your sig somewhere, particularly for the new folks. It makes it a lot easier to carry on a conversation if you know who your character is trying to talk to. ;)
 

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The_Hawk said:
Just my .02, but it might be worth making sure that your character's name is in your sig somewhere, particularly for the new folks. It makes it a lot easier to carry on a conversation if you know who your character is trying to talk to. ;)

I added my char's name to my sig, because I had problems remembering it at first. :D
 

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My name's easy. Just add a 'v' to the end of my name.
 
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Hmm...i think my character could maybe a CIS agent. btw really cool to see E3 back on!
 

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Our old friend Peo has thankfully saved his Eutopia's Military organisation file on his HD. Anyone interested? Just PM me with your e-mail :)
 

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The Gonzo said:
My name's easy. Just add a 'v' to the end of my name.

Yeah... I was thinking specifically of Sterkarm's Recynzski (I think?) when I wrote that. ;)
 
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